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Post by aline on Mar 26, 2021 10:50:13 GMT
Anyone else find it interesting that Cvet did not share this curious piece of information with her closest colleague? Maybe she doesn't talk during training though. My working theory is that Parley forbids Cvet from telling those stories because she cannot take it anymore
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Post by aline on Mar 26, 2021 8:14:48 GMT
Oh god I had forgotten what a huge gossip Cvet was
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Post by aline on Mar 25, 2021 11:57:05 GMT
Well, it would be interesting who the other person(s) is/are who tell her about Tony. As far as I know, the only one of Parley's social circle who regularly interacts with Tony is Kat, who has become his friend (and seemingly never criticized him again, which is its own uncomfortable fact). It's a small, closed community. Surely there are many people who can see Tony being cold and distant around his daughter, including Parley herself. She saw him send Annie off to a meeting with dangerous demon-god without a hug or any of the things you would expect from a parent in a situation like this. But even Kat. You think if Parley asked how it's going with Annie and her dad, Kat would answer "great, everything's fine"? Just because she's warmed up to Tony doesn't mean she can't be critical of him when it comes to his relationship with Annie. She's still sad for her friend about how her dad behaves around her (like at the bottom of this page: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1915 when she tries and fail to make him closer to his own daughter and he issues criticism instead). Not long ago Annie was still running to her room to tell her other self "He made a joke! !!!". Kat isn't blind. She no longer thinks of Tony as a monster with evil plans, but... I'm sure she wishes he treated Annie better.
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Post by aline on Mar 25, 2021 10:35:35 GMT
Christ, finally someone other than Kat says something critical about the Antimony/Mr. Carver abusive relationship. It's never the older ones though, is it? Apart from Eglamore, who's almost dismissed as some angry spurned lover (which he is) when he's also right to be aghast at Carver's behaviour. I disagree. Kat's parents expressed criticism on several occasions, privately, to Annie, and to Tony. And Kat's dad is Tony's best friend. We've also seen Tony backpedal on everything so he must have got the message. Most of what Tony did was framed as wrong by the comic from the start. Renard was calling out Tony long before he even came back. Also a spurned lover and he was wrong about some things and not about others. Ysengrin was dismissive, but nobody expected that guy to understand the difference between a toxic relationship and a healthy one. To him Tony was never even a relevant value and all he wanted was for Annie to grow, if necessary in spite of him. Jones didn't say anything, I doubt she sees herself as someone who knows how father-daughter relationships should work, but who knows. Maybe she does have thoughts and we will end up hearing them. What other adults are there even in this comic? Apart from the evil Court officials who were hoping to use Tony to control Annie in the first place?
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Post by aline on Mar 25, 2021 7:29:48 GMT
So, sorry, but yes, her view is entirely through Eglamores lens. She is no doubt influenced by Eglamore's view of Tony, but she's also Annie's friend and saw firsthand the way Annie was treated. I don't want to make the 1000th list about everything Tony did wrong but it was not a good look. Her view isn't *entirely* through Eglamore's lens. It would be more accurate to say what he told her confirmed her already existing feelings about the dude. She cites "the way Eglamore talk about him [...]" and "hearing how he treats Annie pisses me off". Those are two separate reasons for why she doesn't like Tony.
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Post by aline on Mar 19, 2021 13:21:51 GMT
The last chapter was called "Find Yourself", which applies to both Zimmy and Annie. Annie found herself and I do believe she's as fine as she says.
Jones is probably just trying to understand what the heck is going on. Watching is what she does, and the Court possibly asked her to check on Annie.
Tony is probably unsure about his relationship with his daughter. In the previous chapter we saw that he had a different relationship with both Annies, and even when CourtAnnie tried to remove her make-up and dress like ForestAnnie, he still knew who she was and wasn't at ease with her like with ForestAnnie. Who knows what exactly he's thinking, but it's likely he doesn't know where to stand. He saw different things in both Annies, and only one of them was easier for him to connect to, so he has to come to terms with this change.
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Post by aline on Mar 19, 2021 13:12:51 GMT
Her haste struck me as if she was a manic-depressive shading over into mania, or else in one of those states you get in when you know that if you settled down you would inevitably reflect on things you don't want to think about. Hounded. Or maybe she's just happy to have one less worry on her mind, and to have come to terms with the memory of her late mother after struggling so long with conflicting feelings. Not everything has to be impending doom all the time. We already have Loup, Coyote's plan and the Court's "Omega" device brewing trouble. I don't think there's anything wrong with Annie right now.
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Post by aline on Mar 18, 2021 9:04:23 GMT
Loup was created from two different and already insane creatures of doom, one of whom was brain damaged and unstable. So the result was not terribly surprising.
