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Post by Max on Jun 14, 2013 8:10:18 GMT
Ooh, ooh! *raises hand*
Maybe this is where the sewing needles come into play. Maybe she needs something sewn up.
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Post by bingli on Jun 14, 2013 8:15:30 GMT
is she a tiny robot?
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Post by Lightice on Jun 14, 2013 8:29:25 GMT
Am I the only one who imagines her sounding like Betty Boop?  Anyway, a completely new character has come out of nowhere. And she knows Renard. And is clearly not human. I wonder if those golden circles around her head are meant to be stylicised hair decorations, or if they actually float around her head? Could she be a messanger of the Coyote? There's next to nothing to speculate about her so far, so I guess we'll need to explore all the avenues during the weekend. Unless somebody knows the plot of that fairy tale "Hitty"? |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 14, 2013 8:37:42 GMT
Am I the only one who imagines her sounding like Betty Boop? Anyway, a completely new character has come out of nowhere. And she knows Renard. And is clearly not human. I wonder if those golden circles around her head are meant to be stylicised hair decorations, or if they actually float around her head? Could she be a messanger of the Coyote? There's next to nothing to speculate about her so far, so I guess we'll need to explore all the avenues during the weekend. Unless somebody knows the plot of that fairy tale "Hitty"? So THAT'S who sent the letter to Kat?! I knew it'd be a totally new person!!! ...wait... |
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Post by Toloc on Jun 14, 2013 9:27:32 GMT
First thought:
what
She seems to be a doll. If she has mechanical joints, why's her face fully articulate?
Is she another branch of some golem experiments? Or a spirit/demon possessing a doll and thus similar to Renard's situation?
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Post by Amethyst on Jun 14, 2013 9:50:42 GMT
She has the Four-Star Dragon Ball, so she must be trustable.
On the other hand, has anyone seen "Rozen Maiden"?
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Post by sidhekin on Jun 14, 2013 9:51:08 GMT
She knows him as Reynardine. Presumably not one of Coyotes, then.
Likely met him after the Surma misadventures, most likely post-Sivo, since he was rather busy (tied up, even) before that.
The difference between face and joints mirrors mundane porcelain dolls, where the head (sans hair and adornments) is a single lump of porcelain, while the rest of the doll may be of a different make.
Of course, fully articulate porcelain is not very mundane ...
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Post by madragoran on Jun 14, 2013 10:49:48 GMT
You mean myth? There was a myth with a statue that came to life. Indeed, the story of King Pygmalion, who sculpts the most beautiful lady who he then falls in love with, then I think a god feels sorry for him and brings her to life. From which "Pygmalion" by Shaw was named; musical version of course "My fair lady" There are also the automaton young women Hephestus uses to support him around his forge when Thetis comes to beg for new weapons for her son Achilles. It's mentioned in the Iliad [apologies as I do not remember the rapshody number] |
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Post by Cleo on Jun 14, 2013 11:38:45 GMT
I have a theory but after writing it out, it's more wild speculation than something I can hang my hat on but I'll share regardless.
I am one of the folk so saw 'animated doll' rather than 'faerie' so I was wondering if she's a forest creature that was sent to spy on (or aid) Renard and Surma back when the Court was playing their honeytrap games (hence the name Reynardine). Coyote knew what was going on between Surma and Renard so perhaps he gave a favoured friend some body swapping powers and put her in a toy faerie doll for spying/shiggles? It's the red eyes that make me think plans are afoot and that maybe Renard is happy to throw a spanner or two into the Court machinery (or maybe get some info on where Tony might be)? Ha, or she could be the world's worst saboteur that no one has noticed for years upon years but Renard likes to humour her. Still, there's history here, that's for certain, and I'm sure Coyote has eyes and ears in the court (Annie being his latest source).
God, I got all this from one page. You guys have corrupted me with your speculating ways.
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Post by snipertom on Jun 14, 2013 11:50:28 GMT
Only problem is that Coyote gave away his power and apparently that means he can no longer access that power.
Good thought though; wouldn't be surprised if Coyote has some other means of spying and finding out... shapeshifting?
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Post by csj on Jun 14, 2013 12:21:24 GMT
That's not a button on her bag, that's a Dragon Ball.
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Post by legion on Jun 14, 2013 12:50:29 GMT
About "Renard"'s name: the French word for "fox" was originally "goupil" (from Latin "vulpecula"); it was changed to "renard" after the literary character of Renart became popular. Thus, Renard is not named after the French word for fox. The French word for fox is named after Renard, which is a name of ultimately germanic origin < Reghinard, Reinhard, which either means "made hard by the God" or "wise, clever, resourceful" (which it is is not clear because "Reghinard" is actually two distinct names that happen to use homophonic morphemes).
Edit: about the doll theory, you can also see a neck joint articulation in pannel 3.
