chaosvii
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I absolutely did not expect this!
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Post by chaosvii on Dec 2, 2013 1:39:23 GMT
... *notes that there are 7 ridiculous pages of posts* Did I miss something? Ehhh...I'll just assume I didn't, and that everyone just felt like making their polite discussion very wordy today. It was a n extremely polite discussion for the internet. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Dec 2, 2013 3:07:32 GMT
User Hypetrain was banned from this forum, not for proposing a different point of view, but for breaking rule #1 of the forum. Also signing up with an anonymous email service to create a forum account as a 16 year old girl suggests he had no intention of discussing anything reasonably. It's a Christmas Miracle! |
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Post by bykerhill on Dec 2, 2013 3:14:51 GMT
Hmm, so Rey's all "be prepared for Annie to totally act homophobic", which tells me that Annie will do the opposite. When characters make predictions, the narrative is obliged to negate them. Especially when it's a prediction being made by a character who has a thing for Annie, and every reason to drive a wedge between the two of them out of jealousy. I don't think Rey was trying to drive a wedge between Kat and Annie; he seems to be trying to be nice to her here as best he knows how. I do think you have a point with what the narrative says will happen, though. If Annie is going to be homophobic, why would we have this whole segment with Rey? Wouldn't it be stronger to just have Kat leave her workshop, find Annie, and have Annie herself give her both barrels of anti-gay? Tom's been pretty good with show, don't tell, after all. How the Rey talk DOES make sense is if Annie is accepting. We are set up by this conversation to do just what we are doing now... worry about Annie's reaction... which if there is nothing to worry about requires Annie offscreen. After we have our conversation angst, Annie can pop out and give a happy ending. I'm not saying this is what's going to happen, but it would make what we've seen thus far make sense in terms of narrative choices. |
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Post by snipertom on Dec 2, 2013 5:56:54 GMT
User Hypetrain was banned from this forum, not for proposing a different point of view, but for breaking rule #1 of the forum. Also signing up with an anonymous email service to create a forum account as a 16 year old girl suggests he had no intention of discussing anything reasonably. You sir, are a king amongst men. Also for the ban being about dickery, not being about difference of opinion. Guy sounds like an idiot  |
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Post by Covalent on Dec 2, 2013 6:04:37 GMT
Tom made an appearance but his "last online" status didn't change. o.O
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 2, 2013 6:10:17 GMT
Tom made an appearance but his "last online" status didn't change. o.O There is a setting in your dashboard called "invisible" that sets it so that you do not show up as logged in. |
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 2, 2013 6:12:14 GMT
Tom made an appearance but his "last online" status didn't change. o.O His last appearance was in our hearts and minds |
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Post by Covalent on Dec 2, 2013 6:18:07 GMT
Ohh. I knew about the "invisible" setting but I didn't know it masked your last online time too.
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 2, 2013 6:19:01 GMT
This thread got interesting.
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 2, 2013 8:03:44 GMT
This thread got interesting. The banhammer giveth, and the banhammer taketh away. So saith the admin. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 2, 2013 8:58:05 GMT
Tom made an appearance but his "last online" status didn't change. o.O His last appearance was in our hearts and minds GET OUT OF MY HEAD, TOM! |
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Post by Per on Dec 2, 2013 14:42:41 GMT
I didn't interpret "a voice will never be silenced" so narrowly and literally as "no individual with a message will ever fail to distribute and record it", but rather like "every human trait will find expression in time".