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Post by aline on Mar 15, 2021 14:45:39 GMT
No, you're right, we've glossed over Kat's reaction when she discovers there's only one Annie now, as well as Annie's explanation of this to Kat. Kat took one look at her and said "...I understand"
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Post by aline on Mar 15, 2021 14:43:30 GMT
Hang on, is Siddell just outright skipping/glossing over a bunch of key scenes in which characters discuss the disappearance/merging of an important person in their lives? No seriously, imagine you know someone at school, your best mate in fact. Then their identical twin shows up. You get to know the twin for a couple of months then one day one of them just vanishes... Gone. Poof. I don't think I'd be out laughing and joking. I know, I know, story flow, conservation of detail, time-skips being an important convention in manga-inspired works. I get that. But it feels odd. But it wasn't an identical twin. She was one person, displaced in time. Now she's one person, not displaced in time. Nobody disappeared. It was Annie before and it's still Annie now. I think honestly Kat is the least likely to be disturbed by this, since she's doubtless the one who understand best the time mechanics involved of all the characters.
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Post by aline on Mar 10, 2021 14:08:45 GMT
We all gotta grow up sometime. TBH Annie had stopped using makeup for a while, and it seems only courtney regressed to needing it alongside with the pendant to feel attached to surma. She stopped using it the first time because she was ordered to by her dad, an arbitrary decision that was about him and not about her. Annie herself had no say in it. Court!Annie did not "regress to needing it" she demanded to get something back that was hers to begin with. It's good that she did. Otherwise the makeup decision would have been Anthony's decision and not Annie's decision, it would always have been about her dad's grief and not about Annie's grief. This time around she made a conscious decision. A very different thing.
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Post by aline on Mar 3, 2021 8:20:47 GMT
I wasn't expecting that
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Post by aline on Mar 2, 2021 6:53:57 GMT
I am reminded of the chapter "Divine", when Zimmy and Gamma not only saved Annie's life but also helped Kat feel less stressed about her brand new lesbian relationship.
It seems those two frequently undo those kind of knots in others, like particularly creepy guardian angels.
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Post by aline on Feb 8, 2021 8:50:29 GMT
I am really intrigued by the word "set" there. Is that implying someone was purposefully setting up that dark road for her? Fits with bicarbonat's speculation that that is Coyote's doing.
And of course, how the hell is Gamma aware of the future. Questions abound, but alas, an elf is here now. She's aware of it because Zimmy explained it to her, I think. And I think "set" here just means the path that would have been travelled without time breaking hijinks. Who knows what Coyote did, but I don't think he's responsible for all that happened, or that he could foresee all those consequences. He likes to play around and can wait a while for good conditions for a good game, but he's not a chess grandmaster who calculates every single think that might happen.
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Post by aline on Feb 8, 2021 8:44:33 GMT
Oh God. The timeline where Annie died really is The Darkest Timeline, isn't it. And who is ultimately the author of that timeline through this demise (and, by extension, Dark Avatar Kat)? On the face of it, we got a "lone gunman" who hijacked a robot body - but I'd imagine very little (if anything) happens in Gillitie without Coyote's allowance, especially where the Court and the space between is concerned. Annie's death would certainly have spelled outright/escalated hostility from the Court against the Forest upon discovery of the shadow man. Oh, and look what we ended up with in this timeline. Different road, still heading to Rome. Coyote's playing hard for chaos. The Court was already hostile at that point and planning something bad. In my opinion the reason they haven't done anything worse to the Forest at the time the comic starts wasn't because they didn't want to, but because they couldn't yet. Coyote is in their way. If he wasn't they'd burn the place down with or without Annie's death. The main difference in the dark timeline would be somebody with Kat's abilities being on the side of destruction. Think of all she can already do. Imagine that but with a drive for revenge.
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Post by aline on Feb 8, 2021 8:13:49 GMT
Oh God. The timeline where Annie died really is The Darkest Timeline, isn't it.
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Post by aline on Jan 18, 2021 13:17:30 GMT
Gamma is very relaxed about the whole thing. Almost to the point of... not caring? Or perhaps she's very confident that things will sort themselves out. Or rather, like to her it's just another Tuesday. And it probably is. This girl's life is... a lot. It's possible this time is different / worse than most and Gamma can't tell, we don't know how much she perceives when Zimmy's having a "moment". But as far as she's concerned, it seems this event is pretty much the same as every other time Zimmy distorted the space-time continuum. I love how she refers to the reality-distortion thing as "Zimmy being dramatic" XD
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Post by aline on Dec 7, 2020 9:14:47 GMT
I think Gamma's gone missing (because of Zimmy last chapter), and for two people that are mentally linked, that's a worry. She was also looking for Gamma back during the ship adventure (edit : in fact it was the time when Jack was trapped, during the Torn Sea it was Gamma who found Zimmy but then too they were separated). And we learned then that they have a place where they go to find each other, meaning this happens often. I think something similar to what happened on the ship is going on here. Someone is using Zimmy's abilities to distort reality, so as to provide good conditions for whatever the heck is going to happen next. Zimmy is there to allow reality alteration. The "omega device" or person is probably there to make the actual change, the way Kat was used during the Torn Sea. The robots who manipulated Zimmy back on the ship must have had access to some device of the Court. The Court wants to reshape the world in a way that will benefit them. Possibly erasing the Forest completely from existence.
