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Post by Daedalus on Aug 6, 2014 19:54:56 GMT
Cutting the Gordian knot. I approve. Though I like the Mexican pronunciation better than the Spainish* one, personally. The 'th' sound that shows up all the time in Castelian spanish sounds odd to me. *yes, Spainish is a word now. |
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Post by fanofts on Aug 6, 2014 20:50:22 GMT
But if you listen, the 'o' in 'cot'...nowait, I have the cot-caught merger and I don't know which version of 'cot' they're using. Dagnabit. But still, that 'o' has an 'a' sound. Well colour me surprised, indeed it sounds as if non British people (excepting Bostonians) pronounce that with an "a" sound! Check the sound files on this page: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cotThe Australian version is closest to how I pronounce cot Compare cat: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cat |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Aug 6, 2014 21:10:22 GMT
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Post by philman on Aug 10, 2014 13:43:48 GMT
And another confirmation that those paintings won't be making a reappearence!
Also WHAT IS THIIII... I had never noticed robot's other arm there before, heh. And also the fact that the changing of stories over time had come into the comic much earlier than I remembered.
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Post by todd on Aug 10, 2014 22:12:47 GMT
Tom also states that Kat's a sort of "joint-protagonist" with Annie rather than a mere supporting character - something that's become clearer as the comic proceeded. In the early chapters, Kat did seem more just like a close friend but not as prominent as Annie (especially since she doesn't get introduced until Chapter Two, has only a small role in Chapter Three and is off-stage in Chapter Four - though Annie and Kat standing together in the Treatises - including the first one - were a clue to that), but now she seems at times to be almost eclipsing Annie as the main character. I wonder how much of that Tom had foreseen when he was writing Chapter Two.
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Post by gary on Aug 12, 2014 19:47:51 GMT
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Post by sapientcoffee on Aug 12, 2014 20:54:32 GMT
"Her name is Becky, Becky Ground. I don't know who this jerk is though."
Haha. The asides are fun.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Aug 12, 2014 21:22:14 GMT
'this jerk' kind of looks like Aly
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Post by Lightice on Aug 12, 2014 21:48:31 GMT
'this jerk' kind of looks like Aly Yeah, but that's the girls' dorm, so no guys allowed. I love these retrospectives, but I wish Tom had a better mike. I have sometimes hard time hearing what he's saying without straining my ears or putting the volume far too loud. |
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Post by todd on Aug 12, 2014 22:39:58 GMT
That in Reynardine's orignally design he was a bat is probably the most startling relevation. That was my favorite part as well - including Tom's drawing of Reynardine as a bat and looking extremely annoyed about it. While a lot of the "behind-the-scenes" information in these talks is already familiar thanks to Tom's comments, that one was new. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 12, 2014 22:58:12 GMT
'this jerk' kind of looks like Aly Is she Aly's time-traveling mother? I like how Tom dispels wild fan theories/questions with a simple "I don't know who this jerk is". |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Aug 13, 2014 1:34:00 GMT
Wow, Tom is pumping these retrospectives out so fast! When this started I was hopeful that he might give us one per week. We are already up to chapter four!
Pace yourself Tom! Although honestly I understand that the earlier chapters are much shorter and quicker to do. They also have a lot less stuff going on than later works.
These have been such a pleasure to watch. That "bat" revelation was stunning. Wolf was the wise choice. I also liked how he explained the "info dump" of Orjaks in the bonus page. I mean, we all liked it. And it makes sense that he would choose this way to do it, rather than have the characters spend half a chapter chatting about Orjaks. That would have been a waste of space. So... good choice from a storytelling standpoint. I think he makes good use of the bonus pages. (Yes, even Mort Fun TIME!)
When he did # 1, everyone was talking about his voice, his accent. I think it is interesting to hear how he laughs at some of the things he says, and is clearly pumped up by getting to talk about it. I hope he is having as much fun making these as we are in watching them.
Looking forward to Chapter five and the introduction of Zimmy and Gamma! I can't wait to hear what he has to say about those Two Strange Girls.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 13, 2014 3:22:07 GMT
And another confirmation that those paintings won't be making a reappearence! Also WHAT IS THIIII... I had never noticed robot's other arm there before, heh. And also the fact that the changing of stories over time had come into the comic much earlier than I remembered. Tom mentioned during his Aug 12, 2104 live stream video at 2:28:00 there are no other plot elements that he inserted and then completely abandoned like the paintings. |
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Post by philman on Aug 13, 2014 7:23:18 GMT
And another confirmation that those paintings won't be making a reappearence! Also WHAT IS THIIII... I had never noticed robot's other arm there before, heh. And also the fact that the changing of stories over time had come into the comic much earlier than I remembered. Tom mentioned during his Aug 12, 2104 live stream video at 2:28:00 there are no other plot elements that he inserted and then completely abandoned like the paintings. Ah, I tried to watch that but it crashed and I ended up going out anyway. Hopefully can catch the next one! |
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Post by Eversist on Aug 13, 2014 19:52:51 GMT
He's also mentioned the paintings in FormSpring answers (and I think his old Word of Tom thread).