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Post by quinkgirl on Dec 2, 2013 15:59:09 GMT
His last appearance was in our hearts and minds GET OUT OF MY HEAD, TOM! He's watching... HE'S WATCHING ALL OF DEM POSTS! |
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 2, 2013 19:21:20 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 2, 2013 23:54:50 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. Wow. I never thought of this. I guess when Renard said "never" has was actually 100 percent correct. Too bad a certain someone isn't around to have their question finally answered. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 3, 2013 0:21:50 GMT
Truth-value has nothing to do with if something is a story or not.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 3, 2013 2:02:02 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. It would be a junkyard horrid beyond imagination, then. Fortunately, there's a whole food chain taking care of this problem. The top end of which is represented by critters like Renard and Coyote here.  |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 3, 2013 4:12:29 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. Wow, I wish I could give this post 10 x thumbs up! |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 3, 2013 6:49:44 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. It would be a junkyard horrid beyond imagination, then. Fortunately, there's a whole food chain taking care of this problem. The top end of which is represented by critters like Renard and Coyote here. I'm sure Coyote chows down on anything that threatens his fun or his Truth and Ys says that there are other powerful ones. Although in this context I would not accept Ysengrin and Renard as beings at the same level as Coyote. But does that mean there is one Truth or many in the Gunnerverse? Remains to be seen? But guessing by what the wisp said and what happened to Jack, there may be a predator/prey relationship with the wisps, shrimp (spiders?) looking for ways to get into people and places they can make their stories Truth. The spider got bigger by feeding off Jack, as we could see page by page. Going by the Formspring responses, the spider got into Jack's memories one by one (Jack by Jack) and was able to draw out and twist negative emotions he had and control him through those, though it was never quite fully in control of him. But one more memory-Jack captured and what the spider was doing would've been irreversible and whatever Zimmingham spider's real intent would be indistinguishable from Jack's intent. Or to put it another way, the spider's beliefs would become Truth for Jack. If Jack is still interested in Zimmy then it has become arguably true, I suppose. |
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Post by brightside on Dec 5, 2013 2:36:14 GMT
And someone can be interested in a social issue without wanting to see it always and everywhere, especially if that could mean a loss of quality in a work of art and EVEN MORE if it's preaching (BTW I don't think Tom has become a preacher, but maybe he was influenced by what's happening in other webcomics). My apologies, I had missed that you were bringing up other people's concerns. I dislike this entire 'Romance' plotline, as I feel it's usurping the 'Mystery'/'Fantasy' that got me engaged with the comic in the first place. It hurts that Renard's speech in the last page or two sounds like the author preaching using his character as a mouthpiece. Ah, ok! No problem! |
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 18, 2013 11:37:16 GMT
Funny thing: In a world with the ether, where human thought is apparently recorded even without contact with other humans, it's possible that a voice with something to say literally will never be silenced. It would be a junkyard horrid beyond imagination, then. Fortunately, there's a whole food chain taking care of this problem. The top end of which is represented by critters like Renard and Coyote here. : That particular page makes it appear that human thought is recorded especially without contact with other humans; it's like the wasted thoughts are more potent and get siphoned off into the ether or something. Kinda cool, and makes Renard's statement all the more poignant. TBeholder food chain is a funny way to describe it, considering this page; Coyote, at least, does actually appear to EAT memories and thoughts. Though now that I think about it, if all they are is the memories and thoughts of men...Well, you are what you eat; I guess it makes sense. Edit: That makes that whole scene, if possible MORE CREEPY. Coyote has been slowly eating away at Ysengrin; what happens when there's nothing left? |
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 18, 2013 11:50:46 GMT
It would be a junkyard horrid beyond imagination, then. Fortunately, there's a whole food chain taking care of this problem. The top end of which is represented by critters like Renard and Coyote here. : That particular page makes it appear that human thought is recorded especially without contact with other humans; it's like the wasted thoughts are more potent and get siphoned off into the ether or something. Kinda cool, and makes Renard's statement all the more poignant. TBeholder food chain is a funny way to describe it, considering this page; Coyote, at least, does actually appear to EAT memories and thoughts. Though now that I think about it, if all they are is the memories and thoughts of men...Well, you are what you eat; I guess it makes sense. Edit: That makes that whole scene, if possible MORE CREEPY. Coyote has been slowly eating away at Ysengrin; what happens when there's nothing left? That was also the page I first thought TBeholder's Coyote link would lead at. |
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Post by Ophel on Dec 18, 2013 13:03:28 GMT
Hey so, seeing as Rey's from France, does that mean that he would prefer the metric system? I don't get the feeling from Rey as the type to worry or concern himself with measuring stuff. ...Oh. Oh wow. I suddenly had a sudden flash of thought that Rey could possibly be a closet scholar. Hm... I think metric, in that sense. Much more convenient and less confusing. But wait! What if he doesn't actually know the concept of measurement?! [Think think think] |
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