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Post by aline on Nov 18, 2020 15:35:36 GMT
We've never really seen Zimmy like this. There isn't even a hint of Zimmingham in the background. It's as if she's somewhere else, or suffering so much that her surroundings are unimportant. I will bet anything that this isn't the accidental consequence of lack of rain, or a missing gamma or whatever. It's the Court's doing. We know they've been preparing something and this is the beginning.
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Post by aline on Oct 30, 2020 11:10:43 GMT
Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine! I think they're about 16 now but that's still well inside idiot teenager territory. I want to say you're right about the growth and learning, and I think it's actually taking in Annie's case. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but I'm just not sure Paz is feeling bad for the right reasons. Kat is probably being too light on her too but that may be due to the way Annie appears to be willing to let Paz off the hook. My bad, you're correct about the ages. Regarding why Kat is going easy on Paz, my thoughts: 1) Because Annie frankly wasn't too bothered about it (a little offended, but not really upset) 2) Because Kat herself feels partly responsible for Paz's outburst, what with the wall of miscommunication she built between them 3) Kat *was* on a dark road, and Annie *was* pretty oblivious and busy with other stuff, so even though her tone was questionable, Paz did send things in a positive direction. Even though she had no idea what was going on, because nobody tells her anything. Who knows how it would have ended if she hadn't been the missing link? The norns said Kat was younger than usual. Is that because Paz wasn't around the other times, and she wallowed deeper in her anxieties for years? Not to say it excuses everything, she said some mean things that she now gets to regret, but hey. Sometimes you can just say water under the bridge, and let it go. I doubt Paz is about to do this again.
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Post by aline on Oct 30, 2020 8:24:54 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine!
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Post by aline on Jul 31, 2020 11:49:39 GMT
I understand why Anja is confident that the Norns will be willing to see Kat. I don't understand why Brinnie understood so quickly and zammed to contact the Norns. Brinnie could tell Annie was shifted, but no one told her about Kat and the Tic Toc. Did Brinnie see more of Kat than was obvious to us the readers? I don't think Brinnie knows what is going on. She just trusts that Anja knows what she's doing. A friend makes a simple but extraordinary request, you don't need to sit there and demand they justify the request. It's reasonable to assume this conversation wouldn't be happening if Anja didn't have good reasons.
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Post by aline on Jul 27, 2020 9:19:02 GMT
That's a surprisingly subdued response, Brinnie. Did you just want to avoid making a scene in front of an old friend, or were there other reasons? Adults don't rant about relationships when the underage product of said relationship is right under their nose. I believe Brinnie would have many questions and expletives if she were alone with Anja. Also she got such a warning glare from the Annies I'm sure Annie remembers very well Donnie's story about Brinnie's crush on her dad.
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Post by aline on Jul 24, 2020 15:57:02 GMT
Haha! Brinnie needs an update on the latest gossip, I see
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Post by aline on Jul 21, 2020 7:54:34 GMT
(Why didn't it save it, ugh. Runningflame said, Interestingly, Coyote did notice that Annie was younger, but still thought she was Surma.) That... is an important thing to say, given the current timey-wimey shenanigans, and the fact that we know Coyote knew about her lineage and the implications thereof. Annie had already fallen from the bridge at this point. It's possible he saw she was "time displaced" at the time, and assumed she was a Surma from the past. Then again, given HE can manipulate time at will, maybe to him it is so easily bent that a younger Surma wasn't unlikely in any way even without additional information.
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Post by aline on Jul 20, 2020 6:14:20 GMT
Brinnie knows Surma isn't 14 anymore. She probably was there when Surma aged past 14. She might go on a typical "you look so much like your mother" speech, and she might be surprised and sad to find Surma had a child and died. But there's no reason for her to think Annie is Surma. But then, you would think Renard should know Surma isn't 12 anymore, and yet... (Possibly explained by the fact that mythical dog creatures aren't that good with human things. Interestingly, Coyote did notice that Annie was younger, but still thought she was Surma.) True, and I think seen from the ether it does look like Annie is her mom due to the fire elemental. But Brinnie has lived in the Court. She understands better how humans work and Surma was a close friend (not someone who visited for diplomatic relations, but someone she had lunch and maths exams with). I think she'll tell her friend from her teenage daughter apart. I wonder what she'll think of the time displacement, though. Like, will she look at the Annies and think "this girl is dead"?
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Post by aline on Jul 19, 2020 18:23:27 GMT
I'm going to guess that Brinnie will just outright confuse Annie for Surma. And then do a double take when she realizes that there are two Surmas. Brinnie knows Surma isn't 14 anymore. She probably was there when Surma aged past 14. She might go on a typical "you look so much like your mother" speech, and she might be surprised and sad to find Surma had a child and died. But there's no reason for her to think Annie is Surma.
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Post by aline on Jul 17, 2020 7:49:22 GMT
Oh, wow, she's grown up!
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Post by aline on Jul 13, 2020 8:08:35 GMT
Wow, are we finally going to see Brinnie in a non-flashback scene? A lot of things tying up together!
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Post by aline on Jul 10, 2020 7:08:28 GMT
And that's why Anja was the right person to go to. She's able to think about this from both the scientific and the etheric angle, unlike 99% of the court.
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