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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 4, 2013 8:53:13 GMT
There's... There's more than one? I need to go rethink my entire life. Also, there is still a emergency box full of Corgis somewhere. How about shibe? >wow >so sadness >much heartbroken >very upset
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 4, 2013 8:54:19 GMT
Okay, this is very sad. But at the very least explains why Annie ran away. Also, makes me remember this. On the positive note, we were given Annie's reaction, sort of, in midweek! Okay, I understand if that didn't make you precisely happy. So, about the reaction... I suppose we can count out "cake and threesome". She's sad. That is for sure. So, I'd say she's sad for feeling a loss of Kat, either as the best friend or as a potential lover. We'll see. I hope for the former, for merely story technical reasons, because I don't want to see this getting too much about teenage romances. Just not something I'm enthusiastic to read about.
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Post by Xan on Dec 4, 2013 8:54:51 GMT
There's... There's more than one? I need to go rethink my entire life. Also, there is still a emergency box full of Corgis somewhere. There's this, too:
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Post by philman on Dec 4, 2013 8:54:52 GMT
I wonder why she's not in the room instead. Maybe she just doesn't want to get in trouble. I think that, if the tree represents Kat, then Annie's feeling locked out now. As to who's shoulder turns up on friday*, my predictions are Jack, Mort, Zimmy, Kat, farmer, or flashback. *For the benefit of whoever it is, there should be a sign saying "Flammable. Handle with care." farmer? He has a name you know! (that name being "Bob") Also I would guess Mort, but do we ever see him roaming outside his room? Anyway, I'm going for Red and the disasters that will bring...
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 4, 2013 8:55:24 GMT
I wonder why she's not in the room instead. Maybe she just doesn't want to get in trouble. I think that, if the tree represents Kat, then Annie's feeling locked out now. As to who's shoulder turns up on friday*, my predictions are Jack, Mort, Zimmy, Kat, farmer, or flashback. *For the benefit of whoever it is, there should be a sign saying "Flammable. Handle with care." Okay, just so it's on record, knowing full well who makes this comic, I will cautiously venture that Mort shows up soon.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 8:57:58 GMT
I wonder if she's slumped over because she's sad, or she fell asleep in the hours since running off? Might the next page's camera pan over to the side to reveal Random Confused Robot and/or Faculty standing there? Edit: or aforementioned people. Mort would be awesomeness.
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Post by Tacdud2 on Dec 4, 2013 9:01:04 GMT
Okay, this is very sad. But at the very least explains why Annie ran away. I dunno, it doesn't really explain anything IMO, it just kinda suggest what people were already thinking, that it feels to Annie like she's losing her friend or something I guess. Hmm. Well now to wait for Wednesday. you mean friday, right? Yes I do... This is what happens when I take to much cough medicine at 2 in the morning.
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Post by spritznar on Dec 4, 2013 9:01:44 GMT
Also, there is still a emergency box full of Corgis somewhere. There's this, too: this one's not in a box, but i mean...
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Post by stef1987 on Dec 4, 2013 9:05:26 GMT
Oh My G, ADOWABLE
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Post by Toloc on Dec 4, 2013 9:06:51 GMT
The place makes sense. It was where Annie finally broke down after her mother's death and told Kat about her father's disappearance. I'd chance a guess and say this isn't about homophobia, but about Annie's abandonment issues. Her mum died, her father left and now Kat has someone else who in Annie's eyes is or becomes more important to Kat than her. To add insult to injury Kat didn't even trust her enough to tell her. Also: I think I'm a Senior Member now.
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Post by fishtie on Dec 4, 2013 9:07:56 GMT
Is it just me, or does anyone else find themselves reading "Here she is. There is where Annie was. Right here." with an unavoidable exasperated tone.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 9:14:52 GMT
Is it just me, or does anyone else find themselves reading "Here she is. There is where Annie was. Right here." with an unavoidable exasperated tone. I kind of read it in Jeremy Clarkson's voice. Not quite exasperated, but maybe impatient? "Meanwhile, Annie decided that now would be a good time to fall asleep. Against a door."
