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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Oct 28, 2014 0:26:55 GMT
So the Jeanne's lover was not named Spinach. Maybe he was Beanhead and Jeanne was Spinach?
Personally I think it is just a personal reference of Tom's, but I might as well keep the fan speculation about Jeanne and her lover gasping for air.
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Post by freeman on Oct 28, 2014 0:34:31 GMT
So the Jeanne's lover was not named Spinach. Maybe he was Beanhead and Jeanne was Spinach? Personally I think it is just a personal reference of Tom's, but I might as well keep the fan speculation about Jeanne and her lover gasping for air. I was about to speculate that they would be some surprise players from "The Ties" generation, like the two who wanted to have their photo taken for example, but then I figured that this sort of thing would have probably earned slightly more foreshadowing. Not just Tom's style, more likely as you said: probably just a personal reference, maybe even Tom & Tea-san as depicted in universe. |
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Post by Rasselas on Oct 29, 2014 5:15:18 GMT
Spinach and Beanhead sound like names fairies might get or give each other.
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Post by todd on Oct 31, 2014 22:49:58 GMT
And now the video on Chapter Fourteen is up - much talk about the fluidity of Coyote's design in contrast to that of the Court.
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 2, 2014 1:37:22 GMT
Hm, I always thought it pronounced "Ahn-jah."
Though I guess it makes sense when you think about it, Js are different in spanish..
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Post by todd on Nov 6, 2014 23:37:23 GMT
The video on Chapter Fifteen's now up; Tom reveals a few more real-life inspirations for various sections of the Court.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 7, 2014 1:05:29 GMT
At the beginning of the Chapter 15 retrospective, Tom says that the video will be Mexican themed. And then the video proceeds like the previous retrospectives. Wha?
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Post by Rasselas on Nov 8, 2014 1:51:12 GMT
I noticed that too. Maybe he changed his mind halfway through, or perhaps there's a joke in there that I've missed.
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Post by legion on Nov 8, 2014 16:20:08 GMT
Either a reference to the Mexican day of the dead that maybe was when he recorded this, or a call back to the fact that there used to be a joke at the beginning of this chapter ("Red Returns") which was an under-comic comment by Tom saying something like "Watch out for the monster trucks and electric guitar solo in this chapter", which he later removed because people missed the joke and were complaining that none of these things were in the chapter.
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Post by goldenknots on Nov 8, 2014 18:29:09 GMT
Either a reference to the Mexican day of the dead that maybe was when he recorded this, or a call back to the fact that there used to be a joke at the beginning of this chapter ("Red Returns") which was an under-comic comment by Tom saying something like "Watch out for the monster trucks and electric guitar solo in this chapter", which he later removed because people missed the joke and were complaining that none of these things were in the chapter. You missed those? :) |
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Post by todd on Nov 8, 2014 23:05:35 GMT
Either a reference to the Mexican day of the dead that maybe was when he recorded this, or a call back to the fact that there used to be a joke at the beginning of this chapter ("Red Returns") which was an under-comic comment by Tom saying something like "Watch out for the monster trucks and electric guitar solo in this chapter", which he later removed because people missed the joke and were complaining that none of these things were in the chapter. Actually, he said it at the end of Chapter Thirteen about what the contents of Chapter Fourteen would be - and then regretted it when people paid far more attention (or claimed to) to the absence of monster trucks and electric guitars in "The Fangs of Summertime" than all the important things (the Forest's embassy to the Court, the full introduction of Ysengrin, the introduction of Coyote, Jones, Parley and Smith, etc.) actually taking place in the chapter. |
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Post by fish on Nov 12, 2014 19:48:45 GMT
New video is up! S+B strikes again! Also: some points about comics as a medium and the use of accents in dialogue. We are getting close to the juicier chapters.  |
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Post by todd on Nov 12, 2014 23:35:30 GMT
I liked the bit about Moddey Dhoo being the original of the Hound of the Baskervilles (pity Tom had to cut that part out). Incidentally, Matilda (the guide who looks like an old woman) is also - like Moddey and his fellow "black dogs" - an actual figure of British legend (some stories make her the ghost of a noblewoman who cared too much about hunting and so was condemned to hunt eternally after her death).
Ironic that, in spite of Tom's preferring dogs way over cats, he's given a variant of a feline name to one of his most popular characters. (Maybe he simply thought of it as a diminutive of "Katharine" - though her alarm in Chapter Five still sounds like a cat meowing, as I recall.)
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 13, 2014 2:17:13 GMT
In the Chapter 16 retrospective, I assume that "Humperdump Crump" is Tom's play on his own title "Gunnerkrigg Court". Anyone having a more informed explaination?
I really appreciate Tom explaining what he thinks works in a comic and what he thinks doesn't work, at least for him. It is almost like he is on a panel answering questions from aspiring writers and artists.
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Post by fish on Nov 13, 2014 8:50:47 GMT
In the Chapter 16 retrospective, I assume that "Humperdump Crump" is Tom's play on his own title "Gunnerkrigg Court". Anyone having a more informed explaination? Wow, seeing it written out like that makes it even funnier, haha. But I also assumed it was just a play on the title. It seems Tom doesn't like to ramble or repeat himself too much, so he changes up some things once in a while? (I'm still confused about the Mexican style review from last time though) |
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Post by legion on Nov 13, 2014 9:36:35 GMT
When there was that little animation, all I could think was "Hello I'm Tom Siddell and this is the Muppet Show yaaaaaaay!"
