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Post by csj on May 22, 2013 7:47:03 GMT
And the "I'm not...like that..." page, which was already one of the funniest ones in my opinion, just got even funnier. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=923HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Post by snipertom on May 22, 2013 7:48:02 GMT
Awww! This seriously made my day! So cute!
Given how Kat seems to have been struggling with the whole "into girls" thing for a few hundred(!) comics or so, it seems doubtful that she'd just reject Paz.
I wonder whether Annie would get jealous if they started dating though? Not because Annie is into Kat but because they are BFFs (LAUGHING ON LINE I hate the term BFF)
Time for some cute gay boys now!! ahahaha
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Post by hoskins88 on May 22, 2013 7:49:51 GMT
Perhaps Paz is pansexual. From here it seems like all it took to set her off was Kat being nice to her and that's it. Which kind of begs the question; WHO THE DOUBLE FUDGE SUNDAE IS BEING MEAN TO PAZ?! D8< I mean, in the Faraway Morning Kat is the only one who goes to comfort Paz, even before that when Winsbury brings up Matt's moon girl incident Kat seems like she feels bad about how Paz is visibly bothered (but trying to be friendly) about the situation. Heck, Paz wasn't even a part of the group in the power station either. Margo and Janet go along and they're in the Faraway Morning but no Paz. :c Is she just tagging along? How well do people get along with her? If Kat is really the only one that nice to her, that's really sad! I was thinking something along the same lines, that Paz is more of an outcast than Kat and Annie or even Zimmy and Gamma because even those guys have each other. It would explain why Paz became attached so quickly. Etheir way, as sad as it is to say I believe Paz's unluckiness is probably going to continue, poor Paz might be just a plot device, or catalyst, for Annie and Kat, but Im sure she'll be happy in the end. Then again if her and Kat end up together thats cool too.
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Post by Eversist on May 22, 2013 7:51:00 GMT
I wonder whether Annie would get jealous if they started dating though? I'm not quite sure Annie would get it. (kidding)
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 7:52:45 GMT
I don't think you ruined anything, Eversist. We're all cool here, s'fact. Annie probably wouldn't get jealous, I think she'd be supportive. She was really curious about who the letter was from. Maybe she'll be like Surma who was all about Anja getting together with Donald and Kat would no doubt still be close with Annie, it didn't stop Anja from hanging with Surma.
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Post by TBeholder on May 22, 2013 7:57:25 GMT
The Butt-ers Zone. I want to see it implode upon itself. It will. So people are just typing The Butt Zone now then? Maybe it feels strangely appropriate for some reason. Very painful I would expect, and if it didn't cause you to vomit immediately due to burning your stomach, would probably cause extreme belching as it melted into CO 2 gas very quickly due to body heat.. 22.4 (l/mol) / (12+2*16) (g/mol) ≈ 0.5 l/gram, so with the density of dry ice being, what, 1.5 g/cm^3? Mere 2 cm^3 of it would still end up as 1.5 liters of gas in normal conditions, so if e.g. the throat has a spasm due to recent brush with extreme cold, or just got frozen once closed... well, now you get the general idea of how this picture can look like... I'll refrain from searching for it now, but if you'll find it, may as well post somewhere in the vicinity of "the buttzone"?
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Post by heranje on May 22, 2013 7:58:16 GMT
One of the reasons I'm hella into these two as a couple (apart from the fact they're adorable), I just realised, is that Kat is Robotics Girl and Paz is Animals Girl, which is a pretty brilliant match. Especially with Kat's project taking inspiration from organic beings to make new robots - having access to Paz's knowledge would definitely help, no?
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Post by Alexandragon on May 22, 2013 8:07:32 GMT
OH MY GOD AHHAHAHAH! And the "I'm not...like that..." page, which was already one of the funniest ones in my opinion, just got even funnier. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=923HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA! +1
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Post by csj on May 22, 2013 8:09:18 GMT
Kat will have a lot of explaining to do as well.
I don't actually ship them romantically (come to think of it, I don't really ship things regardless), but they make great friends. I think this is another case of 'mistaken for gay', which will be pretty sad for Paz.
