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Post by Toloc on Dec 18, 2013 9:11:22 GMT
An odd choice of Words? For Antimony Carver?Hm, maybe. I dunno, just seems a bit too coincidental. I guess it can just be chalked up as some kind of irony anyways. Makes me wonder how they got to that point in the conversation... So, even if Kat wasn't totally serious back then, Annie thought she wasn't opposed to dating girls long before Paz entered the picture. Does that shed some new light on this page? And even if Kat didn't remember her joking response, shouldn't she at least remember they talked about it, and that Annie din't appear to be homophobic? |
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Post by polioman on Dec 18, 2013 9:16:54 GMT
You know what I just thought of that does disappoint me about this conversation? Annie wasn't upset that Kat didn't tell her that she was dating Paz. I was very much expecting that to happen. It always confuses me when people say this. They weren't even a couple before! Kat wasn't sure whether Paz liked her as more than a friend before the kiss. I'm sure she told Annie that she and Paz were hanging out together, and telling her any more would have been purely speculative before a few seconds prior to when Annie found out anyway. In fact, I bet that, if Annie hadn't walked in on It Keeps Happening when she did, Kat would have just told her about it afterwards anyway. Which actually makes me wonder what the whole point of all this long, drawn-out "searching for Annie" thing was about. Tom could've easily just drawn a scene without Annie's interruption, and then a conversation between the two of them afterwards. I guess the whole payoff was supposed to be from these few strips of not being sure about the reaction. If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 9:20:35 GMT
So, some spec: has Renard's type of language kinda rubbed off on Annie? Seems like a bit of an odd choice of words for a 15-year-old. Annie might be just a bit odd for a 15-year-old. Remember what kind of 12-year-old she was? I do. She was odd. Anyway: yes. |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 9:22:22 GMT
It always confuses me when people say this. They weren't even a couple before! Kat wasn't sure whether Paz liked her as more than a friend before the kiss. I'm sure she told Annie that she and Paz were hanging out together, and telling her any more would have been purely speculative before a few seconds prior to when Annie found out anyway. In fact, I bet that, if Annie hadn't walked in on It Keeps Happening when she did, Kat would have just told her about it afterwards anyway. Which actually makes me wonder what the whole point of all this long, drawn-out "searching for Annie" thing was about. Tom could've easily just drawn a scene without Annie's interruption, and then a conversation between the two of them afterwards. I guess the whole payoff was supposed to be from these few strips of not being sure about the reaction. If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. I think he(she?) meant about this page. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 9:27:03 GMT
It always confuses me when people say this. They weren't even a couple before! Kat wasn't sure whether Paz liked her as more than a friend before the kiss. I'm sure she told Annie that she and Paz were hanging out together, and telling her any more would have been purely speculative before a few seconds prior to when Annie found out anyway. In fact, I bet that, if Annie hadn't walked in on It Keeps Happening when she did, Kat would have just told her about it afterwards anyway. Which actually makes me wonder what the whole point of all this long, drawn-out "searching for Annie" thing was about. Tom could've easily just drawn a scene without Annie's interruption, and then a conversation between the two of them afterwards. I guess the whole payoff was supposed to be from these few strips of not being sure about the reaction. If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. You know what teenagers in love are (especially the first time)? Really, really dumb. This was not a pick at anybody. It's more like been there, done that, wrote the book, sold the film rights, got sued for distributing inappropriate material, lost my case, spent my time in pillory and regretted all that for the rest of my life. But hey, that's life. Yet, I am likewise disappointed with the lack of rift here. I really am looking for the hostilities to begin, and they ain't beginning like this. The prophecy is still alive, but it ain't kicking. If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. I think he(she?) meant about this page. There she obviously did know. But there's the thing that we all knew it already on that earlier page. She thought it as well. And then she got all messed up and didn't know it anymore. |
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Post by baphomet on Dec 18, 2013 9:27:10 GMT
It always confuses me when people say this. They weren't even a couple before! Kat wasn't sure whether Paz liked her as more than a friend before the kiss. I'm sure she told Annie that she and Paz were hanging out together, and telling her any more would have been purely speculative before a few seconds prior to when Annie found out anyway. In fact, I bet that, if Annie hadn't walked in on It Keeps Happening when she did, Kat would have just told her about it afterwards anyway. Which actually makes me wonder what the whole point of all this long, drawn-out "searching for Annie" thing was about. Tom could've easily just drawn a scene without Annie's interruption, and then a conversation between the two of them afterwards. I guess the whole payoff was supposed to be from these few strips of not being sure about the reaction. If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. But in all seriousness, I agree she knew Paz was romantically interested. They might have been doing things together with the knowledge that they were romantically interested in one another, and we might call those things dates, but they clearly had not made it official yet until just moments before Annie arrived. Given the BS Kat thought she might have to deal with when she outed herself, it makes sense that she might not do so unless it was a sure thing. Just because they were dating does not mean they were a couple. |
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Post by polioman on Dec 18, 2013 9:27:39 GMT
If Kat didn't realize that Paz was romantically interested in her on this page, then she's really, really dumb. They were a couple. I think he(she?) meant about this page. I know, but unless Kat is stupid, she knew that Paz was romantically interested. Her anxiety early in this chapter was only natural. |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 9:29:12 GMT
Kat's hair! In panel 4! It goes up again!
