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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jan 27, 2014 8:17:29 GMT
Mh, but Coyote made it clear that some of what the Wisp was saying was falsehood. The question is which parts are true, and what are false. Pshaw, I consider that an insult! |
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Post by Chancellor on Jan 27, 2014 8:21:01 GMT
He made it reasonably vague, with a proper and respectable input of plausible misdirection and half-truths serving his own eldritch agendas beyond the comprehension of the common mortal?
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jan 27, 2014 8:21:33 GMT
He made it reasonably vague, with a proper and respectable input of plausible misdirection and half-truths serving his own eldritch agendas beyond the comprehension of the common mortal? Ah yes, much better!! You essentially summarized my narrative function in the story. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 27, 2014 8:30:54 GMT
He made it reasonably vague, with a proper and respectable input of plausible misdirection and half-truths serving his own eldritch agendas beyond the comprehension of the common mortal? Ah yes, much better!! You essentially summarized my narrative function in the story. Ah, hello. Long time no see. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jan 27, 2014 8:36:53 GMT
Ah yes, much better!! You essentially summarized my narrative function in the story. Ah, hello. Long time no see. Yeah, manipulating the puppet strings behind the scenes for both sides - Court and Forest - gets kind of tricky sometimes. So many tricks to be played, so little time. It makes me yearn for the old days, when fun was as easy as chasing a roadrunner. How do you humans ever keep yourselves from getting so dreadfully boooooored? Especially when I am not around? |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 27, 2014 8:41:55 GMT
Ah, hello. Long time no see. Yeah, manipulating the puppet strings behind the scenes for both sides - Court and Forest - gets kind of tricky sometimes. So many tricks to be played, so little time. It makes me yearn for the old days, when fun was as easy as chasing a roadrunner. How do you humans ever keep yourselves from getting so dreadfully boooooored? Especially when I am not around? Pretty much the same, sir. Obviously it's harder for me. I am not as smart or clever or emotionally unstable as you, alas. |
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Post by thedoctor on Jan 27, 2014 15:45:00 GMT
Ah, hello. Long time no see. Yeah, manipulating the puppet strings behind the scenes for both sides - Court and Forest - gets kind of tricky sometimes. So many tricks to be played, so little time. It makes me yearn for the old days, when fun was as easy as chasing a roadrunner. How do you humans ever keep yourselves from getting so dreadfully boooooored? Especially when I am not around? Why we read stories about your most wonderful and excellent self, of course! |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jan 27, 2014 17:57:25 GMT
My inner beta reader is screaming at me to mark off large sections of that text in red. Well, I still liked it (pout). Also, which text? Mine, or the fanfic's? The fanfic's. There's nothing wrong with it persay- it could just use a little tidying up is all. A few too many adjectives, that sort of thing. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jan 27, 2014 17:59:07 GMT
I think the story it told about the Seed Bismuth was true, it was only lying in that it was pretending to be the seed.
Also, apparently the fake is named "Beesmuth". Never knew that.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 27, 2014 18:43:55 GMT
Well, I still liked it (pout). Also, which text? Mine, or the fanfic's? The fanfic's. There's nothing wrong with it persay- it could just use a little tidying up is all. A few too many adjectives, that sort of thing. Agreed. It seems to be trying to be to melodramatic. And I have never heard such a moniker, but I like it. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 31, 2014 13:33:42 GMT
Afterlife guideS. That is all.
Of course, it is open to interpretation, like everything else in this wonderfully cryptic comic.
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Post by zimmyhoo on Jan 31, 2014 16:52:49 GMT
I don't think so...
It's what they're saying over on the update thread - it's an archetype being referred to, not the two folks in front of them.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 31, 2014 17:09:38 GMT
I don't think so... It's what they're saying over on the update thread - it's an archetype being referred to, not the two folks in front of them. I understand. However, the 'Creator's mark' means something to them, and it would not be very difficult to stretch it to this interpretation. Currently, I see it as ambiguous. How awesome it would be to find Kat's file under 'Special Cases' as well. (unrealistic dreams) |
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Post by Gotolei on Jan 31, 2014 17:29:59 GMT
What happens if they find themselves in the Special Cases room? Would it be like a schoolkid finding their records in the principal's office or something?  |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 31, 2014 17:48:40 GMT
What happens if they find themselves in the Special Cases room? Would it be like a schoolkid finding their records in the principal's office or something? "Katerina Donlan: potential psychopomp, center of cult, future goddess. [redacted] etc, keep under special observation" I repeat, unrealistic dreams. |
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Post by fishtie on Jan 31, 2014 22:30:48 GMT
On the other hand, Ann is registered as a medium; that's not to do with psychopomp so Kat's could mean anything so long as it's official.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 1, 2014 0:58:01 GMT
"Katerina Donlan: potential psychopomp, center of cult, future goddess. [redacted] etc, keep under special observation" Hm... You forgot " Object Class: Euclid". |
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Post by Intelligence on Feb 1, 2014 2:10:08 GMT
"Katerina Donlan: potential psychopomp, center of cult, future goddess. [redacted] etc, keep under special observation" Hm... You forgot " Object Class: Euclid".  God no. |
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Post by Daedalus on Feb 1, 2014 2:21:59 GMT
God no. You mean Keter. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 1, 2014 2:29:28 GMT
Please. Even Euclid is a stretch; Kat would more likely be listed as "Safe". Heck, not even Zimmy qualifies for Keter status. The only two Keters in the Court would be Coyote and Rey (post bodystealing powers).