TBH, as long as this comic doesn't become another example of having half the characters being bisexual, I'll be happy.
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 8:09:50 GMT
Right? A Perfect compliment! And where did Kat get her inspiration that pulled her out of her sad funk? Paz! Sure, City Face kicked some inspiration into her, but Paz really helped clear the clouds, I think for someone so used to the Court as a home and a safe place, Kat was suffering pretty bad! Finding out your home was founded by nasty people and the creator of your favorite things was a total buttwad is a big deal. And then finding out they experiment on animals when you never knew such cruelty existed? That's just a double kick in the girl nards. But Paz really laid down the law and made Kat feel better in a way even Annie couldn't. Even though Kat's attempts at being comforting were taken the wrong way, Paz still appreciated her niceness when she thought more about it. I think they've got a genuine connection going and like making each other happy and that's the basis of a good relationship, friend or otherwise. Be excellent to each other.
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Post by hoskins88 on May 22, 2013 8:09:52 GMT
The Butt-ers Zone. I want to see it implode upon itself. It will. Maybe it feels strangely appropriate for some reason. Very painful I would expect, and if it didn't cause you to vomit immediately due to burning your stomach, would probably cause extreme belching as it melted into CO 2 gas very quickly due to body heat.. 22.4 (l/mol) / (12+2*16) (g/mol) ≈ 0.5 l/gram, so with the density of dry ice being, what, 1.5 g/cm^3? Mere 2 cm^3 of it would still end up as 1.5 liters of gas in normal conditions, so if e.g. the throat has a spasm due to recent brush with extreme cold, or just got frozen once closed... well, now you get the general idea of how this picture can look like... I'll refrain from searching for it now, but if you'll find it, may as well post somewhere in the vicinity of "the buttzone"? Y'all keep forgetting one very important thing, you cant touch dry ice with your bare hands cause it would cause instant frost bite to the contact areas. To eat it would cause horrible damage to your mouth and if you were able to fight through the blinding pain and swallow death is almost certain. You might as well due a shot of Hydrochloric Acid.
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 22, 2013 8:11:56 GMT
I mean, in the Faraway Morning Kat is the only one who goes to comfort Paz, even before that when Winsbury brings up Matt's moon girl incident Kat seems like she feels bad about how Paz is visibly bothered (but trying to be friendly) about the situation. Heck, Paz wasn't even a part of the group in the power station either. Margo and Janet go along and they're in the Faraway Morning but no Paz. :c Is she just tagging along? How well do people get along with her? If Kat is really the only one that nice to her, that's really sad! Perhaps Paz is something of a pariah because she's a Spanish student in an English school. Also, she's a country mouse in a big city.
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Post by Eversist on May 22, 2013 8:12:51 GMT
Y'all keep forgetting one very important thing, you cant touch dry ice with your bare hands cause it would cause instant frost bite to the contact areas. To eat it would cause horrible damage to your mouth and if you were able to fight through the blinding pain and swallow death is almost certain. You might as well due a shot of Hydrochloric Acid. I posted a link a page back about some Middle Schoolers that did it. Yeah, they ended up in the hospital.
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 8:15:40 GMT
That's a thought that squiggled through my head for sure, Mezzaphor. And if people find out she's into girls or even just A girl? Bully train ahoy, toot toot! (Shoot it down) Her reaction to the idea of cows was so cute. Only to be so disappointed. Not me, though. Love me some laser cows.
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Post by download on May 22, 2013 8:23:26 GMT
I just want to say that I love that this community is so accepting and I don't think I've ever seen any homophobic remarks on this forum (at least in recent memory; not that Tom would tolerate it!). I have come to expect this here and maybe take it for granted since it's a nice corner of the internet (but then again, IT'S THE INTERNET). *ruins it by bringing it up* I generally find people on the internet are much more open minded that those you may find in Texas
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Post by Eversist on May 22, 2013 8:27:45 GMT
I generally find people on the internet are much more open minded that those you may find in Texas Ah, see, that location is misleading because I live in the uber-liberal capital. Also, I read a lot of news (and the comments after the articles, because I can't resist). So I see some messed up opinions, man.