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Aug 14, 2014 9:54:30 GMT
Ladle rat rotten hut winter fist a groinmurder. Wtf is this thing??? |
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Post by keef on Aug 14, 2014 9:59:46 GMT
Ladle rat rotten hut winter fist a groinmurder. Wtf is this thing??? Boxbot English; I speak it fluently...  |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Aug 14, 2014 21:23:16 GMT
Ladle rat rotten hut winter fist a groinmurder. Wtf is this thing??? Just a little tale from the anguish languish. |
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Post by Eversist on Aug 20, 2014 15:23:47 GMT
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Post by Ophel on Aug 20, 2014 16:52:57 GMT
Eheh. I never noticed that current social interactions for Z&G is limited, as opposed to this chapter. But it kinda feels right, since, they still keep to themselves anyway.
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Post by todd on Aug 26, 2014 23:03:04 GMT
Eheh. I never noticed that current social interactions for Z&G is limited, as opposed to this chapter. But it kinda feels right, since, they still keep to themselves anyway. As I've said elsewhere, their self-imposed isolation does have a metafictional touch (reflecting their originally being conceived independently of "Gunnerkrigg Court"). Tom's posted the talk on Chapter Six - describing it as not only the point where Annie first starts to show emotion, but also when he and Kat truly become friends rather than just classmates who hang out together. |
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Post by todd on Sept 3, 2014 11:15:07 GMT
Tom's piece on Chapter Seven is now up. A lot more discussion on the art of the comic (specifically his decision to do minimalist backgrounds) than I'd expected, though natural since this is a comic. Also a bit about the point behind the Treatises (including a mention of Kat in the first Treatise making a hand symbol that represents a crane, as a foreshadowing of "A Week For Kat").
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Post by fanofts on Sept 3, 2014 17:53:23 GMT
Tom's piece on Chapter Seven is now up. A lot more discussion on the art of the comic (specifically his decision to do minimalist backgrounds) than I'd expected, though natural since this is a comic. Also a bit about the point behind the Treatises (including a mention of Kat in the first Treatise making a hand symbol that represents a crane, as a foreshadowing of "A Week For Kat"). In case others like myself had difficulty understanding the phrase at 00:23, I think it's "a bit of in medias res" . I first heard it as invideas res but Google was definitely not my friend until I used www.google.com/ncr to disable its annoying country redirect. Hope this helps other Google sufferers. |
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Post by keef on Sept 3, 2014 20:45:56 GMT
Chapter 5: "The chapter ends with the three main characters introduced; Annie Kat and Reynardine."
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Post by todd on Sept 3, 2014 22:20:03 GMT
In case others like myself had difficulty understanding the phrase at 00:23, I think it's "a bit of in medias res" . I first heard it as invideas res but Google was definitely not my friend until I used www.google.com/ncr to disable its annoying country redirect. Hope this helps other Google sufferers. "In media res". Ah, that takes me back to when I was around twelve or thirteen and reading up eagerly on the conventions of classical epics; "in media res", epic throw-back, catalogues of leaders, extended similes, etc. |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Sept 4, 2014 6:44:05 GMT
I loved the retrospective on chapter 6: A handful of dirt.
I am one of those people that looks back on that chapter fondly and indeed, I consider it one of the best. It was a real turning point in Tom's storytelling, and was very moving.
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Post by Ophel on Sept 4, 2014 11:23:06 GMT
Heck yeah! The treatise! I definitely looked forward to it and was not disappoint! Interesting that pages like that would have been use by alchemists as a sort of wordless instruction guide for their creations.
This is the kind of stuff I like!
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Post by todd on Sept 10, 2014 11:10:30 GMT
Tom just put up his retrospective on Chapter Eight on YouTube (giving a lot of focus on the earlier comic idea he'd had about urban fairies in Birmingham - I hope he doesn't get a lot of angry letters from "City Face" fans over his description of pigeons as "rats with wings", though he was just mentioning how other people view them, not necessarily how he views them).
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 10, 2014 11:29:52 GMT
So the city fairies are like rats. I did not expect that! Now I really hope Tom can tell their story too.
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Post by gary on Sept 16, 2014 19:07:04 GMT
The bonus in the latest one is superb.
Exactly what I always wanted in the main comic but never got.
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