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Post by Daedalus on Feb 1, 2014 2:49:25 GMT
Please. Even Euclid is a stretch; Kat would more likely be listed as "Safe". Heck, not even Zimmy qualifies for Keter status. The only two Keters in the Court would be Coyote and Rey (post bodystealing powers). I was joking, though who knows about future Kat? But I disagree; Zimmy warps reality on a large scale and is mentally unstable. She's Keter for sure. Meanwhile Rey would be Euclid or even Safe: at his worst he cannot affect more than one person at a time, is easily contained, and is even nonviolent in the present. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 1, 2014 3:34:31 GMT
Zimmy warps reality on a large scale and is mentally unstable. Yeah; and? Entities like that come a dime a dozen in the SCPverse.  Zimmy is neither homicidal, nor likely to cause a major security breach, nor particularly difficult to contain; all three of which are generally required in a Keter object. Meanwhile Rey would be Euclid or even Safe: at his worst he cannot affect more than one person at a time, is easily contained, and is even nonviolent in the present. Rey is definitely not Safe. You can't put him in a locked box and forget about him, especially if he isn't bound to an "ownership contract" like his is with Annie. (And he wouldn't be, as Foundation retrieval teams don't ask permission.) I asked about this on their IRC, and the general opinion is Euclid leaning Keter. It really depends on some of the specifics of Rey's body-stealing capabilities that we don't know... If it turns out that Anja's etheric computer (SCP-worthy in its own right) is the only way to contain him (that the Foundation can figure out), then that alone should make him Keter. |
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Post by zimmyhoo on Feb 2, 2014 14:32:04 GMT
Zimmy warps reality on a large scale and is mentally unstable. Yeah; and? Entities like that come a dime a dozen in the SCPverse. Zimmy is neither homicidal, nor likely to cause a major security breach, nor particularly difficult to contain; all three of which are generally required in a Keter object. I debate all three of those, except the first point. One also must remember she has the ability to infect minds similarly, even if only unintentionally now. Who's to say what she could do if she *lost Gamma* and was contained by those she quite possibly hated. Suddenly I stop debating the first point. Yeah, I think she's Keter. |
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Post by Intelligence on Feb 2, 2014 19:06:39 GMT
The only Keter in Gunnerkrigg was Hetty. everyone else is clearly Safe.
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Post by warrl on Feb 2, 2014 20:37:50 GMT
Rey is definitely not Safe... I asked about this on their IRC, and the general opinion is Euclid leaning Keter. It really depends on some of the specifics of Rey's body-stealing capabilities that we don't know... If it turns out that Anja's etheric computer (SCP-worthy in its own right) is the only way to contain him (that the Foundation can figure out), then that alone should make him Keter. I disagree with rating him as Keter. Consider that SCP-453 is classed as Euclid and, with the Foundation's containment procedures (which in this instance requires an active staff of not less than 31 people 24/7), routinely kills people - not occasionally, but possibly several times a week. And under certain conditions the containment staff is under orders to kill people, potentially dozens of people per event. With such an event possible every night. Reynardine can, under certain conditions (i.e. an ownership) can be successfully contained with no special equipment or location, no observation requirement, and a passive staff of ONE. He's rather more difficult and troublesome to contain without ownership. But if absolutely no attempt is made to contain him, he will probably kill one person every few decades. Unless he were to decide to return to the Forest and his old body, in which case his killing would presumably cease. If SCP-453 is Euclid, Reynardine is pretty darn close to Safe. |
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Post by Per on Feb 3, 2014 17:55:07 GMT
You are all wrong. The cursed teapot is clearly Kettle.
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 4, 2014 15:33:40 GMT
You are all wrong. The cursed teapot is clearly Kettle. Hahaha! Hate to be that guy, but can we bring this thread back on topic a little? Maybe start an SCP side-thread? |
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Feb 7, 2014 9:54:39 GMT
With all the debate on object class designation, what do you think of this? (also check the reply below). All we know about their abilities now is still pretty vague, so it's hard to put them in a class. I think that Renard would fit Euclid (Anja's etheric computer, but again, we haven't got much detailed information about it), Zimmy would be Euclid (take containment effort, but at worst we could telekill all the thing, or douse her in amnestics and sedatives like SCP-239). We don't know what would happen in the long run though... also series 3 is open now wooo so much stuff to read yay |
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Post by Stately Buff Cookie on Feb 7, 2014 17:15:36 GMT
I asked about this on their IRC, and the general opinion is Euclid leaning Keter. It really depends on some of the specifics of Rey's body-stealing capabilities that we don't know... If it turns out that Anja's etheric computer (SCP-worthy in its own right) is the only way to contain him (that the Foundation can figure out), then that alone should make him Keter. Enough was revealed to make that determination. It's not the only way. The computer only takes advantage of the rune that protects against him. The rune is the important part, and the crossed out eye is simple enough to tattoo on someone to protect them. Besides that, there is a max distance he can project himself. I can infer this from the fact there is only so long he can be without a body before his soul is in danger, and he can only go so far in that time frame. The facility he was in wasn't overly spectacular like some of the facilities in SCPverse are. All they had to do was chain him in the middle of a room larger than the radius in which he is capable of fleeing as a naked spirit. Anyone entering this radius needs a rune protecting them, but he's pretty trivial to contain all things considered. Couldn't have been too spectacular a place otherwise. Annie managed to just wander in, after all. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 1, 2014 23:39:37 GMT
Heh just had an entertaining thought about if Canvey's tall tales included the Medium's friend who's totally legitly a real angel. Green's rabbit could come back for a visit and tell him the story haha
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