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Post by philman on Jun 18, 2013 22:35:58 GMT
I haven't done anything to 1180, I added some tage between 1148-1164 though.
Looking at the last change the deletion of rows369-394 seems to have been me though, no idea how, I;ll revert it now.
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Post by philman on Jun 18, 2013 22:37:55 GMT
Oh wait I know why, the section deleted is the last half of chapter 17. I must have been editing the file I had on my computer before Snipergirl finished Ch17.
I was sure I synced before editing though :/
EDIT: Ok, reverted I think. let me know if still cocked up.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 18, 2013 23:03:19 GMT
Looks good now, philman. Character index updated: minor enhancements (and g'night: Zzzz...) |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 19, 2013 18:26:39 GMT
Merge Tag Proposal: AntiGravity to replace both AntiGravGenerator [3] and AntiGravShip [5]
These are effectively the same thing in different guises, with the core concept being AntiGravity. Having only eight [8] total occurrences, two tags seems over indulgent.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 20, 2013 18:31:16 GMT
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 20, 2013 18:33:39 GMT
Merge Tag Proposal: AntiGravity to replace both AntiGravGenerator [3] and AntiGravShip [5] These are effectively the same thing in different guises, with the core concept being AntiGravity. Having only eight [8] total occurrences, two tags seems over indulgent. 24hrs, no objections, so I'll likely do this later tonight. |
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Post by philman on Jun 20, 2013 22:14:50 GMT
I've been away, but I agree, makes sense.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 20, 2013 22:38:33 GMT
Is 24hrs a reasonable amount of comment time for such a proposal?
(I‘m not actually on the anti-gravity case tonight after all – stuff came up. Tomorrow…)
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Post by snipertom on Jun 21, 2013 6:19:26 GMT
Sorry guys been away doing... stuff...
IDK if 24hrs is long enough if no-one replies? I think a couple of people agreeing is more important? but then I guess there's the problem if activity decreases on here.
Agree with merging anti-gravity, should keep the ship and the experiment in the description though? I think with merging tags perhaps we should aim to keep what we merged in the description (eg with 'tears' and 'crying' if they are to be merged)
With the black dogs and the foley kids I vote to keep them both for now, esp as the foley kids could recur (certainly blue's friends recurred). we can always reassess later.
Perhaps I should start reviewing from chapter 20 onwards?
Also, is the tag helper useful so far? BTW, can't make it save because it's written in javascript (duh I should have realised that!) but can otherwise improve it
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Post by snipertom on Jun 21, 2013 8:47:11 GMT
quick question- what is the verdict on tagging people who are just mentioned but aren't actually visualised in the comic? I hadn't been doing it, but should it be done?
additionally- if we have the tag "treebody" are we tagging all appearances of ysengrin with the treebody or only when the treebody does something interesting?
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 21, 2013 20:36:34 GMT
Merge / remove tag proposals: well, 24 hours is the absolute minimum – unless the tag in question poses a clear danger to the stability of the Internet, of course (probably something tagged by Zimmy).
I’d have felt uneasy about changing had no one replied, but in the end it is just editing text so changing back - particularly with GitHub - if there is a misstep is no big deal. Next time I'll nudge for comments after 24, ok?
I will try to use a formal-ish Proposal post for such things, as I did here, so there is less change of something being lost in the noise of a general discussion post, and obviously I'd encourage other to do so too.
Just for the record, I don't think the active taggers are the only people with a vote here, Gunnerkrigg-fans.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 21, 2013 20:48:01 GMT
Where to start reviewing:
I don't think it matters much, the tag range and philosophy is changing as we progress. I’ll add to some of my early work when I come to it, if no one gets to it first. I don't think parcelling out the second pass will help much: we need multiple eyes to catch mistakes and taggings unthought of first, second, third time round. Browse as you feel; just have a tag window open as well as the archives!
