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Post by pyradonis on May 8, 2020 7:38:46 GMT
Tom might leave many of the mysteries about the Court forever unanswered on the grounds of "By this time, the revelation could never live up to the audience's expectations". Now that would be not only sloppy but also lazy.
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Post by DonDueed on May 16, 2020 19:06:10 GMT
Marine Monarch should be pleased.
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Post by bedinsis on May 16, 2020 20:05:47 GMT
This one I found genuinely interesting. The only sad part as a regular forum visitor is that most of the revelations about the chapter has already been discussed back and forth here, so this was more or less already a confirmation of things that has already been discussed and reached a reasonable consensus on.
There was however three things that I never caught up on:
Cvet is a Rogat teenager, eager to visit new places.
Part of Annie C.'s treatment of Annie F. (and probably vice versa) was due to recognizing her own flaws in her, from the outside.
It was the fact that Kat appeared happy after the Annies' reconciliation that made Paz make a thumbs up. Or at least partially.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2020 4:58:50 GMT
By The Way: Kudos to glyphomatrix on correctly identifying the base model for the ashray: DrepanaspisThat aside, I have to admit that I'm a little disappointed because there are nymphs out there who look like the ashray from the comic (including arm-like mouthparts) and there seems to be a missed pun opportunity.
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Post by mturtle7 on May 18, 2020 4:21:56 GMT
Man I remember when this chapter came out I couldn't stop gushing over how much I loved the way the Annies' conversation actually read like someone's internal monologue - I think I came up with the term "external duologue" to try and express how unique this was. And now, the author's saying that he made this whole chapter specifically because he wanted that unique expression of an internal monologue! How cool is that?!
Also, Magnolia you hopeless romantic, of COURSE the page where Annie talks about her crush is your favorite page ever. Of COURSE it is.
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Post by madjack on May 31, 2020 0:30:01 GMT
71 is up. A few interesting clarifications about the arrow and regarding the arbiter's motives.
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Post by iconocat on May 31, 2020 0:59:46 GMT
I'm very intrigued by the fact that Arthur's modular components will come into play later! That hasn't been mentioned at all yet.
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Post by pyradonis on May 31, 2020 11:53:56 GMT
I knew this wasn't even Robot's final form.
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Post by Druplesnubb on May 31, 2020 12:09:57 GMT
Wait, if the problem was that Arthur's transference used a copy of Annie's contract with Reyanrd, and Reynard's contract was chagned to a familiar, does that mean that Arthur and all the other human robots are Kat's familiars?
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Post by Corvo on May 31, 2020 17:56:50 GMT
Wait, if the problem was that Arthur's transference used a copy of Annie's contract with Reyanrd, and Reynard's contract was chagned to a familiar, does that mean that Arthur and all the other human robots are Kat's familiars? As I understand it, Kat didn't use a "copy" of Annie's contract, but the contract itself, and that's what caused the problem, since it was a single-use contract and all. That's why they had to alter it to a multi-use one. And that probably means some of its clauses and details were altered too, so it doesn't quite fit Annie and Renard's case anymore. Alas, Annie got a brand new contract, one of the "Familiar" variety!
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Post by Runningflame on May 31, 2020 20:35:19 GMT
He does have a bit of a personality, even if his personality is that he's a big, long-forgotten slab of concrete. This would make such a great insult. If I were in the habit of insulting people, I'd want to use this sometime.
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Post by wies on Jun 1, 2020 3:20:15 GMT
That was such a good line, indeed.
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Post by arf on Jun 4, 2020 7:19:26 GMT
The block of concrete personality comes through with the exchange drop:
Interpreter: We have to put you in a jail: in the sense of a mental restraint on what you can and can't do. Sasmael:@%#@^! Interpreter: ...oh? Sasmael:$%$$^^**%R^%! Interpreter: ... it's a physical jail also.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 13, 2020 19:56:59 GMT
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Post by bedinsis on Jun 13, 2020 20:00:28 GMT
*Perspective, singular.
Honestly, this retrospective contained no surprises for me. Apart from Mr. Siddell being inspired by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but since I've never watched or read that series I cannot comment any further.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 13, 2020 20:09:22 GMT
*Perspective, singular. Honestly, this retrospective contained no surprises for me. Apart from Mr. Siddell being inspired by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but since I've never watched or read that series I cannot comment any further. Fixed it.
I, for one, didn't know that Annie needs to lighten up a little.
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Post by iconocat on Jun 13, 2020 20:33:07 GMT
*Perspective, singular. Honestly, this retrospective contained no surprises for me. Apart from Mr. Siddell being inspired by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but since I've never watched or read that series I cannot comment any further. JoJo's is a series wherein extremely buff men wearing outrageously flamboyant outfits are thrown into equally outrageous situations and must use their convoluted abilities to find a way out. Arthur here is reminiscent of the show.
