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Post by Max on Apr 15, 2015 7:01:46 GMT
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Post by sapientcoffee on Apr 15, 2015 7:03:39 GMT
Page with most panels with embarrassed Annie?
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Post by Chancellor on Apr 15, 2015 7:05:27 GMT
Page with most panels with embarrassed Annie? The embarrassedest face! Man, I hope Kat gets Annie snapped out of this meek funk. At this point she may be the only one who can.
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Post by ninjaraven on Apr 15, 2015 7:06:26 GMT
Oh, Annie... this friendship thing is really tearing you apart, isn't it?
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Post by Sky Schemer on Apr 15, 2015 7:08:11 GMT
Kat really is pretty awesome, isn't she?
C'mon, Kat, ask the obvious question: if the Court knew, why didn't they do anything?
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Post by Kriselia on Apr 15, 2015 7:08:29 GMT
Kat's a good friend. You hold on to this one or so help me Annie!
And I'm so relieved this was a cuter page after the emotional wringer this chapter's been so far. Also I'll never get used to Annie's new "look", just makes me go ech every time. Hope it get's somehow miraculously reversed.
This "I didn't want you to think I'm stupid" thing seems in line with how I was reading Annie as something of a perfectionist, she's only very rarely admitted weakness to anyone.
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Post by madragoran on Apr 15, 2015 7:16:18 GMT
Kat you're so awesome! I get what Annie is saying though. I've been guilty of this (not the cheating). It is very difficult to ask for help when you think people only like you if you are perfect. That you need to be perfect to be likable. It's a lot of work to grow out of this. A strong support network is important. Also silly people as friends helps too.
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Post by aline on Apr 15, 2015 7:21:41 GMT
Well, Annie is proud to a fault, always pretending that everything is bloody fine and I don't need your help, thank you very much. And being best friends with someone who is quite possibly a genius only makes it worse, by contrast ("It's all so easy for her and I don't even understand the question!"). So yeah, I think it's a logical explanation for the cheating thing. Now if she can look beyond her shame of being found out, maybe she'll start thinking about some of the strange stuff about her dad, and we can go back to our mystery solving. Come on Kat, we're counting on you!
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 15, 2015 7:32:54 GMT
This is so damn sweet and heartbreaking. I'm really loving Kat here. She's just such a really good friend, and this makes for a really damning contrast to Tony's behavior toward Antimony.
I'm still chafing at the bit to see how Kat reacts once Annie tells her about the forest and Reynardine. If she thought she was upset before...
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Post by eskhn on Apr 15, 2015 7:37:47 GMT
Cmon Kat, fix everything! (No pressure.)
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Post by matoyak on Apr 15, 2015 7:44:28 GMT
Man, I hope Kat gets Annie snapped out of this meek funk. At this point she may be the only one who can.My bet is Zimmy. With a side-bet on Ysengrin.
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Post by samm on Apr 15, 2015 7:57:04 GMT
Man, I hope Kat gets Annie snapped out of this meek funk. At this point she may be the only one who can.My bet is Zimmy. With a side-bet on Ysengrin. How about Red. She would sympathise with hair related disasters. That is not entirely a joke. I wonder if the students of the Foley house might have a role to play in Annie's recovery of some degree of confidence. She has made a promise to that rabbit-boy that Anthony might not be receptive to her fulfilling.
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 15, 2015 8:01:50 GMT
My bet is Zimmy. With a side-bet on Ysengrin. How about Red. She would sympathise with hair related disasters. That is not entirely a joke. I wonder if the students of the Foley house might have a role to play in Annie's recovery of some degree of confidence. She has made a promise to that rabbit-boy that Anthony might not be receptive to her fulfilling. Oh yes! I'd forgotten about that, that's true! If she stops going to the forest she can't reunite the rabbit-boy and his fairy friend, can she?
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Post by aline on Apr 15, 2015 8:11:01 GMT
If she stops going to the forest she can't reunite the rabbit-boy and his fairy friend, can she? That could turn out to become a stage where Annie stops going to the forest because tree climbing is fun, and starts going there because she understands that she has a capital role to play, and no one else can do it. A step towards an Annie who is aware of her responsibilities towards both the Court and the Forest. Anyway, Gillitie Wood is so central to the plot that I don't see Anthony's interdiction to hold for longer than a few chapters at most.
