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Post by matoyak on Apr 8, 2015 8:02:33 GMT
I guess the question is - will Antimony be there? She wears a mask, and hides a lot of stuff - she'd be feeling terrible, plus guilty, ashamed, embarrassed... if it was me, as someone who has a bit of anxiety thing and also wears a mask - I'd probably have spent the hours since last seeing Kat stewing & letting it grow out of control in my head to the point where I would have googled "joining The French Foreign Legion" by now. I could understand if Antimony tries avoiding Kat. Yeah, I'd hazard to guess Annie won't be making it easy for Kat to find her, for a variety of reasons. He's a pigeon, she's formerly part-elemental and all emotional wreck! It's everyone's favorite Sunday Sitcom Duo: Antimony and City Face! I'd watch it. As would I. Predictive Dr. Disaster simulation preparing everyone for Anthony's eventual return. I think this is the most likely explanation. For all the things. "Hope you're taking notes, Annie. Boy am I glad we took care of that silly cheating thing over the summer and redid all your classwork. Really seems like it'd bite you hard later on."
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 8:02:34 GMT
Dang, those are some ugly boxes. Ominous looking plastic bag, as well. (I just love Tom's little comments.) OK, Kat. Quick like a bunny, talk to your parents. Find out what they know. One somewhat reassuring aspect of this is that apparently Mr. Carver is done passing sentence. Also, it's clear the Court is backing him on this; they have to be the ones responsible for packing her stuff while she was in class. Actually, it was probably robots that moved things. Kat should talk to her robots to find out where Annie went. And where oh where is Reynard's plushy? Out of all of this, I am truly concerned for Reynard's safety at the hands of Anthony. Once again, page 1495, Anthony tells Kat that Annie won't be joining her for the rest of the day's classes. He needed her to do all of the packing herself, just to twist the knife. Then again it could be a double edged sword of mercy/knife twisting. If Antimony got to go and pack her boxes it means she'll have had some alone time for cathartic things like crying and punching a pillow while imaging herself as Zimmy punching her father. And maybe got to talk to Rey. Then again all that time alone doing something as depressing as packing while dwelling on what'd happened... that'd hurt. Plus it'd mean she'll have missed the whole first day of classes*, meaning she gets to go and stand out even more to the year 9s when she does begin. *Even more reason Anthony should have done this before classes started. You're concerned about your kid's studies? Probably not the best strategy to make them miss class time, and ensure they get less than a day to recover from the emotional turmoil they'd been put through before having to go play catch up.
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Post by matoyak on Apr 8, 2015 8:06:20 GMT
Antimony got to go and pack her boxes it means she'll have had some alone time for cathartic things like cyring and punching a pillow while imaging herself as Zimmy punching her father. I don't think Annie is capable of imagining herself doing that. Not to Anthony.
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 8:06:23 GMT
I think it looks like she's seeking out Annie, probably for a combination of comforting her/wanting her to stand up to her dad. I guess the question is - will Antimony be there? She wears a mask, and hides a lot of stuff - she'd be feeling terrible, plus guilty, ashamed, embarrassed... if it was me, as someone who has a bit of anxiety thing and also wears a mask - I'd probably have spent the hours since last seeing Kat stewing & letting it grow out of control in my head to the point where I would have googled "joining The French Foreign Legion" by now. I could understand if Antimony tries avoiding Kat. It's weird at this point to think I was ever worried Kat would turn on Annie when she overheard about the cheating. I mean, they'll probably discuss it at some point, but not until Antimony is safe and in a stable emotional state, because Kat is Really An Extremely Good Friend Who I Am Sorry For Doubting. But yeah, Annie is NOT in a good place right now and from what we can tell seems to feel like she deserves all she's getting*. I don't think Kat standing up for her about living arrangements after hearing about the cheating thing is enough for Annie to understand the reality of the situation for Kat. That is, I don't think she could possibly realize that Kat's first and biggest priority is making sure Annie is OK, because Annie doesn't really realize how very not OK what is happening to her right now is. So yeah, I agree she's probably feeling all guilty and possibly avoiding Kat because she's afraid of Kat's anger, because she doesn't realize how very different (and in Annie's favor) the situation and priorities involved appear to Kat. *when I say "all she's getting" I include the way Anthony is treating her, the manner in which he's speaking to her, etc, not just her punishment for cheating itself. I'm not sure I expressed that well... did that make sense? EDIT: Attempt to express it better. May or may not have helped. You expressed it well, and I understand, and I agree. *nods*
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Post by anisky on Apr 8, 2015 8:10:21 GMT
Then again all that time alone doing something as depressing as packing while dwelling on what'd happened... that'd hurt. Plus it'd mean she'll have missed the whole first day of classes*, meaning she gets to go and stand out even more to the year 8s when she does begin. People keep saying this and I am confused? I thought she was repeating Year 9?
