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Post by Per on May 4, 2019 21:41:02 GMT
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Post by bedinsis on May 4, 2019 21:44:25 GMT
Oh. I thought it was a bit odd. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 6, 2019 3:26:51 GMT
Cool thing I never noticed on reread: pink guy's version of Annie has gills (top appearance) and webbed fingers (bottom appearance)!! Cool thing I only noticed now that I'm looking more closely: pink guy's version of Annie has a question mark on her ear. Maybe pink guy doesn't understand what those things sticking out of her head are for, since he doesn't have any? Also, I remember finding the place of meeting between the mediums to be disturbing because the trees were growing in perfect rows and columns; if it was based on a man made park hen that appearance makes perfect sense. ... Speculation, now that you mention it: Those trees were planted in rows back when the Court and Forest still did things together. They're a remnant of bygone days, like the ruins where Ysengrin's Army lives. |
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Post by dramastix on May 6, 2019 5:16:55 GMT
Cool thing I never noticed on reread: pink guy's version of Annie has gills (top appearance) and webbed fingers (bottom appearance)!! Cool thing I only noticed now that I'm looking more closely: pink guy's version of Annie has a question mark on her ear. Maybe pink guy doesn't understand what those things sticking out of her head are for, since he doesn't have any? I always just took those to be stylized ears rather than question marks, since he's perfectly content to modify other parts of her body to his own image. The elbow of the ? could be a tragus. I hadn't noticed the gills, though! |
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Post by Runningflame on May 6, 2019 22:09:56 GMT
Cool thing I never noticed on reread: pink guy's version of Annie has gills (top appearance) and webbed fingers (bottom appearance)!! Cool thing I only noticed now that I'm looking more closely: pink guy's version of Annie has a question mark on her ear. Maybe pink guy doesn't understand what those things sticking out of her head are for, since he doesn't have any? I always just took those to be stylized ears rather than question marks, since he's perfectly content to modify other parts of her body to his own image. The elbow of the ? could be a tragus. I hadn't noticed the gills, though! In favor of the question mark theory, note that it's always in the same orientation, no matter which ear we're looking at (see left and right ears on this page). |
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Post by MarineMonarch on May 12, 2019 17:26:43 GMT
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Post by dramastix on May 13, 2019 0:34:02 GMT
And it's great. I hope he starts including more comments about how the readers responded to this or that; I found that entertaining. And I'm looking forward to hearing more about the robot religion as we get deeper into that plotline (you know, after a slight side road about Annie's dad). Also I totally didn't notice the shadow-man in the treatise last time around; did that come up in the forums? Ditto the roots in the Court.
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Post by fanofts on May 13, 2019 6:51:14 GMT
And it's great. I hope he starts including more comments about how the readers responded to this or that; I found that entertaining. And I'm looking forward to hearing more about the robot religion as we get deeper into that plotline (you know, after a slight side road about Annie's dad). Also I totally didn't notice the shadow-man in the treatise last time around; did that come up in the forums? Ditto the roots in the Court.
In that 2014 forum thread most readers guessed the shadow man was Robot S13 (with a messiah complex?), but also that him and the onlooking robots also look like a graveyard.
And Daedelus wrote "Vines are encroaching on the stone wall - more interference from the Forest?".
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Post by Druplesnubb on May 13, 2019 11:29:58 GMT
If you read the thread you linked most people seem to correctly identify him as Anthony.
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Post by bedinsis on May 13, 2019 17:19:13 GMT
I never noticed the looming shadow of a man in the treatise.
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Post by mturtle7 on May 13, 2019 18:55:01 GMT
This might be one of the most interesting retrospectives we've had yet! Where do I even start...
Ok, so first of all, as someone who has lived on a houseboat in the past, I really sympathize with Tom's love of boat scenes and small cabins! I never noticed just how nautical everyone's clothes actually were, though...the tiny anchor on the front of Antimony's dress was particularly clever, since it's easy to mistake for her usual alchemy necklace.
Also nice to have it confirmed that Jack and Jenny were literally designed to look like a scruffy douchebag and a try-hard goth girl, respectively. Validating all my biases, there.
ALL THE MIND/BODY/LOVE THEMES. ALL OF THEM. IT KEEPS HAPPENING.
That "splash" panel (heh) with Paz and Lindey really is gorgeous, and I love hearing about some of the process and meaning behind it.
And finally, I love how insistent Magnolia is that Diego's whale-bot golem be a thing. Her drawing is majestic as hell.
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Post by Runningflame on May 13, 2019 21:17:27 GMT
And finally, I love how insistent Magnolia is that Diego's whale-bot golem be a thing. Her drawing is majestic as hell. Where can I see this drawing? |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 13, 2019 23:28:47 GMT
And finally, I love how insistent Magnolia is that Diego's whale-bot golem be a thing. Her drawing is majestic as hell. Where can I see this drawing? The drawing flashes up during the retrospective at 9:38. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 14, 2019 7:34:24 GMT
Hahaha! Clearly I wasn't watching the video very closely. Thanks. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 14, 2019 11:11:57 GMT
Hm. I hoped Magnolia would ask some of the questions I had about this chapter. (For example: Why did we never see any reaction from the Court? Why did Lindsey think it was a good idea smashing the ship's ceiling, letting giant glass shards rain down on the students below?) ...Sadly, she did not.
