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Post by SilverbackRon on Nov 17, 2013 18:01:27 GMT
Maybe that's because Annie has inherited the very soul of her mother, and by any way, she "smells" like her. Since Coyote isn't attached to human time, the fact that many years are gone and that Antimony is younger than Surma the last time Coyote saw her doesn't count at all. No ?... Yes yes! This is very good. It is like meeting identical twins and not being able to tell them apart. Especially if there had not been a second one out there when last you met. Still, it goes to the point. Coyote does make mistakes and doesn't know everything. He does, however, know a lot. And he can make some pretty darn good guesses since he has been around a long time. And that is not the same as "seeing the future". It is just being very knowledgeable.
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Post by Gulby on Nov 17, 2013 20:06:04 GMT
Plus, we know from one of the bonus pages that Coyote isn't omniscient : When he became the moon once, only THEN he was able to see what everyone was doing. That means that otherwise, he's not able to see anything more than what he look at, like Antimony, using the ether or not.
About Egglamore, my theory is that he and Surma was dating for a long time when they was at school, but then, with Reynardine killing a man because of his love for Surma, and her manipulating him to make him believe that she responded to his feelings, she flew from the Court (afraid of what she led to). Egglamore being a knight of some sort, he was tied by his duty towards the Court and she made her choice : she left with Anthony. Well, that's not a good theory, but at least, it is one.
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 17, 2013 20:19:04 GMT
Also quite possibly feigned, with that as the convenient pretext. Coyote enjoys the awkwardness, and more so, I suspect, as Eggers is involved. Hmm... this guy is too serious... Then again, Coyote is an easily-distracted god. I always had the sneaking suspicion that Eglamore might've liked Surma... but that might be just me. GET OUT OF TOWN! Hello, Red!
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 18, 2013 8:09:33 GMT
"Shock not compounded with these particular reasons" is nothing specified. You have to give a reason to that shock and then it is something specific. The only reason to shock I can find in your post is that she did not know of Kat's relationship, but this is so close to option 3 that I count it as one version going to that category. Just less "upset" and more "surprised". If you mean some other reason, please explicate it. Um, the reason for the shock is that she just discovered something she didn't expect; something she never even considered as a possibility. The only analogy I could think of right now would be finding out your grandmother is a bug-eyed alien in disguise. (Sure, it's a bit exaggerated, but that's the point of an analogy.) But if you think "upset" and "surprised" are close enough to include in the same category, then I guess there's no point in arguing it. So the reason is she's just surprised of seeing something she had not even been able to imagine and there is no emotional or social reason to this? That's just how she reacts in surprise? Okay, that is a new one. Recall, this bet will not win just by her not having had any idea of Kat having an affair with Paz or that they're going gay in general, because all but 2 options (not only ones listed by myself, there were other suggestions too) we had come up with so far have more or less presumed it. So, if there's an emotional reaction towards the act, the persons or the relationship in themselves, or towards her not being told about it, then that is her reaction. Personally, seen her previous reactions to events that are only unforeseen by and not emotionally touching her, I think this is very unlikely.
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Post by Nnelg on Nov 18, 2013 14:52:01 GMT
So the reason is she's just surprised of seeing something she had not even been able to imagine and there is no emotional or social reason to this? That's just how she reacts in surprise? "Panic" is an emotion. (Or at least an emotional state.) Panic can be brought on by sudden and unexpected shock, especially one which shatters one' previous worldview (including one's perceptions of people they think they know), and last more than long enough to account for the two frames we saw her in-comic for. When panicking, people simply don't have the time to think. They start reverting to basic instinct, instead of acting rationally. "Fight or Flight", if you will; in this case, the latter option was chosen. Okay, that is a new one. Recall, this bet will not win just by her not having had any idea of Kat having an affair with Paz or that they're going gay in general, because all but 2 options (not only ones listed by myself, there were other suggestions too) we had come up with so far have more or less presumed it. So, if there's an emotional reaction towards the act, the persons or the relationship in themselves, or towards her not being told about it, then that is her reaction. I don't think that's quite fair, because panic isn't mutually exclusive with any of those things; panic is one of the most powerful emotions, overwhelming everything else. In fact, some other reason for Annie to avoid Kat must be present as well, as panic doesn't last long enough to explain why she didn't come back. For that, I don't have a theory. Although I can add one more possibility (even if I'm not sure of it myself) to the list: shame. Shame for having left like that could have driven Annie to keep her distance. Now that Kat's trying to seek her out, Annie may continue to avoid the issue, or she may react in some other way (including several of the the ones on your list). Personally, seen her previous reactions to events that are only unforeseen by and not emotionally touching her, I think this is very unlikely. It has happened before.Empirical evidence of her previous reactions to events which are both unforeseen and emotionally touching her supports this hypothesis.
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Post by zimmyzims on Jan 7, 2014 14:21:25 GMT
Personally, seen her previous reactions to events that are only unforeseen by and not emotionally touching her, I think this is very unlikely. It has happened before.Empirical evidence of her previous reactions to events which are both unforeseen and emotionally touching her supports this hypothesis. Was looking for a completely different thing and stumbled to this answer. Only read this very end and have to say you read it all wrong: I said only unforeseen and not emotionally touching, because that is what you were after in your option of being shocked for merely being unable to imagine thing like this happening, with no emotional reasons. So, precisely, the reaction there is similar to this one very clearly because it is emotionally touching - which supports the conclusions I made above. Well, by now I have also been proven right in this particular case, but had to comment this piece of really awkward argumentation. Read your earlier parts: panic is not an emotional reason, it is an reaction results of some causes. Emotional reason in your referred Rey debate is her feelings about her parents. That causes an emotional reaction. She reacts like that because the subject is emotionally touching. Running away in panic because of not having been able to imagine something is not a reaction to something because it is emotionally touching. You are seriously confusing things.
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