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Post by matoyak on Apr 15, 2015 8:13:53 GMT
How about Red. She would sympathise with hair related disasters. That is not entirely a joke. I wonder if the students of the Foley house might have a role to play in Annie's recovery of some degree of confidence. She has made a promise to that rabbit-boy that Anthony might not be receptive to her fulfilling. Oh yes! I'd forgotten about that, that's true! If she stops going to the forest she can't reunite the rabbit-boy and his fairy friend, can she? That's true... My feeling is that the Foley students might have influence in Annie recovering, but that Zimmy is the most likely to be the initial instigator to pop her out of the funk. She's the exact level of abrasive Annie seems to need, and she has history with Annie and Anthony. Zimmy has, from the beginning of the comic, been a kind of catalyst for Annie, and they deal with each others' mental issues when necessary... so there's precedence for it.
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Post by keef on Apr 15, 2015 8:22:16 GMT
Anyway, Gillitie Wood is so central to the plot that I don't see Anthony's interdiction to hold for longer than a few chapters at most. So we'll see Coyote and Ysengrin again in 2016?
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 15, 2015 8:25:49 GMT
So much humanity on this page, feels so bitter-sweet. And they're both acting so much like you'd expect real people that cared would act. Annie's reasoning especially; so many people struggle with asking for help out of pride, fear, embarrassment etc etc, even from those that'd give it unconditionally without a judging thought in there mind*.
And Kat: you are awesome. That is all. I knew she wouldn't be mad - she has her priorities right.
Also I must say - Kat's saying/asking things that, oh, a parent really should have been saying as well (if in a different way).
*Makes me wonder if Anthony was the sort of parent one could ask for help from, and gotten it unconditionally and without judgement.
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Post by aline on Apr 15, 2015 8:29:30 GMT
Anyway, Gillitie Wood is so central to the plot that I don't see Anthony's interdiction to hold for longer than a few chapters at most. So we'll see Coyote and Ysengrin again in 2016? It's hardly rare to have 2-3 chapters in a row not being about the forest. But no, I strongly believe we'll see them sooner than that. I doubt very much the loss of their medium, honorary citizen, and friend is going to happen without them paying a visit to discuss the matter.
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 15, 2015 8:32:31 GMT
If she stops going to the forest she can't reunite the rabbit-boy and his fairy friend, can she? That could turn out to become a stage where Annie stops going to the forest because tree climbing is fun, and starts going there because she understands that she has a capital role to play, and no one else can do it. A step towards an Annie who is aware of her responsibilities towards both the Court and the Forest. Anyway, Gillitie Wood is so central to the plot that I don't see Anthony's interdiction to hold for longer than a few chapters at most. I think the optimal situation would be going because she understand the importance of her role, and also because tree climbing is fun. No reason one can only exist without the other, providing one's priorities are correct.
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 15, 2015 8:36:12 GMT
My bet is Zimmy. With a side-bet on Ysengrin. How about Red. She would sympathise with hair related disasters. That is not entirely a joke. I wonder if the students of the Foley house might have a role to play in Annie's recovery of some degree of confidence. She has made a promise to that rabbit-boy that Anthony might not be receptive to her fulfilling. Cue an Annie inspired montage of Kat bringing in all their friends to try and break Annie out of her funk. "Annie! Robot has gone mad! I fear he may have a virus! I've trapped him with my magnets, but I need your help. Perhaps you need to... mediate... his etherics? Magic? Do some magicing?" Anyway, Gillitie Wood is so central to the plot that I don't see Anthony's interdiction to hold for longer than a few chapters at most. So we'll see Coyote and Ysengrin again in 2016? If Annie's truly starting on a hiatus from the forest I suspect Coyote or Ysengrin (or both) will make an appearance in the not too distant future, just to express their thoughts on Anthony Carver grounding their medium indefinitely. Of course Annie wouldn't be allowed to go to such a meeting, I imagine, so it might be told in flashback by Smitty if it happens.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Apr 15, 2015 8:55:11 GMT
Speaking of Smitty, do you think he could save the day? He could probably solve the forest problem simply by being present at such a meeting. Probably the only person in the multiverse that can make politics go smoothly. Granted, we don't know what his power considers "unorderly"...
