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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:00:16 GMT
And now, what we've all been waiting for...Jeez, Tony, you ain't looking so good. I think it's an illusion of some sort, or perhaps some facet of the elemental. There's just too much evidence and corroboration of facts contrary to Tony's account for me to believe yet that Surma was back for real. Also, Trism has pointed out the scar, which seems to prove that this is not purely Surma, at the very least.
I'm irritated by the lack of good thread titles from today's page...
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 17, 2015 7:01:54 GMT
Oh no.
Everything is worse.
If he is seeing (at least an aspect of) Surma, it's happening at Annie's direct expense, and then from Tony's point of view he's suddenly walloped on the face by some scary girl telling him the punch is from his daughter.
If he's just that got-dang delusional or the etheric things are messing with his mind, then the above plus the fact that it was all fake.
Save me from this glass case of emotion!
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Post by edzepp on Aug 17, 2015 7:01:36 GMT
And then he got punched in the face!
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Post by Trism on Aug 17, 2015 7:01:59 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar.
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Post by gunnerwf on Aug 17, 2015 7:02:58 GMT
Notice the scar, I don't think that's Surma, plus the light kind of looks like the fire elemental.
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Post by edzepp on Aug 17, 2015 7:02:59 GMT
Oh shoot, I did not see the scar.
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Post by corruptuser on Aug 17, 2015 7:03:21 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar. It hasn't healed over. It's still an open wound, somehow. Still haven't figure out what it means though, after all these chapters. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:03:19 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar. It's...something in between, perhaps? The spirit of the Elemental, appearing to him as his wife? If that's what it is, did Jeanne's sword damage Annie and all of her previous selves to the core? |
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Post by temeritee on Aug 17, 2015 7:03:43 GMT
So it seems Tony's face was messed up before Zimmy's punch...
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Post by ed1300 on Aug 17, 2015 7:03:52 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar. To quote many a last man's word before their untimely demise: Oops. |
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Post by stef1987 on Aug 17, 2015 7:05:40 GMT
does anyone know what any of the symbols mean?
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:05:40 GMT
So it seems Tony's face was messed up before Zimmy's punch... It seems that he does not have his mouth scar yet, however - though it may just be how Tom's been drawing him in the last few pages. |
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Post by gunnerwf on Aug 17, 2015 7:06:19 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar. It's...something in between, perhaps? The spirit of the Elemental, appearing to him as his wife? If that's what it is, did Jeanne's sword damage Annie and all of her previous selves to the core? I think it was more his imagination really |
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 17, 2015 7:08:02 GMT
Also with Tony's forehead, I hope those are just some grimy hairs, or are those some seriously janked looking veins?
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 17, 2015 7:10:33 GMT
His new friends seem to be watching with him.
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Post by ed1300 on Aug 17, 2015 7:11:09 GMT
Thats not Surma sadly, that's Annie's scar. It's...something in between, perhaps? The spirit of the Elemental, appearing to him as his wife? If that's what it is, did Jeanne's sword damage Annie and all of her previous selves to the core? Well yeah, her sword can kill psychopomp's, a scar on a fire elemental soul/core/internal fire would be easy. Remember Jeanne was converted into a guardian designed to prevent anything from crossing the Annan Waters, from creatures to the more exotic life that exists in the forest (the mind wasp). Diego may have been a monster in creating it but between it's creations killing power and the damage to the RotD the Arrow is an amazing piece of tech. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:11:34 GMT
does anyone know what any of the symbols mean? I assume it's an alchemy symbol. I'm no student of alchemy lore, and Tom tends to be a little loose on his symbology, but it looks very similar to an inverted version of arsenic:  Also: ...Anthony's symbol (my vote is for Arsenic or Magnesium, for the record, if he's represented by an element). 4 months ahead is a decent prediction, even on a small thing like this  (Source.) |
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Post by The Anarch on Aug 17, 2015 7:14:37 GMT
Tony, you're going full Altered States.
Never go full Altered States.
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Post by scalesandfins on Aug 17, 2015 7:14:24 GMT
"It extended, reached out, pulled her back..."