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Post by arf on Dec 4, 2013 9:43:56 GMT
Also: I think I'm a Senior Member now. Your avatar is looking worriedly at stars thinking 'can I count?'
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Post by philman on Dec 4, 2013 9:44:24 GMT
I like that idea. Also, given Kat was consoled by Rey, who is bound to Annie, perhaps we will see Robot come to speak to Annie, as he is the prophet of Kat.
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Post by KMar on Dec 4, 2013 9:55:40 GMT
I wonder if she's slumped over because she's sad, or she fell asleep in the hours since running off? Might the next page's camera pan over to the side to reveal Random Confused Robot and/or Faculty standing there? Edit: or aforementioned people. Mort would be awesomeness. Asleep? I initial impression was that she is talking to somebody etherically (or then I could be overinterpreting, I tend to do that.)
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Post by freeformline on Dec 4, 2013 10:08:40 GMT
I wonder if she's slumped over because she's sad, or she fell asleep in the hours since running off? Might the next page's camera pan over to the side to reveal Random Confused Robot and/or Faculty standing there? Edit: or aforementioned people. Mort would be awesomeness. Asleep? I initial impression was that she is talking to somebody etherically (or then I could be overinterpreting, I tend to do that.) If that is the tree grown from Robot's new arm (from Ysengrin), that may be possible. I think she's just occupied with being sad (as addressed by Toloc), but that's a cool idea.
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Post by The Anarch on Dec 4, 2013 10:11:44 GMT
I want to say Jones, but I miss Mort. Jones could show up and there would still be lonely pages without dialogue. She's Jones, after all.
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Post by asyetunnamed on Dec 4, 2013 10:42:13 GMT
I like the transition from the Kat/Reynard section, but it is quite sad seeing Annie all alone there. The only saving grace is that there is no "end of chapter" sign in the corner. It would have been a fitting, soul crushing and incredibly cruel end to this arc.
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 4, 2013 10:49:53 GMT
That's so sad! But we still can't see her face clearly! And to think of it, isn't that a waste of space keeping only a tree in such a big room?
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Post by Gulby on Dec 4, 2013 11:21:18 GMT
I too thought it could be the grown Ysengrin's gift arm to Robot, but I just compared to the cherry tree and it seems it is the same tree : This week [1284]The cherry tree [85]Maybe she's etherically (?) spying on Rey and Kat ? Or maybe with someone else who could help her ? Or maybe Rey is now looking for her in the ether and will soon find her, and tell Kat where she is ? Seeing Antimony's face on this page make me believe that she's not upset at all by the girlxgirl thing, but so much more about the friendship, yeah. She might be convinced that now that Kat as a girlfriend for real (and not just an impossible love (Eglamore/lil'girl, bird-boy/human, psychopomp/human...)), maybe she will become "useless". I hope she will understand that Kat loves her (in a friendly way) no matter what, and that she always can put her mask aside when she's with her. I'm waiting for the next panel !!!
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Post by todd on Dec 4, 2013 11:46:39 GMT
I'd chance a guess and say this isn't about homophobia, but about Annie's abandonment issues. Her mum died, her father left and now Kat has someone else who in Annie's eyes is or becomes more important to Kat than her. To add insult to injury Kat didn't even trust her enough to tell her. I agree that it's most likely not about homophobia, but about the fear that Kat will see Paz as her new best friend and spend more time with her than with Annie. (Kat made it all the easier to bring Annie to that conclusion by deciding to go on kissing Paz rather than rush over to Annie - and then spend who-knows-how-long thinking about the kiss before realizing that she'd forgotten Annie.)
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Post by keef on Dec 4, 2013 12:24:02 GMT
Great page after all that talk, although I really hoped to see her in the cherry tree. That sums it all up. Congratulations. Of course you will be instructed on your new responsibilities soon. (trollhunting etc)
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Post by lit on Dec 4, 2013 12:33:33 GMT
I guess she was not willing to stop by Renard's and ask for her lockpicks?
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 4, 2013 13:30:25 GMT
Your link gives us the following quote: "You're a good friend, Kat. You're the only person I have left in the world." Hmm... that might have affected her reaction.