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Post by aline on Apr 8, 2015 8:10:28 GMT
Hm, Annie also has a blinker stone and one of Egg's signal sticks. I hope those are still in her possession. Breaking the signal stick and leaving Tony and Jim to discuss good old times might actually be a nice diversion tactic
There is also the matter of Coyote's tooth. It should be somewhere with the rest of her stuff, and since only very few people know what it is, she should be able to keep it.
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 8, 2015 8:11:14 GMT
Something to think about: Annie keeps Rey in her room. Her room is all boxed up and he's (so far) no where to be seen.
Is anybody else suspicious that Annie never went back to her apartment and someone or something (robots maybe) was packing up her stuff and taking the plush away before Annie was even told about moving out or said 'okay' to Anthony taking possession of Renard?
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 8:11:21 GMT
Antimony got to go and pack her boxes it means she'll have had some alone time for cathartic things like cyring and punching a pillow while imaging herself as Zimmy punching her father. I don't think Annie is capable of imagining herself doing that. Not to Anthony. Yes, I admit that's probably wishful thinking on my part. It would be healthy for her though. I have to say, though, I'd rather pack my own stuff than let the robots do it. Still, the robots likely transported it. Kat should still make inquiries to determine Annie's new living quarters. There is no need for you to concern yourself with her whereabouts, Ms. Donlan. Probably a packing crate beside the cafeteria dumpster. Wouldn't want her to get all uppity. At least there will be plenty of snacks close to hand, and she can adopt a rat as a new pet. No, wait! A pigeon! Antimony and City Face, together at last! He's a pigeon, she's formerly part-elemental and all emotional wreck! It's everyone's favorite Sunday Sitcom Duo: Antimony and City Face! I wish I had the musical aptitude to express the theme song I'm imaging for this. Also - I'd watch it.
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Post by anisky on Apr 8, 2015 8:14:36 GMT
Something to think about: Annie keeps Rey in her room. Her room is all boxed up and he's (so far) no where to be seen. Is anybody else suspicious that Annie never went back to her apartment and someone or something (robots maybe) was packing up her stuff and taking the plush away before Annie was even told about moving out or said 'okay' to Anthony taking possession of Renard? Rey stopped living in her room a day or two ago.EDIT: Actually, wait, no, I think he stopped living in her room at the beginning of Year 9 at Lindsey's request. I will try to dig up the appropriate comic. EDIT 2: Rey stopped living in Annie's room sometime in the middle of Year 9. He's currently with Clangler and Joey, as the original link in this post will confirm.
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 8:14:36 GMT
Then again all that time alone doing something as depressing as packing while dwelling on what'd happened... that'd hurt. Plus it'd mean she'll have missed the whole first day of classes*, meaning she gets to go and stand out even more to the year 8s when she does begin. People keep saying this and I am confused? I thought she was repeating Year 9? Oops! I rather think my touch typing failed me.
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Post by anisky on Apr 8, 2015 8:15:52 GMT
People keep saying this and I am confused? I thought she was repeating Year 9? Oops! I rather think my touch typing failed me. Ah! Okay. People kept saying it on the last thread too, which is why I was wondering if I was missing something.