And the paintings on the wall... I see a MGS poster and something..
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Post by jasmijn on Dec 18, 2013 9:32:46 GMT
I'm so, so glad my prediction was wrong! (The first one, at least. I still think the second one should happen.)
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Post by King Mir on Dec 18, 2013 10:41:42 GMT
You know what I just thought of that does disappoint me about this conversation? Annie wasn't upset that Kat didn't tell her that she was dating Paz. I was very much expecting that to happen. It always confuses me when people say this. They weren't even a couple before! Kat wasn't sure whether Paz liked her as more than a friend before the kiss. I'm sure she told Annie that she and Paz were hanging out together, and telling her any more would have been purely speculative before a few seconds prior to when Annie found out anyway. In fact, I bet that, if Annie hadn't walked in on It Keeps Happening when she did, Kat would have just told her about it afterwards anyway. Which actually makes me wonder what the whole point of all this long, drawn-out "searching for Annie" thing was about. Tom could've easily just drawn a scene without Annie's interruption, and then a conversation between the two of them afterwards. I guess the whole payoff was supposed to be from these few strips of not being sure about the reaction. He could have, but then we wouldn't know how insecure Annie is about losing friends and being abandoned. |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 10:45:34 GMT
Hm, maybe. I dunno, just seems a bit too coincidental. I guess it can just be chalked up as some kind of irony anyways. Makes me wonder how they got to that point in the conversation... So, even if Kat wasn't totally serious back then, Annie thought she wasn't opposed to dating girls long before Paz entered the picture. Does that shed some new light on this page? And even if Kat didn't remember her joking response, shouldn't she at least remember they talked about it, and that Annie din't appear to be homophobic? Hmm, did Annie know more than she's letting on? Or was she just joking about something that she didn't expect to be taken seriously? |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 10:54:58 GMT
Also, I now see where Tom was going with Reynard's concern; clever irony! Though perhaps the full-page speech was a little much...I don't know.
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 11:15:45 GMT
Also, I now see where Tom was going with Reynard's concern; clever irony! Though perhaps the full-page speech was a little much...I don't know. Renard's speech wasn't just for today's page, you know. It's for his Please Be Okay church. |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 11:42:02 GMT
Also, I now see where Tom was going with Reynard's concern; clever irony! Though perhaps the full-page speech was a little much...I don't know. Renard's speech wasn't just for today's page, you know. It's for his Please Be Okay church. Bwahaha! Didn't see your alt-text until I went to respond; very clever! Also, I agree; it's actually (despite the troller's remarks about that page) very much in line with his character development. He seems to have taken Jones' words from this page very much to heart. Actually, I think he straight-up quotes her. Edit: I hadn't considered the speech very closely on the first read-through, however I recently reread the forum board on 1282, so I reconsidered it a bit. |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 11:50:52 GMT
Renard's speech wasn't just for today's page, you know. It's for his Please Be Okay church. Bwahaha! Didn't see your alt-text until I went to respond; very clever! Also, I agree; it's actually (despite the troller's remarks about that page) very much in line with his character development. He seems to have taken Jones' words from this page very much to heart. Actually, I think he straight-up quotes her. Edit: I hadn't considered the speech very closely on the first read-through, however I recently reread the forum board on 1282, so I reconsidered it a bit. Wow, I think that's character development for Renard, but never thought of Jones' quote! I have many rereadings to do.  E: also who's the troller? EE: nevermind i found him |
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Post by dard on Dec 18, 2013 11:58:53 GMT
I guess the main point of this page was that Paz is now officially "super hot".