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 13, 2014 12:10:51 GMT
In the Chapter 16 retrospective, I assume that "Humperdump Crump" is Tom's play on his own title "Gunnerkrigg Court". Anyone having a more informed explaination? Wow, seeing it written out like that makes it even funnier, haha. But I also assumed it was just a play on the title. It seems Tom doesn't like to ramble or repeat himself too much, so he changes up some things once in a while? (I'm still confused about the Mexican style review from last time though) In this (Chapter 16) retrospective, Tom gives his opinion of dialects and phonetic spelling in comics (don't unless it is necessary for the storyline). Now I wonder if the Chapter 15 Mexican style review was just like a normal review because the Mexican style would be normal from the perspective of someone from Mexico. |
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Post by lit on Nov 13, 2014 15:59:41 GMT
I'm happy he didn't use those moving teeth in this one because those kind of creep me out.
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Post by todd on Nov 13, 2014 23:25:15 GMT
One thing that strikes me is how much of Tom's commentaries are about the art rather than the story. It makes sense, of course; comics are a visual medium, for one thing. And focusing on the non-story aspects means less danger of inadvertently giving spoilers. But it still seems a bit strange to me - maybe because my own fiction is straight prose, not "comics/graphic novel" format (I'm not a good enough drawer for that), so there's just story to think about.
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Post by fish on Nov 29, 2014 18:41:52 GMT
Retrospective for "The Medium Beginning" is up! Damn, I never noticed the guy who created the "Psychic Challenge" that Parley's dad had passed, was the same guy who investigated the Rogat Orjac: Eugene Gould
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 29, 2014 19:04:26 GMT
And another "Spinach & Beanhead" that I never caught.
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Post by keef on Nov 29, 2014 21:17:07 GMT
Again nothing about the story itself. Like this often debated little riddle:  Anyway the explanation about the art is interesting. And yes I missed that S&B too, so that's our homework for the next episodes. (I don't think there is one in S1) |
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Post by todd on Nov 29, 2014 23:35:42 GMT
I suspect that Tom avoids commenting on the story to make certain he doesn't give anything away from as-yet-unreleased chapters. (I recall his also mentioning that some of the controversy over Alistair's fate in Chapter Thirteen discouraged him from such commentaries, and that he decided that he should let the story speak for itself.)
The part that most got my attention was his remark that Jones has "an enormous amount of backstory" - that's certainly correct, given that she was around when the Earth was still a newly-formed lump of molten mass that hadn't cooled down enough yet to support regular life.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 7, 2014 22:06:14 GMT
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Post by keef on Dec 7, 2014 23:47:12 GMT
Please correct my transcription, as I am deaf and not a native English speaker.
I thought this was the most interesting part, plus the "mind is a plaything of the body" also relating to Robot's experience in S1's body.
Shame this chapter has no bonus page.
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Post by philman on Dec 8, 2014 13:21:39 GMT
I think the mexican themed bit was just a joke, see who was paying attention... A bit like Humperdump Crump, jsut changing up the otherwise saying the exact same thing at the start of each video!
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Post by fish on Dec 8, 2014 16:03:45 GMT
I remember, back when I first read this chapter, the moment when Kat and Annie both decide to go down the stairs without any qualms, I was really taken by surprise. I honestly expected one of them to implore caution or something. Yep, that trope has been around for a looong time.
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Post by Rasselas on Dec 9, 2014 18:27:49 GMT
I noticed it too, but it was more of a pleasant discovery. I remember thinking, "That's right, if I was there you couldn't stop me from plunging right in." If anyone tried to be all hesitant and cautious, I'd probably think they're the biggest square.
Then again, I did spend a night lost on an island, sleeping among the sheep and goats. These things happen when you dive headfirst into things!
In any case, I was glad that our dear characters share the spirit of adventure.
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Post by todd on Dec 9, 2014 23:05:01 GMT
Of course, some of the consequences of Annie and Kat investigating the various odd goings-on and hidden places at the Court suggest that the "I don't think that's such a good idea" approach does have some merit.
(Though there'd be a lot less story in that case.)
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Post by fish on Dec 11, 2014 0:59:20 GMT
I noticed it too, but it was more of a pleasant discovery. I remember thinking, "That's right, if I was there you couldn't stop me from plunging right in." If anyone tried to be all hesitant and cautious, I'd probably think they're the biggest square. Then again, I did spend a night lost on an island, sleeping among the sheep and goats. These things happen when you dive headfirst into things! In any case, I was glad that our dear characters share the spirit of adventure. Hah! I'd be a total square, then! I tend to discuss all possible outcomes of a future action (with other people or just with myself) before I dive headfirst into anything! Going down some unknown stairs into inky blackness would not be my first instinct, hahaha. (I'm not the adventuring kind) Your "sleeping with sheep and goats, lost on an island" story sounds awesome though! The lives of cautious and non-adventurous people tend to be rather boring. Which is why, I agree, it's great Kat and Annie are not cut from the same cloth as I am! |
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