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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 16, 2015 13:39:56 GMT
I'm really hoping Anthony receives a Jimmy-Jims Eglamore suckered punch. I still think there's something else going on besides Anthony being a dick...
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 16, 2015 13:39:54 GMT
I was actually so busy bubbling in my little cauldron of odium that it never considered how Rey will react.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Mar 16, 2015 13:44:47 GMT
And theeeere Mr. Carver crosses the line of 'incredibly socially awkward', right into the territory of 'asshole'. Look, everyone, I know Antimony's dad hasn't really given off the best impression so far, but maybe we should at least give the guy half a chance? This is literally the first time we've seen him in person, ever. And while I admit what he's supposedly done has not been endearing, I know there are some people out there who just aren't good at dealing with kids, even their own kids. I've met a few of them. They may be smart, well-adjusted, reasonable, even friendly people, but for whatever reason, they just don't seem to have good instincts for handling interactions with little mini-me's. So I guess what I'm saying is, can we get through maybe at least part of the chapter before dragging out the torches and pitchforks?
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Post by philman on Mar 16, 2015 13:46:32 GMT
Nothing I hate more than people harping on about their stupid useless feelings. Bet you're fun at parties.
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Post by calpal on Mar 16, 2015 13:59:39 GMT
OH HO HO HO HO HO!!
I've always imagined that Mr. Carver would be stand-offish to his own daughter, but MAN! To see this comic today, I'm almost feeling conflicted. On the one hand, I think to myself 'yes, I called it! I could see this coming! This makes me so happy to know I was right'. The other part of me thinks 'WOW, MR. CARVER. FRACKING WOW.'
Also, anyone else feel incredibly uncomfortable looking at his face in the second-last panel? I mean, holy crap, those shadow lines... they almost look vicious.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 16, 2015 14:15:05 GMT
So Tony is going to be the teacher that everybody is to scared to talk back to, even if they hate him? Good luck, kids! Back in 'Microsat 5' Donny had implied that past-Tony's personality was drastically different from current-Tony's. I had always wondered about that since we never got a real glimpse of current-Tony, and past-Tony was already socially awkward enough to explain his bad dad behaviour in the present. Now I begin to see what Donny meant, this man is ice cold, with no hint of awkwardness. I wonder what happened to him in the past. Was there more than his wife slowly dying in front of him? For me, Anthony's story has always been the most intriguing plot line in the comic. I'm gonna love this chapter, no matter the douchebag levels! This. I know that many think, that there's a hidden plot-based agenda, but Tony having terrible guilt/anger over his wife's death is a good story. As well as, a dysfunctional estranged father fumbling while interacting with an abandoned daughter. Oh course, that's assuming he loved Surma. We saw hints before, but Annie may not be the most trustful narrator, when it comes to her father. I'm looking forward story of Surma and Tony. All that being said, Tony has used codes before, and a syllabus of his own design could be a hidden novel to his daughter. The bathroom could be nothing more than red herring. Also, what if Kat starts to speak up for Annie, only to have the new teacher praise Kat's work? They may have a lot in common. He may be able to help her. What if Tony and Kat get along very well, while he and Annie get along terribly?
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Post by pigeon on Mar 16, 2015 14:17:21 GMT
If Tony is upset with Annie for "killing his wife," that is completely uncalled for. Antimony had no choice in that particular event of being born. That was between Surma and Tony. If anything, Tony should blame himself for his wife's death rather than Annie. After all, everyone knew what would happen if Surma had a child ( especially her father).
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Post by sleepcircle on Mar 16, 2015 14:19:02 GMT
Okay, I was a major proponent of NOT seeing Anthony as a jerk, and looking at the reasons for why he is the way he is, but dude. DUDE. That's just being a jerk. You know, I'm still not sold. Yes, he is being quite harsh there, but the only thing I really have an issue with is his use of the word "ridiculous". That's just not a nice thing to say even though if you look at it objectively, he's totally right. I mean seriously? Purple eyeshadow and green lipstick? I know it's a Antimony-trademark by now but I bet just about everyone here was thinking the same when they first saw it: That's some seriously weird makeup!