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Post by lunarluminesce on Jun 14, 2013 12:58:16 GMT
Looks-wise, Hettie reminds me a bit of someone you would find coming from the turn of the 19th century (think BBC's Pride and Prejudice extra). The hairstyle is similar, as is the style of clothing, if the dress was longer (you can look at this picture
of Elizabeth and Darcy to compare) According to Baby Names World, Hettie was also used as a name independent from Henrietta (popular at that time as well) around the 19th century too. The doll theory I think is also supported by the lines around her neck, and on her hands - almost separating her fingers. At the same time, her motions appear fluid, and her face moves without problem, so perhaps it's something different. Hopefully next week will tell. I don't think she's a fairy. She doesn't have the long ears, the white eyes, and her clothing and hair-style looks very different from what fairies that haven't passed the test have been shown with up to now. This might be a generalisation, but she's also using ""darling" rather than "stupidface" or the similar to address Renard. And she seems to be plotting something, with the tilt of those eyebrows (though what it is, or if it's anything serious I can't tell) which seems uncommon for most fairies. Edit: Ah, ninja'd by legion about the neck-joint. (I sure took a long time writing this) Edit2: The story about the doll Hitty was AlSO set in the 19th century |
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Post by goldenknots on Jun 14, 2013 13:07:17 GMT
She's up to something nefarious, I think.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Jun 14, 2013 13:12:28 GMT
I think those spheres are just some sort of jewellery or hair ornament she's wearing. Also: Hitty Her First Hundred YearsInteresting... coincidental? Maybe, but still interesting. Excellent find! Interesting story, too. I wonder if Phoebe Preble ever made it to Gunnerkrigg Court? Was she one of the special children that Jones went to pick up? Or maybe this is the continuation of her story after the book ends? She seems to get lost alot...Also, there are apparently quite a few people who are obsessed with either collecting or making Hitty dolls. Some of them are downright creepy. |
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Post by Cleo on Jun 14, 2013 14:14:29 GMT
Only problem is that Coyote gave away his power and apparently that means he can no longer access that power. Good thought though; wouldn't be surprised if Coyote has some other means of spying and finding out... shapeshifting? Ooh, shapeshifting minions would be very cool, especially if they are as cute as a button like Hetty. Even with her evil one eyebrow raised scheme-y face on. |
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Post by Corvo on Jun 14, 2013 14:37:09 GMT
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Post by exdevlin on Jun 14, 2013 14:48:18 GMT
On the other hand, has anyone seen "Rozen Maiden"? Me me! I have! Think she's playing the Alice Game? On another note, what is this Github project GK Sierra spoke of? |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 14, 2013 15:16:30 GMT
On the other hand, has anyone seen "Rozen Maiden"? Me me! I have! Think she's playing the Alice Game? On another note, what is this Github project GK Sierra spoke of? Our "searchable database of comics?" project! |
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Post by warrl on Jun 14, 2013 15:30:53 GMT
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 14, 2013 16:03:05 GMT
On the other hand, has anyone seen "Rozen Maiden"? A bit like that... desu.  Me me! I have! Think she's playing the Alice Game? Well... not necessary. Rozen could have more than one apprentice, and/or wasn't the only one to his master(s), and so on. That's not a button on her bag, that's a Dragon Ball. Or a stylized ladybug. Or (looking at "Coyote's spy" wild guess)... a ladybug shaped semi-autonomous golem drone! There's no place for a complex script, but probably enough for running simple errands like {fly there; look; wait; return}. As a bonus wink at the "do golems keep magical construct sheep" theme. Also, it would be cool.  |
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Post by Lightice on Jun 14, 2013 16:24:18 GMT
I didn't realise how tiny she was until now. The third panel shows her barely standing over the edge of the walkway! She's a very intricate doll, to be sure. I wonder if she's meant to follow some specific, historical doll style?
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 14, 2013 17:57:30 GMT
This tiny girl has trouble written all over her.
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Post by unrequited on Jun 14, 2013 18:02:50 GMT
I think those spheres are just some sort of jewellery or hair ornament she's wearing. Also: Hitty Her First Hundred YearsInteresting... coincidental? Maybe, but still interesting. I think you may be on to something EightyFour! |
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Post by bnpederson on Jun 14, 2013 18:25:26 GMT
Guys, she's obviously one of the many toys, dolls, stuffed animals and other children's accouterments given life by various ethereal experiments across the court. They didn't know Renard from the Surma days, they know him as the living stuffed wolf doll of Annie. God, it's just so obvious!  |
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 14, 2013 18:57:39 GMT
Heh That's a good one.  |
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Post by kubaney on Jun 14, 2013 19:33:31 GMT
Do you think she might be a Lare or a Penate? They were household spirits represented by small statues or dolls. We've been theorising about her with my sister and she thinks Hetty might come from Hestia, but she doesn't seem quite... imposing enough to be a full-blown goddess. Her hair does seem vaguely classical to me, though. |
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Post by smjjames on Jun 14, 2013 19:52:07 GMT
Do you think she might be a Lare or a Penate? They were household spirits represented by small statues or dolls. We've been theorising about her with my sister and she thinks Hetty might come from Hestia, but she doesn't seem quite... imposing enough to be a full-blown goddess. Her hair does seem vaguely classical to me, though. It looks like a popular 19th century hairstyle, but yeah, it does look slightly classical. Anyways, she does have a sneaky look like she she is up to something. I wonder what renard was origionally planning on doing though. |
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Post by faythofdragons on Jun 14, 2013 21:11:36 GMT
Oh dear. I smell trouble brewing.
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Post by grahamf on Jun 14, 2013 21:57:33 GMT
I also agree she must be a robot or something, or at the bare minimum "built". But to what end? What is her purpose?
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