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Post by sassybat on May 22, 2013 8:27:47 GMT
Kat will have a lot of explaining to do as well. I don't actually ship them romantically (come to think of it, I don't really ship things regardless), but they make great friends. I think this is another case of 'mistaken for gay', which will be pretty sad for Paz. TBH, as long as this comic doesn't become another example of having half the characters being bisexual, I'll be happy. What's wrong with half the characters being bisexual? :/ Personally, I'm really glad this comic took this twist. Though I think it would take her some time to open up to it, I really hope that Kat eventually reciprocates. I also really hope Paz doesn't end up getting bullied for this or anything, that would be terrible.
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Post by download on May 22, 2013 8:35:06 GMT
I generally find people on the internet are much more open minded that those you may find in Texas Ah, see, that location is misleading because I live in the uber-liberal capital. Also, I read a lot of news (and the comments after the articles, because I can't resist). So I see some messed up opinions, man. I figured you did
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Post by Eversist on May 22, 2013 8:36:27 GMT
What's wrong with half the characters being bisexual? :/ Hmmm... I guess it could be seen as a cop out/pandering to a lesbian-obsessed internet. Just one of those things. Lesbians ARE an incredibly over-represented minority in webcomics (not that I'm complaining, let me be perfectly clear).
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Post by arf on May 22, 2013 8:41:03 GMT
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Post by csj on May 22, 2013 8:44:03 GMT
What's wrong with half the characters being bisexual? :/ Hmmm... I guess it could be seen as a cop out/pandering to a lesbian-obsessed internet. Just one of those things. Lesbians ARE an incredibly over-represented minority in webcomics (not that I'm complaining, let me be perfectly clear). Essentially. That logic doesn't add up for me vs. a character just being lesbian. Bisexuality is far less common than homosexuality (as far as I'm aware), so I see it as often being stuck in to pander to audiences (or the writer themselves). You're replacing a minority with an even rarer minority, so a character has an excuse to have romantic liaisons with both genders. EDIT: I think a tale about a certain bird boy may make a reappearance here to smooth things over.
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Post by SpitefulFox on May 22, 2013 8:47:47 GMT
Currently making high-pitched squeals that can only be heard by dogs. So much adorable in the latest comic! Also, this is gonna sound like a fan-ignorant question, but... What is the "butt zone" everyone keeps referring to? WHO THE DOUBLE FUDGE SUNDAE IS BEING MEAN TO PAZ?! D8< Well, for starters...
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 8:53:34 GMT
Well to be fair, this was all in the name of science. Ghost science. Scaring science.
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Post by arf on May 22, 2013 9:01:03 GMT
This has been preying on Kat's mind for a while now, so it's good to see it's coming to a resolution. (The name of this chapter is 'The Catalyst')
Remember Kat's reaction to Lindsey's suggestion she and Annie move into the same room? She snuck a glance in Paz's direction before taking to the idea whole-heartedly. I took this to mean she wasn't going to let a brief bit of awkwardness weigh down her other relationships.
It could still pan out either way. My guess is that Kat is going to be doing a bit of gentle letting down.
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Post by snipertom on May 22, 2013 9:01:46 GMT
Hmmm... I guess it could be seen as a cop out/pandering to a lesbian-obsessed internet. Just one of those things. Lesbians ARE an incredibly over-represented minority in webcomics (not that I'm complaining, let me be perfectly clear). Essentially. That logic doesn't add up for me vs. a character just being lesbian. Bisexuality is far less common than homosexuality (as far as I'm aware), so I see it as often being stuck in to pander to audiences (or the writer themselves). You're replacing a minority with an even rarer minority, so a character has an excuse to have romantic liaisons with both genders. EDIT: I think a tale about a certain bird boy may make a reappearance here to smooth things over. Most of the studies that have shown very low rates of homosexuality and bisexuality with bisexuality being even less common than homosexuality have been horribly methodologically flawed. I mean, come on, phone surveys? Can't possible think of a reason why people might lie on those Kinsey's original studies in the 50s did have flaws but also involved detailed face to face interviews and from recollection found much higher rates of bisexual behaviour than subsequently (and I think incorrectly) reported. I guess it also comes down to whether or not sexuality is a continuum or just one of three choices. And there being very few openly bi people in for example the 90s compared with now and very few openly gay people before that. Anyway, as a chick who mainly likes other chicks but occasionally digs a dude, I agree that chicks hooking up with each other on the webcomics is overrepresented especially compared with gay or bi guys. Not complaining about there being heaps of ladiez at all of course . Just that with some authors (I don't include Tom in this categorisation) it seems that the reason they depict lesbians is because they think it's hot while they think gay guys is gross. Which is poor reasoning for both! EDIT: what I like to see generally speaking is characters being themselves. if they happen to be gay, straight, bi, trans, queer, whatevs then that is just part of their character rather than shoved in there willy-nilly. I mean, Paz or Kat being into ladies makes sense for their characters.
