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Post by alexh on Oct 17, 2012 9:13:48 GMT
Ok, I swear, this is the last I'm bringing this up. I feel bad because none of this could possibly be true. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=404Here, our heroes, while also talking about Robo Jones, also bring up a "cursed teapot." Tom, at the bottom of the page, brings up Chapter 12a. While we don't know what that's about, the closest we do have to 12a is the Title Page for Chapter 12. On it, there is the admin bot, with rather "muscle (406)"-like appendages. I checked the forum for this Title Page and guess what gets brought up for the first time? Time Travel. (This is where Tom gets the idea?) gunnerkrigg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=44And finally, Kat created (or helped with?) Diego's code, essentially becoming the actual God/Angel that the robots see in her. (another time paradox, yay) And all of the time-paradoxes would explain why no one has an easy time explaining Jones's existence. (She shouldn't exist!) I am wrong on all accounts, but this was fun!
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 9:14:27 GMT
I'm obsessed with the theory of Jones being an alchemist I rather liked the idea, that she's the byproduct of alchemy (The Stone). It'd be awfully interesting, for her to be made from some kind of living gold. I like that. The connection with her as an alchemist, her being made from a kinda living gold, and the Philosopher's Stone. Perhaps her hair is some sort of significant clue as well, since it's a goldish color. Also, in this page she is cut, yet we never see a scar or a trace that it had ever happened later on. Perhaps self-healing? And notice the light shining from her cheek. Maybe something significant?
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Post by jasmijn on Oct 17, 2012 13:14:28 GMT
So Samuel Langdon was a pirate from a very young age.
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Post by smjjames on Oct 17, 2012 13:51:03 GMT
I rather liked the idea, that she's the byproduct of alchemy (The Stone). It'd be awfully interesting, for her to be made from some kind of living gold. I like that. The connection with her as an alchemist, her being made from a kinda living gold, and the Philosopher's Stone. Perhaps her hair is some sort of significant clue as well, since it's a goldish color. Also, in this page she is cut, yet we never see a scar or a trace that it had ever happened later on. Perhaps self-healing? And notice the light shining from her cheek. Maybe something significant? The living gold thing could be a great theory, especially given that gold is legendary for never tarnishing, in fact, gold ornaments from thousands of years ago shine like they were new. Also, if we don't go to Boyle or something next, will we see her on the Mayflower next? This page is definetly sometime in the 1700's, probably before the revolutionary war. Unless maybe she left the Americas to avoid the witch hunting stuff that happened in the 1600's.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 14:04:34 GMT
I like that. The connection with her as an alchemist, her being made from a kinda living gold, and the Philosopher's Stone. Perhaps her hair is some sort of significant clue as well, since it's a goldish color. Also, in this page she is cut, yet we never see a scar or a trace that it had ever happened later on. Perhaps self-healing? And notice the light shining from her cheek. Maybe something significant? The living gold thing could be a great theory, especially given that gold is legendary for never tarnishing, in fact, gold ornaments from thousands of years ago shine like they were new. "never tarnishing" ... "shine like they were new" = An indication of how Jones has remained unaged? :O
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Post by Dvandaemon on Oct 17, 2012 14:20:12 GMT
I kind of chuckled a bit at the thought that we probably wouldn't recognize the child for who he is were it not for the eyepatch. I rather liked the idea, that she's the byproduct of alchemy (The Stone). It'd be awfully interesting, for her to be made from some kind of living gold. I like that. The connection with her as an alchemist, her being made from a kinda living gold, and the Philosopher's Stone. Perhaps her hair is some sort of significant clue as well, since it's a goldish color. Also, in this page she is cut, yet we never see a scar or a trace that it had ever happened later on. Perhaps self-healing? And notice the light shining from her cheek. Maybe something significant? That's not the sound of flesh being cut though. That's the sound of metal hitting something durable and bouncing off. The light is most likely to show impact and the sword bouncing off.
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Post by q3 on Oct 17, 2012 14:38:45 GMT
Stalks young children? Even into adulthood? Many assumed names? True name unknown? No facial expressions?
Jones is Slenderman.