Anthony's buddies look awfully eager with their open mouths in the background here. Did he just get tricked by a bunch of demons into procuring a fire elemental's soul for them to eat?
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Post by krael on Aug 17, 2015 7:15:59 GMT
Tom... Tony's right hand is gone, but the severed hand thing looks distinctly like a left hand!
Something sinister is going on.
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 17, 2015 7:16:46 GMT
His new friends seem to be watching with him. I just can't not see those things as bad news now. |
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Post by justcurious on Aug 17, 2015 7:16:48 GMT
Another beautiful piece of art from Tom.
The poor fool. If he thought Annie acted to break the link his bitterness towards her is not surprising.
Could this be the bit of Surma that passed on masking the elemental part of Annie. And perhaps his wishes affecting his perceptions as well.
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:18:25 GMT
Tom... Tony's right hand is gone, but the severed hand thing looks distinctly like a left hand! Something sinister is going on. Oh, jeez...Um, let's hope there's a story reason for that. Maybe his fingers are bending backwards? I can't unsee it now. Thanks. |
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Post by arf on Aug 17, 2015 7:19:24 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that Surma *is* Annie's elemental, and that Annie and the fire will be having a little chat about this, soon.
If Tony misinterprets what happened in Divine as Annie punching him and yelling "...Dad's a jerk!", it would partially explain his emotional distance.
Speaking of jerks, I'm keeping an open mind as to Coyote's involvement in all this. (Current thought: not his style)
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Post by Kya on Aug 17, 2015 7:26:15 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that Surma *is* Annie's elemental, and that Annie and the fire will be having a little chat about this, soon. If Tony misinterprets what happened in Divine as Annie punching him and yelling "...Dad's a jerk!", it would partially explain his emotional distance. Speaking of jerks, I'm keeping an open mind as to Coyote's involvement in all this. (Current thought: not his style) I'm of the theory that Annie, Surma, and all that came before them are the same person. A fire elemental soul perpetually semi-reincarnating over and over. |
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Post by arf on Aug 17, 2015 7:30:13 GMT
Tom... Tony's right hand is gone, but the severed hand thing looks distinctly like a left hand! Something sinister is going on. Oh, jeez...Um, let's hope there's a story reason for that. Maybe his fingers are bending backwards? I can't unsee it now. Thanks. Trigger Warning: A topological hypothesis. Maybe the hand was turned inside out? (thereby right -> left. It certainly looks a bit anatomical)
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Post by justcurious on Aug 17, 2015 7:31:51 GMT
I think that in as he thought pulling Surma towards him he pulled the part of Annie that was also a part of Surma to where it should not have been, not if Annie was to remain conscious.
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Post by darththulhu on Aug 17, 2015 7:35:15 GMT
OK. Definitely more horrifying to make actual contact with Surma than to not make contact with Surma. More horrifying still if she had anything to say before Dragon-Punch severed the link.
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2015 7:35:24 GMT
Trigger Warning: A topological hypothesis. I shudder to think of the situation that would cause someone to be triggered by that, heh... I think that in as he thought pulling Surma towards him he pulled the part of Annie that was also a part of Surma to where it should not have been, not if Annie was to remain conscious. ...Pardon? |
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Post by sherni on Aug 17, 2015 7:35:52 GMT
Oh. My...
This page is beautiful and touching and sad and absolutely terrifying in equal measures. The look of pure joy in Anthony's face is heartbreaking. Especially given what happens next. And what in fact is actually happening. Which I'm pretty sure isn't at all what Anthony thinks is happening at all!
So either this isn't Surma at all, but some manner of illusion (or delusion), or even worse- it IS Surma, but Annie's spirit (it is Annie's now) is being used to bring her back, and the mark is there because the spirit was permanently scarred by Jeanne. Either way, Annie was having a very deadly out of body experience.
I have to wonder if Anthony really understood the cause of Surma's death. He doesn't seem to realise here that the cost of Surma coming back will be Annie's death- or at least, something close to it. Maybe it hasn't hit him yet. Or maybe... he really doesn't care? I hope not.
The symbols on the left look a bit like the Hindi letter for 'Kuh'. I don't think that's it, though.
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