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Post by rafk on Apr 8, 2015 8:24:42 GMT
Until coming to the forum I assumed Kat ran straight back home from the previous scene, in which case calling for Annie seemed odd (and the boxes being packed seemed like Anthony set it up while they were in class). There's nothing to say that isn't what happened I suppose, especially since Kat was enraged - did she do all classes then charge her anger again and run home?
I don't often criticise Tom's storytelling but it's a bit ambiguous here and the pace didn't need to be slowed down even more while we dwell on the ugly situation for weeks and weeks of audience time (always a tricky issue for a webcomic author to manage, admittedly).
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Post by anisky on Apr 8, 2015 8:30:15 GMT
Until coming to the forum I assumed Kat ran straight back home from the previous scene, in which case calling for Annie seemed odd (and the boxes being packed seemed like Anthony set it up while they were in class). There's nothing to say that isn't what happened I suppose, especially since Kat was enraged - did she do all classes then charge her anger again and run home? I don't often criticise Tom's storytelling but it's a bit ambiguous here and the pace didn't need to be slowed down even more while we dwell on the ugly situation for weeks and weeks of audience time (always a tricky issue for a webcomic author to manage, admittedly). I agree the timing is somewhat ambiguous, but if it is the end of the day (or lunchtime as someone suggested above) I doubt very much Kat needed to "charge her anger again". I think it's more than likely that she stewed in her anger as she sat in class and if anything it would have grown as she waited impatiently to be able to do anything about it. Remember, Kat already HATED Anthony before any of this.
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Post by aline on Apr 8, 2015 8:31:41 GMT
Until coming to the forum I assumed Kat ran straight back home from the previous scene, in which case calling for Annie seemed odd (and the boxes being packed seemed like Anthony set it up while they were in class). There's nothing to say that isn't what happened I suppose, especially since Kat was enraged - did she do all classes then charge her anger again and run home? Well, she had to go to the next class, but she would have been boiling to get away and go to her friend.
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 8:32:14 GMT
Oops! I rather think my touch typing failed me. Ah! Okay. People kept saying it on the last thread too, which is why I was wondering if I was missing something. No, you're right. She started well into year 7 (bunk dorms), then it was the wooden tower dorms in year 8, then the aquatic dorms of year 9, before the year 10 Friends dorms. It's possible year 7 & 8 might be getting merged in some minds, since it was shorter (making it seem like Antimony had only been present for two school years, instead of 3).
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Post by rafk on Apr 8, 2015 9:03:53 GMT
Until coming to the forum I assumed Kat ran straight back home from the previous scene, in which case calling for Annie seemed odd (and the boxes being packed seemed like Anthony set it up while they were in class). There's nothing to say that isn't what happened I suppose, especially since Kat was enraged - did she do all classes then charge her anger again and run home? I don't often criticise Tom's storytelling but it's a bit ambiguous here and the pace didn't need to be slowed down even more while we dwell on the ugly situation for weeks and weeks of audience time (always a tricky issue for a webcomic author to manage, admittedly). I agree the timing is somewhat ambiguous, but if it is the end of the day (or lunchtime as someone suggested above) I doubt very much Kat needed to "charge her anger again". I think it's more than likely that she stewed in her anger as she sat in class and if anything it would have grown as she waited impatiently to be able to do anything about it. Remember, Kat already HATED Anthony before any of this. Because she is clearly SO angry I don't find it believable that she would sit in class all day before doing something about the Annie situation. She's not beyond breaking the rules for fun and curiosity let alone when her friend is in trouble. That's partly why I assumed she ran straight to the dorm when I read the strip (but then it doesn't make sense she called for Annie who wouldn't get there before Kat in this scenario). Thus a storytelling mistake one way or another.
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Post by chrisjenl on Apr 8, 2015 9:06:36 GMT
I put me money on that it's a test for the robots and to see how they act after Kate get really upset.
