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Post by TBeholder on Jul 14, 2014 4:04:32 GMT
Heh just had an entertaining thought about if Canvey's tall tales included the Medium's friend who's totally legitly a real angel. Either that, or Shadow2. Because S13 met Kat the first time only after returning. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 14, 2014 4:59:54 GMT
Well, CoyoteReborn's obviously acquired a wifi connection, so perhaps they've read our Wildspec board. The Forest knows all of the Court's secrets. They're just bad at explaining them to one another (so we're safe for now...) |
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 14, 2014 5:48:14 GMT
"Oh boy, I just won a free IPad!"
"Yeah, well I have FIVE hot ladies waiting to chat with me right now!"
"Blue waffles? I LOVE waffles"
I pretty much imagine forest creatures using internet as every noobish stereotypical dunce meme out there.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 18, 2014 18:04:49 GMT
Just realized (and added this to the original post) - the chapter in which we see the Zimmyvision of possibly-Kat is called Divine. Hmmmmmm...
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 21, 2014 15:29:35 GMT
So in the early comic where Kat and Annie go into the habitat thing in the court that draws parallels with the ether, that could predict Kat dying and being taken into the ether by Annie. If there has been some kind of robot genocide filling the ether with Kat worship, then she could be deified, the process salvaging most of her consciousness, while also turning her into what the robots think of her.
On another note, I wonder what makes all of the robots find a precise type of angelic beauty in her that seems to fit their programming.
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Post by Lightice on Jul 21, 2014 18:20:08 GMT
Just realized (and added this to the original post) - the chapter in which we see the Zimmyvision of possibly-Kat is called Divine. Hmmmmmm... The point was brought up back then, though I made a counterpoint that it could refer to Zimmy's divination, instead. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 21, 2014 18:26:36 GMT
Just realized (and added this to the original post) - the chapter in which we see the Zimmyvision of possibly-Kat is called Divine. Hmmmmmm... The point was brought up back then, though I made a counterpoint that it could refer to Zimmy's divination, instead. Where was this brought up? In this thread? |
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Post by Lightice on Jul 21, 2014 20:26:33 GMT
Where was this brought up? In this thread? After a quick skim through, doesn't look like it. I'm guessing that it was in the thread for the strip in question. |
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Post by CloudedAtTheMoment on Jul 22, 2014 4:17:55 GMT
So in the early comic where Kat and Annie go into the habitat thing in the court that draws parallels with the ether, that could predict Kat dying and being taken into the ether by Annie. If there has been some kind of robot genocide filling the ether with Kat worship, then she could be deified, the process salvaging most of her consciousness, while also turning her into what the robots think of her. On another note, I wonder what makes all of the robots find a precise type of angelic beauty in her that seems to fit their programming.  Her eyes? All I could think of when I downloaded this was "Aaaaaawwwwww." |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 22, 2014 6:34:46 GMT
On another note, I wonder what makes all of the robots find a precise type of angelic beauty in her that seems to fit their programming. Some people speculate that, as Diego's initials appear to be DD (too lazy to track down page ref), he's her ancestor. This could give a reason that the robots gravitate to Kat. wait no that's the gravity generator |
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 22, 2014 6:44:41 GMT
The name Diego seems more of a Latin persuasion to me, Spain or Portugal or thereabouts. Depending on how far back Gunnerkrigg goes and how closely it mirrors our own history, those two would likely be extant states when Diego joined up with Young and his faction.
While Donlan is well, not.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 22, 2014 14:49:00 GMT
She could be descended from an illegitimate child of Diego who didn't take his name. Although Coyote's theory states that belief can cause things before the belief itself happened, so it could just be Kat's godhood slipping back in time.
@cloudedatthemoment- Hah, but what if the robots can scan one's brain, and they found some info on her personality that they considered "angelic". She is very pragmatic and has an affinity for technology, so the robots could be seeing this?
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Post by KMar on Jul 22, 2014 15:05:16 GMT
Diego could be very well Kat's ancestor without his surname being passed on to Kat; just one (great/grand)parent who took his/her spouse's name (which then was given to their children) suffices to explain that. For example, I don't think "Donlan" is Anja's maiden name. And people change their surnames even. That said, I'm more inclined to think that any ancestry is more likely spiritual in kind, however.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 22, 2014 16:07:18 GMT
Diego could be very well Kat's ancestor without his surname being passed on to Kat; just one (great/grand)parent who took his/her spouse's name (which then was given to their children) suffices to explain that. For example, I don't think "Donlan" is Anja's maiden name. And people change their surnames even. That said, I'm more inclined to think that any ancestry is more likely spiritual in kind, however. Oh god, I feel so stupid for forgetting that women normally take their husband's name. |
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Post by keef on Jul 22, 2014 16:54:49 GMT
Diego could be very well Kat's ancestor without his surname being passed on to Kat; just one (great/grand)parent who took his/her spouse's name (which then was given to their children) suffices to explain that. Just for the fun of wild spec: Like Anja, Diego could be of Spanish Roma (or Romani)descent, but Amen The point was brought up back then, though I made a counterpoint that it could refer to Zimmy's divination, instead. Where was this brought up? In this thread? Officially im working now  so no time to look for it, but wasn't it brought up in the reread thread?gunnerkrigg.proboards.com/post/66299/threadgunnerkrigg.proboards.com/post/67867/thread |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 22, 2014 18:52:32 GMT
keef: that's a really cool point (with 'divine' as a verb) and I have never thought of that before!! Now I have to make hard choices with the Spanish translation  However, it's distinct from what I was commenting (the it could be saying Kat is a 'divine being'). EDIT: I see why I was half confused - I misread Lightice's original post about the subject, sorry
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 23, 2014 2:49:57 GMT
Perhaps it's a double meaning, like MF DOOM's lyrics.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 23, 2014 3:07:21 GMT
Perhaps it's a double meaning, like MF DOOM's lyrics. Perhaps it's a double meaning, like so much Tom does. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 23, 2014 3:24:54 GMT
^Perhaps it's a double post. *bows*
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 23, 2014 3:44:21 GMT
^Perhaps it's a double post. *bows* It was a lot of work liking them both, I tell you what.