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Post by dramastix on May 19, 2019 19:28:35 GMT
And here's Chapter 50: TotemHe's really cranking them out, isn't he? Cookies to anyone and everyone who has ever commented on the possible significance of Kat never having met Coyote; Tom explicitly states here that that was intentional. And I hadn't thought about the green background meaning that it was an intermediate space between Court and Forest.
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Post by Druplesnubb on May 19, 2019 19:50:36 GMT
Not so much that it was intentional as that there was no feasible way of making it happen. This retrospective also confirms that the Cardiffian is indeed human.
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Post by Per on May 20, 2019 0:17:57 GMT
Not so much that it was intentional as that there was no feasible way of making it happen. I thought I heard Tom say it was intentional, though. This retrospective also confirms that the Cardiffian is indeed human. And not officially gendered. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 20, 2019 0:19:39 GMT
He's really cranking them out, isn't he? Magnolia's positive influence!
Hopefully she will help us all get through Anthony's return and the de-Annie-ing of Annie.
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Post by pyradonis on May 23, 2019 11:15:09 GMT
Not so much that it was intentional as that there was no feasible way of making it happen. This retrospective also confirms that the Cardiffian is indeed human. She could have seen Coyote when he turned to giant size and pushed over one of the Court's little buildings. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on May 24, 2019 10:29:21 GMT
1: That happened much later.
2: That still wouldn't mean Coyote saw kat.
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Post by pyradonis on May 24, 2019 13:16:21 GMT
1: That happened much later. 2: That still wouldn't mean Coyote saw kat. You are right of course, that happened later. I forgot.
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Post by mturtle7 on May 24, 2019 17:50:18 GMT
I just can't get over the fact that Tom had apparently been planning this one obnoxious Friends reference for YEARS (and Magnolia always assumed he was joking). It's good to have these kind of priorities when you're planning out a long-running story.
Also, I just realized the retrospectives have now officially caught up with the point when I first started reading this comic. I think I finished reading the archives right about when they met the lady person from Cardiff (thanks for pointing out the gender thing Per). From this point on, I'm actually going to have been there in the forums whenever Tom talks about reader reactions to these pages. This feels weird, somehow.
Which reminds me, gosh, the retrospective for The Tree is coming up. The Tree, a.k.a. The Tony Bomb which I believe blew up the forums more than any chapter since Catalyst (a.k.a The Happening). That one should be...interesting.
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Post by Runningflame on May 25, 2019 21:48:03 GMT
And here it is: Chapter 51, The Tree. Initial thoughts: - I never noticed that Annie's short hair and plain blue outfit (and lack of makeup) were throwbacks to her younger, hospital self! I always just saw Kat's perspective, that long hair was how Annie was "supposed" to be (and of course Ysengrin's perspective from a couple chapters later, after it becomes apparent that the haircut has also affected Annie's fire). Seeing it as a reversion to her childhood look adds a whole new dimension--makes her seem more vulnerable, less connected to the Court and the Forest, but more connected to her father. (Maybe as an attempt to please him? Yikes.)
- My main question that still wasn't answered: What does the chapter title mean? (All I can think of is the saying, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree," but that feels like a stretch.)
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Post by DonDueed on May 25, 2019 22:05:47 GMT
Man, I'd forgotten just how much I hated Tony when I read this chapter. He's just over-the-top cruel to Annie.
Regarding the chapter title, I always assumed it was referring to "an apple for the teacher", though it's not clear that has any relevance either. Nor, come to think of it, would Eve's apple of temptation, or "the apple of his eye"... wow, there sure are a lot of apple metaphors!
Edited to add: Hmm... how about this: the apple (Annie's sweet life at Court and Forest) suddenly has a worm in it (Tony)?
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Post by Per on May 26, 2019 15:01:27 GMT
All I can think of is the saying, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree," but that feels like a stretch. I think that is quite obviously the meaning. (And the forum being the forum, it was of course pointed out in the thread for the title page that this could mean Anthony returning, it was pointed out immediately when Annie cut her hair that this was the hospital look, etc.) |
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Post by bedinsis on Jun 2, 2019 21:36:22 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 3, 2019 9:49:22 GMT
Now I feel easily manipulated.
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jun 3, 2019 10:03:24 GMT
Of note is that Tom Implies Annie was the one who put all her stuff as far from the exit as possible, not Tony.
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Post by bedinsis on Jun 9, 2019 17:18:10 GMT
New retrospective is up: Chapter 53: Annie and the fire. I never realized that Tony was also going on autopilot when interacting with Annie in the chapter The Tree. |
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