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Post by aline on Apr 8, 2015 9:25:26 GMT
Because she is clearly SO angry I don't find it believable that she would sit in class all day before doing something about the Annie situation. She's not beyond breaking the rules for fun and curiosity let alone when her friend is in trouble. That's partly why I assumed she ran straight to the dorm when I read the strip (but then it doesn't make sense she called for Annie who wouldn't get there before Kat in this scenario). Thus a storytelling mistake one way or another. The only way to help with the situation would be to get support from another adult and you don't get that by starting to ditch classes. She didn't think Annie would be packing (she was obviously surprised) and possibly gone.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 8, 2015 11:20:50 GMT
Dang, those are some ugly boxes. Ominous looking plastic bag, as well. (I just love Tom's little comments.) OK, Kat. Quick like a bunny, talk to your parents. Find out what they know. One somewhat reassuring aspect of this is that apparently Mr. Carver is done passing sentence. Also, it's clear the Court is backing him on this; they have to be the ones responsible for packing her stuff while she was in class. Actually, it was probably robots that moved things. Kat should talk to her robots to find out where Annie went. And where oh where is Reynard's plushy? Out of all of this, I am truly concerned for Reynard's safety at the hands of Anthony. Anthony may have sent Antimony to pack during one of her extra study periods but yeah, could well be robots. And if they're not too sure about the limits of Renard's possession abilities then the trash bag may contain (among other things) all of the girls' action figures, plushies, stuffed animals, and anything else they think he might possess that he's spent time with... All rendered eyeless? Or headless and dismembered, just in case someone might draw eyes on again, maybe even. For the girls' own safety, of course. But don't worry about Renard's safety. The Court wouldn't let Anthony kill Renard, at least not without an excuse. Anthony will just put him somewhere he can't get out of.
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Post by arzeik on Apr 8, 2015 11:42:27 GMT
Because she is clearly SO angry I don't find it believable that she would sit in class all day before doing something about the Annie situation. She's not beyond breaking the rules for fun and curiosity let alone when her friend is in trouble. That's partly why I assumed she ran straight to the dorm when I read the strip (but then it doesn't make sense she called for Annie who wouldn't get there before Kat in this scenario). Thus a storytelling mistake one way or another. The only way to help with the situation would be to get support from another adult and you don't get that by starting to ditch classes. She didn't think Annie would be packing (she was obviously surprised) and possibly gone. Yeah, that's right. Maybe she told herself she would wait until the end of the day to talk with Annie and then find a solution for the problem of repeating a year, for that was the big matter when she left the conversation; apart from Anthony treating her daughter like rubbish and all, right, but if she (or Renard, or Eglamore, or Donny, for that matter) had confronted Mr. Carver, would it have really been of help to Annie, or would she have taken her father's side? I think she couldn't be helped, as she was sorry, afraid, ashamed of herself, and unwilling to notice he didn't really have the right to come out of the blue and turn her life upside down just because he "is" her father and he thinks it will be the "best" for her. Of course Kat hates the man. But she does because she cares for her friend. If Annie had asked her for help to deal with her father, she would have probably had no problem to lead a robot army to burn his house down (optionally with lemons). But Annie hadn't. Sometimes you chose to wait because it loks like the best option, even if you don't like it. Now and then, you find yourself mistaken.
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Post by todd on Apr 8, 2015 12:47:16 GMT
But don't worry about Renard's safety. The Court wouldn't let Anthony kill Renard, at least not without an excuse. Anthony will just put him somewhere he can't get out of. Of course, the reason why the Court kept Renard alive during his imprisonment was because he was possessing members of the Court (first Daniel, then Sivo) at the time; they mentioned (in Chapter Seven, I recall) that they were researching ways of expelling Reynardine from Sivo's body without killing Sivo in the process. But now that he's possessing a plush toy that wasn't alive before....