That said, there may be another reason behind this. With the makeup Annie may just look too much like her mother, which Anothony may just not be able to handle yet. That's purely speculative, of course, but I still mostly see him as a tortured soul that's desperately trying to come to terms with the death of his loved one. I would just like to mention that it's not green--it's gold. I think your monitor's colour is a bit off.
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Post by basser on Mar 16, 2015 14:19:21 GMT
Nothing I hate more than people harping on about their stupid useless feelings. Bet you're fun at parties. If the kind of parties you think are fun involve a bunch of people whining about how sad or offended they are then no, I'd expect not.
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Post by rainofsteel on Mar 16, 2015 14:20:46 GMT
Mr. Carver is well on the way to establishing himself as a major villain.
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Post by calpal on Mar 16, 2015 14:29:09 GMT
Mr. Carver is well on the way to establishing himself as a major villain. Major villain? Not likely; that title goes to either the Court or Coyote. Mr. Carver would be a more potent henchman, if anything (comparable to Ysengrine, but with less gardening powers and more social bite).
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 16, 2015 14:33:02 GMT
Sidenote reaction: Well done Tom. I'm almost certain your intention was to get a rise out of the fans, and you've certainly done so. Now I'm interested to see where he takes this. You're talking about it like this requires an intention. am I forgetting a chapter? He's hardly been in it at all, has he? And what we've seen of him has been filtered through the lens of other people- You are forgetting the Chapter 22, which was a "direct" flashback. Presumably. But the most telling about the character was Donald's flashback Chapter 37, what's with being the only part where he actually said something meaningful. Everything else we know about the little alien with round head (formerly) and almond eyes fits right in that. Prediction: Anthony has only just gotten started (being a jerk). He'll use his parental authority to... - Not allow Annie to go into or have any contact with the Forest - Confiscate her blinker stone (although I don't she'll need that crutch anymore) - Make her move to a room of her own / isolate her from Kat and the other students I see why the first two attempts would be hilarious, but how the third one would end up as a pratfall? Annie would make a habit of hanging out with Foley kids out-of-body all her free time?
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Post by eightyfour on Mar 16, 2015 15:01:41 GMT
Purple eyeshadow and green lipstick? I would just like to mention that it's not green--it's gold. I think your monitor's colour is a bit off. No, it's not gold. Well okay, it's not really green either, I give you that. Technically, it's closest to dark khaki. For comparison, this is taken directly from the comic:
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:07:28 GMT
Anthony doesn't like Annie. Not proven!!! I bet they'll be a note in there or something for her! The Court is huge, there lots of ways to get a message to Annie without the court knowing. Especially for Anthony who is a master at hiding himself and his doings. The 'note in the bathroom' is the slightly less dangerous than telling the message right in the classroom after class has ended.[/quote] True, but there may be some other way she is getting a message by leaving the room. By the way, banning make up in a class room for teenagers seems like a bit arbitrary and likely to get the teacher in trouble and potentially fired unless there's a good reason for it.
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:08:14 GMT
Seems like Tony has been learning the ancient art of superdickery. superdickery is one of the best websites. At least amongst the few that I know.
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:08:45 GMT
You just have to admire my art of triple-posting! Just like this, like it was nothing!
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:09:40 GMT
I would just like to mention that it's not green--it's gold. I think your monitor's colour is a bit off. No, it's not gold. Well okay, it's not really green either, I give you that. Technically, it's closest to dark khaki. For comparison, this is taken directly from the comic: That is definitely neither green nor gold but if I had to choose between the two, it would definitely be - a blue dress!Edit: oh my goodness, somebody's gonna kill me for the quadruple post, better leave when I still have my head on my shoulders.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 16, 2015 15:15:55 GMT
Mr. Carver would be a more potent henchman, if anything (comparable to Ysengrine, but with less gardening powers and more social bite). Less gardening powers that we know of. Shortly after saying, "I have matters to attend to", two Glass Eyed Men-controlled tree dogs broke into the Court. Then, they proceeded to try to break right back out. It's probably just a big coincidence... probably.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 16, 2015 15:19:03 GMT
You just have to admire my art of triple-posting! Just like this, like it was nothing! You mean quadruple posting, like a boss. I imagine, this thread is going to be a very large one, so it may be required to it a point across.