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 21, 2013 21:22:32 GMT
Also, is the tag helper useful so far? BTW, can't make it save because it's written in javascript (duh I should have realised that!) but can otherwise improve it It uses Flash, as far as I can tell. I don't have Flash installed on my main browsers. Because of the sort of tricks that zeroclipboard does. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 21, 2013 21:35:00 GMT
quick question- what is the verdict on tagging people who are just mentioned but aren't actually visualised in the comic? I hadn't been doing it, but should it be done? Yes, if it is a significant ‘mention’: Tony in the phone call for instance. First references for some one/thing that appears later would be another good case. additionally- if we have the tag "treebody" are we tagging all appearances of ysengrin with the treebody or only when the treebody does something interesting? No, only when the treebody is interestingly separate from Ysengrin. It is actually one I was going to have a look at for a removal proposal (I haven’t checked yet so this is NOT a proposal!), just worth a mention in the Ysengrin description. Until Coyote makes it dance a jig without Yssi on board anyway. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 21, 2013 23:07:06 GMT
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Post by philman on Jun 22, 2013 1:46:12 GMT
quick question- what is the verdict on tagging people who are just mentioned but aren't actually visualised in the comic? I hadn't been doing it, but should it be done? Yes, if it is a significant ‘mention’: Tony in the phone call for instance. First references for some one/thing that appears later would be another good case. additionally- if we have the tag "treebody" are we tagging all appearances of ysengrin with the treebody or only when the treebody does something interesting? No, only when the treebody is interestingly separate from Ysengrin. It is actually one I was going to have a look at for a removal proposal (I haven’t checked yet so this is NOT a proposal!), just worth a mention in the Ysengrin description. Until Coyote makes it dance a jig without Yssi on board anyway. I don't know if it was me who created it originally, but I remember using it when Annie was tricked by coyote into seeing Ysengrin without his body that time. Looking at current tags it appears to only be being used when Ysengrin is out of the body for some reason. Which I guess makes sense, if someone is going to search for ysengrin they will do so directly. If they want to search for the comics where he is out of the tree body it makes sense to have a tag. As for tagging when someone is mentioned, I have been tagging alot of them, although I guess many can be removed. I agree, makes sense when it is story significant, but I suppose not otherwise. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 22, 2013 19:05:49 GMT
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Post by snipertom on Jun 23, 2013 15:45:17 GMT
Yes, if it is a significant ‘mention’: Tony in the phone call for instance. First references for some one/thing that appears later would be another good case. No, only when the treebody is interestingly separate from Ysengrin. It is actually one I was going to have a look at for a removal proposal (I haven’t checked yet so this is NOT a proposal!), just worth a mention in the Ysengrin description. Until Coyote makes it dance a jig without Yssi on board anyway. I don't know if it was me who created it originally, but I remember using it when Annie was tricked by coyote into seeing Ysengrin without his body that time. Looking at current tags it appears to only be being used when Ysengrin is out of the body for some reason. Which I guess makes sense, if someone is going to search for ysengrin they will do so directly. If they want to search for the comics where he is out of the tree body it makes sense to have a tag. As for tagging when someone is mentioned, I have been tagging alot of them, although I guess many can be removed. I agree, makes sense when it is story significant, but I suppose not otherwise. No need to delete really. Will start putting things in when and where I can. Sorry i haven't been around much! |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 26, 2013 19:26:20 GMT
OK guys back in the land of the living (or night-dwelling?)
I've gone through Chapter 32, tagged the last 2 comics and made a major improvement to the taghelper which is that it shows the most recent tags you've clicked on so that you can click them again/have faster access. Woot!
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Post by snipertom on Jun 26, 2013 19:27:01 GMT
Now here's a question- what do we do re: dorm vs subdorm?
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 26, 2013 23:30:20 GMT
Dorm is a general tag applying to all dorms
subdorm applies to the year 9 dorm and should logically be joined by, um, ladderdorm? (y7) and lakehutdorm? (y8)
But I wouldn't be particularly upset if we decide it is too much trouble, can it, and just use the dorm tag throughout.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 26, 2013 23:51:31 GMT
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 27, 2013 0:17:08 GMT
Sivo: do we need both Sivo and SivoBody?
I'd rather just Sivo, particularly now we've seen (just about) him alive, with his own personality.
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Post by philman on Jun 27, 2013 10:27:24 GMT
Dorm is a general tag applying to all dorms subdorm applies to the year 9 dorm and should logically be joined by, um, ladderdorm? (y7) and lakehutdorm? (y8) But I wouldn't be particularly upset if we decide it is too much trouble, can it, and just use the dorm tag throughout. I hadn't realised we were distinguishing, I think just using Dorm is fine. We don't seem to go back to past dorms, so the location will change over time, but should be able to tell which dorm it is just by which year she is in, which is in the comic search already I believe. Again, I think Sivo is fine by itself. He is a rare character anyway (so far at least) so shouldn't be too much confusion. He only has one tagged comic so far though! Might go through tonight and try and update the Sivo and Rogat Orjak tags as they seem to be missing alot! |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 27, 2013 11:08:38 GMT
Agree about Sivo! Goodbye SivoBody!
And yeah, can probably merge dorms with a note in the description perhaps
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 28, 2013 9:18:40 GMT
Character index updated: 1216/1216 pages indexed, 360 tags defined Sivo tag update & p1216
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Post by snipertom on Jun 29, 2013 18:19:28 GMT
Chapter 33 added a few tags; mainly the GolemHeart
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 30, 2013 8:26:33 GMT
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 30, 2013 8:54:31 GMT
A layout question: I've been wondering for a while whether to add links between the chapter headings to allow quick skipping forward and backward for those not blessed with long 'portrait' screens and a speedy scroll. The layouts I've tried have been variations on the theme: <previous | This Chapter | next> but they've as been ugly as fsck, cluttering up the clean easy-to spot chapter layout, so I've not done it in the live page. Q: does anyone else even feel the need to skip chapter cover page to chapter cover page to and fro through the index? Sub-Q 1: suggestions for how to lay it out? Sub-Q 2: would a Chapter Menu be more useful? |
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Post by philman on Jul 1, 2013 12:46:03 GMT
A layout question: I've been wondering for a while whether to add links between the chapter headings to allow quick skipping forward and backward for those not blessed with long 'portrait' screens and a speedy scroll. The layouts I've tried have been variations on the theme: <previous | This Chapter | next> but they've as been ugly as fsck, cluttering up the clean easy-to spot chapter layout, so I've not done it in the live page. Q: does anyone else even feel the need to skip chapter cover page to chapter cover page to and fro through the index? Sub-Q 1: suggestions for how to lay it out? Sub-Q 2: would a Chapter Menu be more useful? I have a speedy scroll but a chapter menu would be useful, possibly more so than inserting lots of next/previous buttons everywhere. If possible one of those ones that sticks to the side of the screen no matter how far down you scroll. |
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