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Post by pxc on Apr 8, 2015 13:27:37 GMT
I concur with those of you who are glad not to have to see Anthony for a while. Mind you, if Tom is reading this, it doesn't mean I hate his writing or whatever. It's amazing how much he's managed to make us hate a character. I don't think there was this much hatred way back when with Diego, who arguably did something much worse. But this is Annie we're talking about. I suppose the hatred for Anthony is a measure of how much we care about Annie. The monstrous thing is, Anthony is not acting out of malice but out of deep, if misguided, love and concern.Man, following a webcomic is awesome sometimes. I feel like those neighbors who would discuss the soap operas among themselves with total seriousness. Also when I saw Kat running, I thought she was running to get her parents to help! My heart sunk when I realized it was after classes and too late. I agree the guy is monstrous but don't agree that love has much to do with it. Not love for Annie anyway.
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Post by hypixion on Apr 8, 2015 13:33:30 GMT
Will Renard still be there? I can't believe she would just give him up just like that.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 8, 2015 13:36:18 GMT
No no no no ;_; I don't think Annie went to the rest of her classes. Anthony tells Kat just as much before she leaves them. Presumably they've been packing Annie's things during the rest of the schoolday. Oh Looooord, I'm just waiting for Kat to come face to face with an utterly broken Annie. Or a Stepford Wife's smile. If Annie's in there, my bets on that.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 8, 2015 13:51:45 GMT
Hm, Annie also has a blinker stone and one of Egg's signal sticks. I hope those are still in her possession. Breaking the signal stick and leaving Tony and Jim to discuss good old times might actually be a nice diversion tactic
There is also the matter of Coyote's tooth. It should be somewhere with the rest of her stuff, and since only very few people know what it is, she should be able to keep it.
Actually, I've been thinking about this since Monday. Could Tony know about the tooth somehow? Coyote said his tooth could cut the very earth, and we all assumed it might mean Jones. If Tony heard about it, he might think one element is as good as another. Could the tooth be used to cut Annie's fire-element cleanly off? Clean enough not to hurt her? If it can cut a shadow off the ground...
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Post by Sky Schemer on Apr 8, 2015 14:07:58 GMT
It was Kat's dream all along! You know, bizarrely, something about this page made me wonder for a moment if the whole thing was Kat's dream. And I never subscribed to the dream theory! I don't think it IS Kat's dream, and I have absolutely no idea why I had that thought when I saw this page, but it is weird that now people are joking about it. It would be sorta hilarious, though, wouldn't it? Kat is probably aware that Annie has been cheating off her for ages and has just been ignoring it or letting it slide. Now comes this nightmare of what could happen if someone finds out, so Kat finally gets the courage to tell Annie to stop. Or! It's Paz's dream! She's concerned about Kat, who told Paz about Annie copying her work. Or it's Rey's dream! This cheating could lead to him getting sent into the clutches of the court, after a few years of (relative) freedom! Or it's the dormitory's dream! The dorms are really a sophisticated AI, see, and...
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Post by unrequited on Apr 8, 2015 14:12:29 GMT
I'm waiting for the inevitable Boxbot edit. If it hasn't been made already.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Apr 8, 2015 14:15:19 GMT
Because she is clearly SO angry I don't find it believable that she would sit in class all day before doing something about the Annie situation. She's not beyond breaking the rules for fun and curiosity let alone when her friend is in trouble. That's partly why I assumed she ran straight to the dorm when I read the strip (but then it doesn't make sense she called for Annie who wouldn't get there before Kat in this scenario). Thus a storytelling mistake one way or another. Whoa. Calling it a storytelling mistake is a pretty serious accusation when there is a completely logical explanation for what's going on. Kat was shoo'd away by Anthony before she could overhear that Annie was also being ejected from the Year 10 dorms. She is coming home expecting Annie to be there, and is suddenly learning that she's not. Permanently.
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Post by arf on Apr 8, 2015 14:15:20 GMT
What's in the box? What's in the box?!! What's in the f... Annie's makeup supplies. She won't be needing them where she's going. Kat's anguished protestations are because she well remembers what happened the last time she was left with this stuff.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Apr 8, 2015 14:15:41 GMT
I'm waiting for the inevitable Boxbot edit. If it hasn't been made already. It's Boxbot's dream! That's why it's so terrible.
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