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 9:15:58 GMT
Right! Let's never forget that sexuality is just an aspect of someone's personality; not what defines them as a person. Even if different sexualities may open up different learning experiences, there's nothing from stopping you from learning new things anyway! But I think it's good we're having a mature discussion regarding it, we're luckily in an era of talking about important stuff and hopefully one day, nobody will care or take notice. Til then, important talking times! For me, all that stands out is that Kat was nice to Paz and Paz is nice to Kat. As long as everyone is nice, we can go anywhere, man.
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Post by eightyfour on May 22, 2013 9:18:07 GMT
Poor Kat can't seem to get a break! Now she has to go back to Bobby to apologise and somehow explain to Kat that her moving in with Annie isn't "like that". But for some reason I don't think she'll flat out turn Paz down. This is going to get drawn out a bit. the reason they depict lesbians is because they think it's hot while they think gay guys is gross. This pretty much nails it down. A lot of guys feel that way.
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Post by chendzeeali on May 22, 2013 9:18:40 GMT
Omigod that was adorable sniff. No matter what happens next, this is one of the single most awkwardly beautiful scenes so far. Paz is really putting herself into a very emotionally vulnerable situation with this. Especially after their last encounter. Thinking back on that whole night and Paz's portrayal in general, she really is more of an outsider than just about anyone we've seen. As was mentioned above. Kat was considered an outsider too at first until she met Annie and grew alongside her. Kat was empathic to what Paz was feeling that night and saw fit to comfort her, which is still worth noting. She was also paying attention to the conversation while not being directly involved which is saying something as well. So perhaps she was interested in Paz without even realizing it. Who knows. Whatever happens next, I hope Paz is okay afterwards. I don't think she needs another emotional kick in the teeth. They are young, there is no harm in trying, who knows what will blossom. If at the very least they could be friends. Not that they were enemies but Paz hasn't been seen in a while except in background. So I get the impression Kat's been avoiding her.
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Post by americonedream on May 22, 2013 9:22:07 GMT
New member 5! *high five* All the agrees up in everything you said.
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Post by download on May 22, 2013 9:24:23 GMT
Hmmm... I guess it could be seen as a cop out/pandering to a lesbian-obsessed internet. Just one of those things. Lesbians ARE an incredibly over-represented minority in webcomics (not that I'm complaining, let me be perfectly clear). Essentially. That logic doesn't add up for me vs. a character just being lesbian. Bisexuality is far less common than homosexuality (as far as I'm aware), so I see it as often being stuck in to pander to audiences (or the writer themselves). You're replacing a minority with an even rarer minority, so a character has an excuse to have romantic liaisons with both genders. EDIT: I think a tale about a certain bird boy may make a reappearance here to smooth things over. The problem with that study is they just said are you gay, bi or straight? Sexuality is a lot more complex than that. As someone said, the Kinsey scale is a better representation of it. In real life you've got straight people, straight people with slight bisexual tendencies (pretty much means they'll never pursue it but they'll think about it), bi people who are more inclined to be straight, 50/50 bi people, bi people who are more inclined to be gay, gay people with some bi tendencies, and flat out gay people. It's just not black and white. Many people there would have said gay or straight because they're more inclined that way, as very few a "true" bisexuals in that they prefer both equally
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