Though, I think its more likely Annie will have a slightly more direct effect in solving it herself, to open the opportunity for character growth. With help from Kat, naturally.
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Post by rafk on Apr 15, 2015 9:10:46 GMT
They say the darkest hour is right before the dawn. And in the hour of greatest slaughter the great avenger is being born.
- Paul Kelly, "Bradman"
With this moment, incidentally, Kat has become the most awesome character in GC and the gold benchmark in all of webcomics for what true friendship is.
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Post by karl on Apr 15, 2015 9:14:50 GMT
So, I wonder, if how Antimony is right now is how Antimony is without her "mask"? An old and comfortable dress, confidence in shambles, her "image" broken. Also, Kat is like the best friend ever, she is actually approaching the problem very well, emotionless emotional father should take notes.
Regarding the question of why the Court didn't bring up Antimonys cheating, I'm thinking that it may have been because they do not care. They are not a traditional educational institution where giving the students an education is the priority. The Court seems to be interested only in fostering the talents of the students. It seems the Courts official modus operandi is to turn a blind eye to problems unless someone screws up in a big way (they know, but do not act - collecting blackmail information maybe?). Other principles the Court adheres to, both also tie in to "turn a blind eye" - "sink or swim" and "you're on your own". I noted that the 14 year old students were on the reality-warping cruise ship alone without any teachers or other staff. Not really the best place to send a kid whose mother just died and she watched without being able to do anything since they lack the usual support facilities present in most educational institutions.
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Post by infrared on Apr 15, 2015 9:30:19 GMT
Kat should be Annie's dad
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Post by quark on Apr 15, 2015 9:46:35 GMT
So much humanity on this page, feels so bitter-sweet. And they're both acting so much like you'd expect real people that cared would act. Annie's reasoning especially; so many people struggle with asking for help out of pride, fear, embarrassment etc etc, even from those that'd give it unconditionally without a judging thought in there mind*. And Kat: you are awesome. That is all. I knew she wouldn't be mad - she has her priorities right. Also I must say - Kat's saying/asking things that, oh, a parent really should have been saying as well (if in a different way). *Makes me wonder if Anthony was the sort of parent one could ask for help from, and gotten it unconditionally and without judgement. Yep, that's exactly what I thought too. Anthony's first thought was of punishment (he didn't even want to know why she cheated!), Kat went right at the heart of the issue, and is immediately looking for a solution. (Well, after freaking out for a second, but she's human after all)
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 15, 2015 9:50:16 GMT
I vote for Kat to be Annie's new dad. [edit] Kat should be Annie's dad Damn it, I need to check these threads more closely before posting! Uh...seconded.
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Post by Xan on Apr 15, 2015 10:02:09 GMT
And now, having been told that Kat can help with "anything", Annie asks to help with breaking the news to Rey.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 15, 2015 10:02:28 GMT
"I'd help you with anything!"
"... then help me kill my father."
Of course Annie is too submissive right now to even think that and asking that is really out of the question. So Kat will have to give Annie the help she needs instead of the help she asks for.
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Post by Kitty Hamilton on Apr 15, 2015 10:14:56 GMT
See, this is why I don't buy the idea that Anthony's actions were commendable because he was coming down hard on Annie's cheating.
You know what often makes kids afraid to ask admit to a weakness and ask for help? Judgmental, perfectionist parents. Ironically, Anthony's solution is what caused the problem in the first place. You can bet that if Annie went to Anthony for help with school she'd be ridiculed for it, the same way he ridiculed her makeup and job as forest medium. Better to cheat and hide it. Wouldn't want Kat to leave like her father did.
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 15, 2015 10:18:11 GMT
Given Anthony's reaction to Antimony's cheating (and just to her make up and going to the forest) it makes sense she would be afraid to ask for help, if he was like that before, at the hospital. If every time she needs or asks for help she get's that kind of reaction, then no wonder she thought it was better to hide her weaknesses instead of address them. It would be less painful for her, anyway.
Ah, Kitty Hamilton, great minds think alike.
I'm also, strangely enough, seeing parallels between the robots and Diego and Annie and her dad. Anybody else?
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