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Post by Vilthuril on Mar 16, 2015 15:22:43 GMT
I'm really hoping Anthony receives a Jimmy-Jims Eglamore suckered punch. I still think there's something else going on besides Anthony being a dick... You beat me to suggesting that it's not Kat but Eglamore who is more likely to take out Tony. Of course, either Reynardine or my hero Ysengrin would probably do it too, given the chance.
Anyway, whether it's really him and he's a jerk(*), or him and he's really not a jerk, or a Monster Clone From The Twelfth Dimension(tm), we're just gonna have to wait until the other shoe drops.
(*This is supposed to be a class of - what? - 10th graders, so I think she wouldn't be the only one with makeup on, hey? Indeed, Tony is looking pretty grim....)
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Post by fish on Mar 16, 2015 15:25:58 GMT
And theeeere Mr. Carver crosses the line of 'incredibly socially awkward', right into the territory of 'asshole'. Look, everyone, I know Antimony's dad hasn't really given off the best impression so far, but maybe we should at least give the guy half a chance? This is literally the first time we've seen him in person, ever. And while I admit what he's supposedly done has not been endearing, I know there are some people out there who just aren't good at dealing with kids, even their own kids. I've met a few of them. They may be smart, well-adjusted, reasonable, even friendly people, but for whatever reason, they just don't seem to have good instincts for handling interactions with little mini-me's. So I guess what I'm saying is, can we get through maybe at least part of the chapter before dragging out the torches and pitchforks?I remember the last time I was thinking the forum was jumping to fast to some weird conclusions... Oh wait, that was on the last update. And the update before that. And basically every update ever, hahaha! I'm also often part of the conclusion-jumping, it's just the way of this forum, I guess... BUT, thinking "Anthony is a jerk" is authorial intent in this case. I, too, wanted to strangle this man, not just after this page, on Friday as well! Even though I'm actually on the "Tony is NOT evil" train. Possible scenarios for the next page (aka things that most likely won't happen): - Annie leaves for the bathroom and we see her struggling to fight back tears.
She is emotionally confused because, on the one hand her father is finally back (!), on the other hand he just shamed her in front of the whole class (!).
- Annie leaves for the bathroom but we stay in the classroom and will finally see Kat's reaction to all this, be it an angry outburst or just a fuming, angry stare.
Annie comes back without makeup and with an emotionless face like she had in the first chapters of the comic. Kat is super worried at her friend relapse.
- Annie leaves for the bathroom, accompanied by Margo and other girls wearing makeup, who either try to comfort Annie or riddle her with questions about her father.
(This one is unlikely though, he adressed Annie alone with his cosmetics-remark)
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:28:36 GMT
Annie leaves for the bathroom, accompanied by Margo and other girls wearing makeup, who either try to comfort Annie or riddle her with questions about her father. (This one is unlikely though, he adressed Annie alone with his cosmetics-remark) And this* was either a real coup of superdickery or then suggests there is some other real coup that we are not yet aware of. There is the possibility that he has to show up as a dick. There is. Right there, look! Don't you see it? I do. *addressing only Antimony when other girls are wearing make up too.
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Post by amantis on Mar 16, 2015 15:28:46 GMT
Um...theoretically...just for the sake of argument. Could the students at this point, with all of their various special abilities, actually take out Anthony?
Could Kat rally every robot in the court against him? Could Annie burn him to a little pile of ashes? Could Parley tele-frag him with her sword skills? Could Janet snipe him from a rooftop? Could Zimmy warp reality and destroy the whole universe? Would Paz ask a Rhino politely to impale him against a wall? And then would Smitty just stand there and make sure everything came together in their favor by existing?
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:30:11 GMT
Um...theoretically...just for the sake of argument. Could the students at this point, with all of their various special abilities, actually take out Anthony? Could Kat rally every robot in the court against him? Could Annie burn him to a little pile of ashes? Could Parley tele-frag him with her sword skills? Could Janet snipe him from a rooftop? Could Zimmy warp reality and destroy the whole universe? Would Paz ask a Rhino politely to impale him against a wall? And then would Smitty just stand there and make sure everything came together in their favor by existing? And could Anthony just laser them from outer space like an ace?
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Post by Phoenix on Mar 16, 2015 15:41:43 GMT
- Annie leaves for the bathroom and we see her struggling to fight back tears.