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Post by iconocat on Jun 27, 2020 22:32:04 GMT
Chapter 73: The Goose Bone!Remember, Renard was hanging out with Kat that day, so the light could easily be her. However, I doubt whatever the Court's been working on is Kat, because they shut down the ether station to create it, which wouldn't affect Kat's development, and because the Omega Device was mentioned, or at least teased, before Kat was even born.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 28, 2020 1:33:41 GMT
Chapter 73: The Goose Bone!Remember, Renard was hanging out with Kat that day, so the light could easily be her. However, I doubt whatever the Court's been working on is Kat, because they shut down the ether station to create it, which wouldn't affect Kat's development, and because the Omega Device was mentioned, or at least teased, before Kat was even born. He said it was next to or in close proximity to Renard or words to that effect... so Kat being arguably part of the Court, I guess it's Kat's system that "Loup" was talking about.
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Post by iconocat on Jul 11, 2020 17:33:11 GMT
Chapter 74: Moving!We're almost caught up now! I see an interesting parallel between Jones and Zimmy - even though Zimmy is much closer to the ether, they're both seemingly unchanging beings that notice a lot but don't act. I'd love to see them interact, or for Jones to even take Zimmy under her wing.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 11, 2020 18:15:51 GMT
Chapter 74: Moving!We're almost caught up now! I see an interesting parallel between Jones and Zimmy - even though Zimmy is much closer to the ether, they're both seemingly unchanging beings that notice a lot but don't act. I'd love to see them interact, or for Jones to even take Zimmy under her wing.
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Post by Eily on Jul 17, 2020 15:44:00 GMT
I'd love to see them interact, or for Jones to even take Zimmy under her wing. I wonder how Jones would look like to Zimmy, and if Zimmy would even notice Jones at all.
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Post by iconocat on Jul 17, 2020 17:24:39 GMT
I'd love to see them interact, or for Jones to even take Zimmy under her wing. I wonder how Jones would look like to Zimmy, and if Zimmy would even notice Jones at all. Yes! These are the kind of interactions I hope we'll get to learn about.
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Post by Gotolei on Jul 18, 2020 15:41:47 GMT
I'd love to see them interact, or for Jones to even take Zimmy under her wing. I wonder how Jones would look like to Zimmy, and if Zimmy would even notice Jones at all. They've met, and I'm guessing it's nothing much out of the ordinary as Zimmy on that page is about as amicable as she usually is.
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2021 22:43:09 GMT
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Post by DonDueed on Oct 30, 2021 23:44:35 GMT
Such a good chapter, and such a good commentary!
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Post by Druplesnubb on Oct 31, 2021 9:30:12 GMT
The most interesting tidbit imo is Tom hinting that the "Angel" figure is what Robot's final body might look like.
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Post by Eversist on Nov 1, 2021 7:10:20 GMT
The most interesting tidbit imo is Tom hinting that the "Angel" figure is what Robot's final body might look like. I feel like he did an adequate job hinting at this with the comic itself, but I did totally appreciate the pretty-much-author-confirmation. That final chapter page was so good, and such a good use of that "epilogue page." -- This was such a crazy chapter to communicate, and I feel like Tom did a great job, both in the chapter, and in this commentary.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 1, 2021 13:29:08 GMT
The most interesting tidbit imo is Tom hinting that the "Angel" figure is what Robot's final body might look like. Brrr. I hope not. It's probably just me, but I just can't stand his unctuous face. Makes me really aggressive. I hate it even more than "I can explain." "No... I understand."
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Post by speedwell on Nov 1, 2021 15:00:55 GMT
The most interesting tidbit imo is Tom hinting that the "Angel" figure is what Robot's final body might look like. Brrr. I hope not. It's probably just me, but I just can't stand his unctuous face. Makes me really aggressive. I hate it even more than "I can explain." "No... I understand." That half-child-half-adult, neither-male-or-female, uncanny-valley sort of look is also evoked with purpose in drawings and paintings of Hindu gods, particularly Lord Shiva, who is often intentionally depicted as a half-male-half-female "Avalokiteshvara" form (literally half one and half the other, not an androgyne form, that is). The intention is to cause the viewer to react to the being as something not natural - in the case of Shiva, supernatural, and in the case of Robot, artificial. Your aversive reaction is not unexpected; you'd expect the viewer to experience mixed attraction and repulsion and a feeling that there was something wrong with the being. I actually used to hate what I saw as saccharine, effeminate portrayals of Shiva until I understood what was going on artistically. When the god is portrayed in Hindu films, the actor chosen is a conventionally handsome man. Robot, even though he apparently identifies as male, seems to view his personification as an artistic, creative expression and not as an expression of his humanity. I had thought that was something else that set him apart from the other robots, his creative urge and willingness to be something out of the ordinary. It's all of a piece with his personality, really.
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