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 12:01:47 GMT
Bwahaha! Didn't see your alt-text until I went to respond; very clever! Also, I agree; it's actually (despite the troller's remarks about that page) very much in line with his character development. He seems to have taken Jones' words from this page very much to heart. Actually, I think he straight-up quotes her. Edit: I hadn't considered the speech very closely on the first read-through, however I recently reread the forum board on 1282, so I reconsidered it a bit. Wow, I think that's character development for Renard, but never thought of Jones' quote! I have many rereadings to do. E: also who's the troller? EE: nevermind i found him I never would have found it if not for it being linked to (for a different reason) by Mezzaphor on that same thread, as proof against what the troll was saying. Mezzaphor was linking to it to prove the theory wrong that Rey never lies, but it also goes a good way to demonstrating that this speech is in character and not just out of the blue for Rey. Kind of a win-win! Also, in a weird way, I'm grateful to the troll who forced someone to bring up this comic, thus creating his own demise and creating much more interesting ideas. |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 12:02:57 GMT
I guess the main point of this page was that Paz is now officially "super hot". Oooh, good catch! I LIKE that point! |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 12:13:18 GMT
I guess the main point of this page was that Paz is now officially "super hot". And darn I called it wrong. |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 18, 2013 12:31:02 GMT
Yet, I am likewise disappointed with the lack of rift here. I really am looking for the hostilities to begin, and they ain't beginning like this. The prophecy is still alive, but it ain't kicking. Would it be boring of me to say that I'm happy hostilities isn't beginning? I'd rather not have Kat and Annie be put in a conflict. There are still lots of things in Gunnerkrigg to make their lives interesting. But that's just me, and of course arguments happen. Still, I wouldn't enjoy seeing the two end up fighting. Even if it would make things interesting. I just don't want that stuff to happen. :c |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 12:34:58 GMT
Would it be boring of me to say... Yes it would.  |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 12:39:18 GMT
Would it be boring of me to say... Yes it would. Oh no you big meanie zimzims! I thought the same as Ophel!  |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 18, 2013 12:42:20 GMT
Would it be boring of me to say... Yes it would. XD Well, yeah, I kinda am boring to begin with. Seriously, though, if it does happen, I would still take in the experience, no matter how unpleasant. Is that not what life is? (a slightly different interpretation of life) |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 18, 2013 12:46:47 GMT
Yes it would. Oh no you big meanie zimzims! I thought the same as Ophel! Nevermind the big meanie. If zims say we boring, then we shall boring together! [cue super epic boring adventure party time] |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 12:49:39 GMT
Oh no you big meanie zimzims! I thought the same as Ophel! Nevermind the big meanie. If zims say we boring, then we shall boring together! [cue super epic boring adventure party time] "super epic boring adventure party time" Here, somebody with skills must add a picture of Jones alone in her room with the party hat on her head. |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 18, 2013 13:11:50 GMT
Nevermind the big meanie. If zims say we boring, then we shall boring together! [cue super epic boring adventure party time] "super epic boring adventure party time" Here, somebody with skills must add a picture of Jones alone in her room with the party hat on her head. Digging in this thread. E: Wow, the thread... just pure hilarity |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 13:17:43 GMT
"super epic boring adventure party time" Here, somebody with skills must add a picture of Jones alone in her room with the party hat on her head. Digging in this thread. E: Wow, the thread... just pure hilarity Yes, this does too:  Super Epic Boring Adventure Party Time |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 18, 2013 13:27:15 GMT
Digging in this thread. E: Wow, the thread... just pure hilarity Yes, this does too: Super Epic Boring Adventure Party TimeAhahahah! Oh, oh. Oh you guys. XD |
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Post by eyemyself on Dec 18, 2013 13:27:49 GMT
Nothing wrong with boring. I often wish my life was a little MORE boring.
On topic: Personally love this particular resolution. It feels real to me. So many of life's anxiety inducing moments between friends really do turn out to be built up out of nothing when they are finally examined closely. I think these last few pages show growth for both Annie and Kat; Kat has gained a better understanding of her friend's insecurities and Annie has had the opportunity to share her fears, be heard, and hear that everything really is alright.
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Post by polioman on Dec 18, 2013 13:35:07 GMT
Nothing wrong with boring. I often wish my life was a little MORE boring. On topic: Personally love this particular resolution. It feels real to me. So many of life's anxiety inducing moments between friends really do turn out to be built up out of nothing when they are finally examined closely. I think these last few pages show growth for both Annie and Kat; Kat has gained a better understanding of her friend's insecurities and Annie has had the opportunity to share her fears, be heard, and hear that everything really is alright. I agree, it felt more like I was reading something that actually happened than a story, especially considering that real life is almost never as dramatic as fiction. I'm also just vaguely annoyed that this whole thing was built up so much only for this to be the resolution. But whatever, it's consistent with the characters, so I'll take it and hope we get something more dramatic next time around. |
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