She is emotionally confused because, on the one hand her father is finally back (!), on the other hand he just shamed her in front of the whole class (!).
- Annie leaves for the bathroom but we stay in the classroom and will finally see Kat's reaction to all this, be it an angry outburst or just a fuming, angry stare.
Annie comes back without makeup and with an emotionless face like she had in the first chapters of the comic. Kat is super worried at her friend relapse.
- Annie leaves for the bathroom, accompanied by Margo and other girls wearing makeup, who either try to comfort Annie or riddle her with questions about her father.
(This one is unlikely though, he adressed Annie alone with his cosmetics-remark)
That third option would be a very sweet way of Margo and the others showing their support for Annie, if they take the opportunity to go with her despite not being directly addressed.
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Post by cu on Mar 16, 2015 15:46:18 GMT
Possible scenarios for the next page (aka things that most likely won't happen): - Annie leaves for the bathroom and we see her struggling to fight back tears.
She is emotionally confused because, on the one hand her father is finally back (!), on the other hand he just shamed her in front of the whole class (!).
She turns the rest room lights on and a crowd led by Jones wearing a party hat yells "Happy birthday, Annie!" Coyote starts the party dance. In the background we see Tony Toms, who has followed Antimony and is now grinning like a loon and making the fish gills gesture. This forum melts.
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 15:52:27 GMT
Possible scenarios for the next page (aka things that most likely won't happen): - Annie leaves for the bathroom and we see her struggling to fight back tears.
She is emotionally confused because, on the one hand her father is finally back (!), on the other hand he just shamed her in front of the whole class (!).
She turns the rest room lights on and a crowd led by Jones wearing a party hat yells "Happy birthday, Annie!" Coyote starts the party dance. In the background we see Tony Toms, who has followed Antimony and is now grinning like a loon and making the fish gills gesture. This forum melts. Grinning like this, you mean? By the way, I like that idea. If Tony really turns out to be the duke of the douchebags, it's going to break my heart.
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Post by fish on Mar 16, 2015 16:00:23 GMT
Oh man, things have been going so good for Annie and her friends in Volume 5. She settled in as the Forest medium, Pazkat happened, Mort's story was super sad but ultimately optimistic. Now, I think, comes the downward slope of the emotional rollercoaster that is Gunnerkrigg Court. So many heavy things to be addressad: Annie and Tony's relationship, Tony's past with Surma, Tony and Eglamore's conflict, Annies homework problems (I'm not looking forward to this particular plotpoint), there's still some more Jeanne-plot we have to get through. Aaaah, my head is full of GC-thoughts again! That hasn't happened in a while. Give me the drama, draaamaaaa!
On that note: I wonder what Mr. No-Nonsense McScience is going to say once he finds out his daughter is medium to the forest. I feel like he's going to ask her to stop, or rather command her. And since she's basically conditioned to reply to his every request with "Yes, father" and no back talk, she's going to have a hard time with that. WELL, Mr. No-Nonsense McScience! If you didn't want your daughter to make her own decisions, you shouldn't have left her on her own for over two years!
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Post by elcheeso on Mar 16, 2015 16:01:18 GMT
Ugh, I had to sign up because this is bothering me so much, and I don't know if I'm just going crazy or what, but everything about this guy's design is screaming at me that it's not Anthony... but I also realise it's pretty unlikely that Annie would recognise him as her father if he wasn't and the story doesn't seem to be going in that direction, but ugh. His eyes have changed shape, the guy has grown a square chin out of nowhere, his nose ridge is considerably more noticable and his nose is less round... I'd mention him looking haggard as hell/the scar and all that, but that might make sense given his absence/research over the years. Ugh. THIS GUY.
I can see him acting this way, though. He's acting like a colossal douchecanoe right now, and his singling Annie out despite the other girls (probably) wearing makeup might have something to do with the fact it's the same stuff Surma used to wear. Still can't get over how he looks though, am I the only one getting skeeved out by how little he looks like flashback Anthony?
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 16, 2015 16:04:56 GMT
I wonder what Mr. No-Nonsense McScience is going to say once he finds out his daughter is medium to the forest. Let alone that she's mediocre* in science. *at best, that is.
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