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Post by flowsthead on Dec 4, 2013 13:34:47 GMT
I'm interpreting it a little differently. I think it's possible Annie wanted to be found by Kat. This was a big moment for them together, so even though Annie is feeling abandoned, she didn't run off to someplace new to be alone; she went to the place of her happiest memory with Kat. Part of Annie must hope that Kat will look for her and find her here, and I think it's interesting that Kat hasn't checked her yet. Annie must find that pretty disappointing.
It's still really sad, but in a different way. Annie can be obtuse sometimes and not the best socially, so this is another example of her awkwardness. She wants to know Kat still loves her (as a friend) so the way she wants to test this is to see if Kat can find her at their most meaningful place.
Well, just a theory anyway.
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Post by KartoffelnMcNugget on Dec 4, 2013 13:42:26 GMT
Also, there is still a emergency box full of Corgis somewhere. There's this, too: SEND MY MINIONS THEN
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Post by Maeniel on Dec 4, 2013 14:12:12 GMT
I think that, if the tree represents Kat, then Annie's feeling locked out now. As to who's shoulder turns up on friday*, my predictions are Jack, Mort, Zimmy, Kat, farmer, or flashback. *For the benefit of whoever it is, there should be a sign saying "Flammable. Handle with care." farmer? He has a name you know! (that name being "Bob") Also I would guess Mort, but do we ever see him roaming outside his room? Anyway, I'm going for Red and the disasters that will bring... I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's going to be Eglamore or Mort. That, or a robot finds her and starts wailing BOOP-BEEP-BOOP FOUND HER SHE IS RIGHT HERE BOOP
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 4, 2013 14:36:41 GMT
Ok, so just how many people called this? I wonder why she's not in the room instead. Maybe she just doesn't want to get in trouble. She didn't really get into trouble last time. [ 606] gunnerkrigg.proboards.com/post/90822/threadI called it (though I was not the first one).
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Post by snipertom on Dec 4, 2013 14:38:22 GMT
The place makes sense. It was where Annie finally broke down after her mother's death and told Kat about her father's disappearance. I'd chance a guess and say this isn't about homophobia, but about Annie's abandonment issues. Her mum died, her father left and now Kat has someone else who in Annie's eyes is or becomes more important to Kat than her. To add insult to injury Kat didn't even trust her enough to tell her. Also: I think I'm a Senior Member now. I kept trying to write a post to that effect over the last few weeks but kinda failed. I guess I'd been doing some rereading (actually before this chapter) and just realised (at the time of rereading) just how ... brittle Annie is. The first real sign of it I guess being when she's up on the roof and is like "haha what are they going to do? TELL MY PARENTS?! AHAHA". . Which, when you think about it is kind of ... disturbing, in that it's an indication of how much pain she is in. (Not long after returning from the forest, which was just after learning that her mother died because of her, and I guess being really hurt by Rey who she is close to; and I guess also not long after Kat was being really standoffish and weird and upset). Then Jack rejects her for Zimmy. And not long after that was the phone call from her father where he really just used her to get a code across and get some scalpels (at least from her perspective). Then Ysengrin who she cares about deeply attacked her. And the court rejected her by not choosing her as medium. She does have friends other than Kat, like Parley and Smitty. But they've just hooked up, I guess. She has Rey and Ys but probably feels awkward at times around them. Shadow and Robot are her other good friends and THEY are a sort of couple too. Is Jack her friend? Who knows? I can't imagine that's anything other than awkward. Zimmy and Gamma of course have always been a weird co-dependent couple. So I guess that does really just leave Mort? Who is described as a "boy", yet has "Dulce et Decorum est [pro patria mori]" ( www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=60 ) associated with him, which translates as "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country" from Horace's Odes and in context is an exhortation for men to take up arms to terrify the enemies of Rome. It is used, sarcastically (ironically?) as the title of the poem "Dulce et Decorum est" by Wilfred Owen, one of my favourite poems, denouncing World War One (in which Owen fought) and describing a mustard gas attack. Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime... Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. Many 'underage' soldiers who lied about their age signed up to WW1 in particular. It was a pretty shitty, horrible war, with chemical weapons and many casualties and really no 'good' side. I guess the other horror of that war was also the one that caused more casualties than even the war itself- the Spanish Influenza. Returning troops brought it home to every corner of the world; it had an incredibly high death rate, a severe strain of flu, also in a time before antibiotics to treat bacterial pneumonia complicating it. So I've always assumed that Mort was a soldier who died in the war or shortly after it, prematurely. It may also explain some of his inexperience with talking to girls. Back to Annie, I think if she was in her right mind (ie not depressed which I think she will become), she would be just weirded out or a little pissed off. However in this context it would probably be crushing. And probably nothing to do with any sort of romantic interest (though I guess we haven't ruled out her feelings conclusively, I just doubt that she is secretly in love with Kat).