Wonderful hidden feature of forums. You press post, the server decides to take a lunch break, and then you get annoyed and jam it a bunch more times, the server comes back from lunch and says, "oh! Fifteen clicks you say? Okay! FIFTEEN POSTS"
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Post by fwip on Jul 23, 2014 4:48:24 GMT
On another note, I wonder what makes all of the robots find a precise type of angelic beauty in her that seems to fit their programming. Maybe she resembles Jeanne. Perhaps they see her link to Annie as analogous to Jeanne and her boyfriend, and as such, are making it their #1 priority to make sure she stays with the Court. This means, probably among other things, treating her as well as possible - worshipping her, essentially. This wouldn't explain continued worship when they weren't in her presence if it was just a facade, unless only Robot sees the link and is leading the others in worship, which is exactly what he is doing. In addition, his own relationship with her as an 'angel' may mean he is working more for his own ends than according to Diego's imperatives. TL:DR Robot (S13) sees KatxAnnie = Jeannexboyfriend and so leads the other robots in making Kat as welcome as possible at the Court so she won't leave. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 23, 2014 6:45:13 GMT
I should clarify that, as I understand your post, Kat/Annie is not a romantic pairing but instead a symbolic cooperation over the lines of the Court/Forest.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 0:51:31 GMT
This word of Tom is interesting as to why the robots think Kat looks like an angel. It is referring to Zimmy's view of Kat.
"Is this what Kat looks like to the Court robots?"
"We shall see"
Also, this one seems to prove that Kat will die in the comic, but will she come back as a god?
"Is the way that Zimmy sees Kat (and some others, presumably) at all related to which psychopomp will eventually take her to the afterlife?"
"We shall see"
My logic is, he's implying that we'll see which psychopomp will bring Kat into the afterlife, which implies that she will die.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 26, 2014 1:43:09 GMT
This word of Tom is interesting as to why the robots think Kat looks like an angel. It is referring to Zimmy's view of Kat. "Is this what Kat looks like to the Court robots?" "We shall see" Yep. Saw that one. Intriguing... Also, this one seems to prove that Kat will die in the comic, but will she come back as a god? "Is the way that Zimmy sees Kat (and some others, presumably) at all related to which psychopomp will eventually take her to the afterlife?" "We shall see" My logic is, he's implying that we'll see which psychopomp will bring Kat into the afterlife, which implies that she will die. 'Her' is ambiguous in whether it refers to either Zimmy or Kat. Plus the morbid 'one day, Zimmy' as mentioned somewhere in this thread. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 1:56:59 GMT
At the end of Book 3, in the picture with Kat and Annie, we see the alchemical symbol of antimony on Annie's side, and another symbol on Kat's... What does it signify? It signifies Kat
Kat really is the creator, if word of Tom says the creator's symbol signifies her. This could mean she is Diego or will fulfill a prophecy or something. Tom has said that she has no relation to Diego. I hypothesize that the robots have a prophecy about an angel turning machine into man.
As I have exhausted word of Tom on Kat, I have no more of these.
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 26, 2014 2:53:54 GMT
Kat needs prayer badly.
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Post by keef on Jul 26, 2014 22:22:07 GMT
Also, this one seems to prove that Kat will die in the comic, but will she come back as a god? "Is the way that Zimmy sees Kat (and some others, presumably) at all related to which psychopomp will eventually take her to the afterlife?" "We shall see" My logic is, he's implying that we'll see which psychopomp will bring Kat into the afterlife, which implies that she will die. The great thing about the "we shall see" answer is that as long as we get more information about what Zimmy's view does mean, it is true. How do you pray to Tom?Don't think it will work, it's all preordained.... |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 27, 2014 1:17:45 GMT
Dunno where else to post this.
I think I know what keeps the robots from thinking like living things. She will obviously move back in the golem direction, buteven the golems don't think like people. Their minds are one single stationary, very complex, thought. Their reactions come from actions being processed through one thought. Living things have thoughts that are constantly dying and being replaced. Kat needs to make something similar to Conway's game out of the symbols, and the robots will have thoughts as fluid as living thoughts. She won't have to make t as complex as the golems, just capable of fluid thought. That is how to make robots into living beings.
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Post by zimmyhoo on Jul 28, 2014 19:54:43 GMT
Somebody with too much time on their hands inform me on what's gone down in this thread since I left.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 28, 2014 19:58:33 GMT
zimmyhoo I think Dedalo regularly edits the OP to explain.
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so no time to look for it, but wasn't it brought up in the reread thread?