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Post by thedoctor on Dec 4, 2013 14:44:26 GMT
The place makes sense. It was where Annie finally broke down after her mother's death and told Kat about her father's disappearance. I'd chance a guess and say this isn't about homophobia, but about Annie's abandonment issues. Her mum died, her father left and now Kat has someone else who in Annie's eyes is or becomes more important to Kat than her. To add insult to injury Kat didn't even trust her enough to tell her. Also: I think I'm a Senior Member now. I kept trying to write a post to that effect over the last few weeks but kinda failed. I guess I'd been doing some rereading (actually before this chapter) and just realised (at the time of rereading) just how ... brittle Annie is. The first real sign of it I guess being when she's up on the roof and is like "haha what are they going to do? TELL MY PARENTS?! AHAHA". . Which, when you think about it is kind of ... disturbing, in that it's an indication of how much pain she is in. (Not long after returning from the forest, which was just after learning that her mother died because of her, and I guess being really hurt by Rey who she is close to; and I guess also not long after Kat was being really standoffish and weird and upset). Then Jack rejects her for Zimmy. And not long after that was the phone call from her father where he really just used her to get a code across and get some scalpels (at least from her perspective). Then Ysengrin who she cares about deeply attacked her. And the court rejected her by not choosing her as medium. She does have friends other than Kat, like Parley and Smitty. But they've just hooked up, I guess. She has Rey and Ys but probably feels awkward at times around them. Shadow and Robot are her other good friends and THEY are a sort of couple too. Is Jack her friend? Who knows? I can't imagine that's anything other than awkward. Zimmy and Gamma of course have always been a weird co-dependent couple. So I guess that does really just leave Mort? Who is described as a "boy", yet has "Dulce et Decorum est [pro patria mori]" ( www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=60 ) associated with him, which translates as "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country" from Horace's Odes and in context is an exhortation for men to take up arms to terrify the enemies of Rome. It is used, sarcastically (ironically?) as the title of the poem "Dulce et Decorum est" by Wilfred Owen, one of my favourite poems, denouncing World War One (in which Owen fought) and describing a mustard gas attack. Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs And towards our distant rest began to trudge. Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind; Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind. Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling, Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time; But someone still was yelling out and stumbling, And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime... Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light, As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. In all my dreams, before my helpless sight, He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. If in some smothering dreams you too could pace Behind the wagon that we flung him in, And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin; If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. Many 'underage' soldiers who lied about their age signed up to WW1 in particular. It was a pretty shitty, horrible war, with chemical weapons and many casualties and really no 'good' side. I guess the other horror of that war was also the one that caused more casualties than even the war itself- the Spanish Influenza. Returning troops brought it home to every corner of the world; it had an incredibly high death rate, a severe strain of flu, also in a time before antibiotics to treat bacterial pneumonia complicating it. So I've always assumed that Mort was a soldier who died in the war or shortly after it, prematurely. It may also explain some of his inexperience with talking to girls. Back to Annie, I think if she was in her right mind (ie not depressed which I think she will become), she would be just weirded out or a little pissed off. However in this context it would probably be crushing. And probably nothing to do with any sort of romantic interest (though I guess we haven't ruled out her feelings conclusively, I just doubt that she is secretly in love with Kat). I like this; it is pretty, in a bittersweet kind of way.
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