(Ms. Slenderman? Slendergirl? Slenderlady? Doesthisdressmakemelookfatman?)
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Post by crater on Oct 17, 2012 15:07:31 GMT
maybe Jones is like some sort of life long parasite or succubus. Once she sets her eye on you, you are hers for life; which doesn't seem all that bad?
But anyways that's why coyote says she "steals" names.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 15:14:40 GMT
Stalks young children? Even into adulthood? Many assumed names? True name unknown? No facial expressions? Jones is Slenderman. (Ms. Slenderman? Slendergirl? Slenderlady? Doesthisdressmakemelookfatman?) Hahaha! Don't forget that they've both been around for many years and both dress formally. :D
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Post by thatkid on Oct 17, 2012 16:40:35 GMT
I'm gonna repeat myself yet again: She's a time traveler.
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Post by rinabean on Oct 17, 2012 17:22:17 GMT
Yeah... but I get it that if they would be related, Donny would not know about it. So, it is "Uncle Jimmy" as a friend of her parents. At least in some cultures it is normal that when you are a little kid, the non-family adults are always called "uncles" and "aunts". Don't know about aunts in England, but uncle, I'm pretty sure is a normal wording for, say, the fathers of your friends and school mates when you are just a kid. Somebody English might correct me if I'm wrong. (As an englishman) I think it is more likely that since Jimmy and Donny were brought up together they are very close, and consider each other like brothers, hence the uncle Jimmy. I don't think it is that common to call unrelated people uncle or aunt unless they are very very close family friends. In my experience it could be either. I had lots of 'aunties' and 'uncles' growing up, and they were all types of family friends, not just especially close ones. It wasn't just my family, either. Could depend on where you are in England - maybe it's just a West Midlands thing?
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 17, 2012 17:59:35 GMT
Master Langdon: swagged from birth
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 18:12:18 GMT
Master Langdon: swagged from birth Hehe, born with an eyepatch?! That's pretty awesome.
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Post by blahzor on Oct 17, 2012 18:48:07 GMT
You know, it's been 50 strips since we've seen Kat. It could be possible that Tom wanted us to not think of her whilst showing us her ancestors? (Again, probably not) EDIT: Well, Kat mentioned that she used to call Elgamore "Uncle Jimmy". Perhaps not related, but considered "family." Ah, nice catch! And from a story telling perspective, is there any other reason for that page to be there..? it peaks my interest that i never notice, she stretched out and it looks like it's for her dad, but the next panel shows they wanted Jimmy.
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Post by karakai on Oct 17, 2012 19:57:25 GMT
You know, it's been 50 strips since we've seen Kat. It could be possible that Tom wanted us to not think of her whilst showing us her ancestors? (Again, probably not) EDIT: Ah, nice catch! And from a story telling perspective, is there any other reason for that page to be there..? it peaks my interest that i never notice, she stretched out and it looks like it's for her dad, but the next panel shows they wanted Jimmy. If 'Uncle Jimmy' was around her her whole life I'm not surprised. I live with my brother and his family (to include 2 kids) and my youngest nephew (who just recently turned 2) grew up with me living there. Yesterday when he accidentally smooshed his fingers between the patio bricks and a piece of CMU he'd picked up (causing him to scream like a banshee :[ ) He actually wanted me to hold and coddle him as opposed to his Momma. You almost end up being like an extra parent. And if Jimmy and Don were that close, then yea I can totally see that happening in their case :]
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Post by Georgie L on Oct 17, 2012 20:12:44 GMT
Well, Kat mentioned that she used to call Elgamore "Uncle Jimmy". Perhaps not related, but considered "family." Yeah... but I get it that if they would be related, Donny would not know about it. So, it is "Uncle Jimmy" as a friend of her parents. At least in some cultures it is normal that when you are a little kid, the non-family adults are always called "uncles" and "aunts". Don't know about aunts in England, but uncle, I'm pretty sure is a normal wording for, say, the fathers of your friends and school mates when you are just a kid. Somebody English might correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the trend started in england, when extended families including friends were very common. It depends on the family, if the friendship prior to the child was like brothers/sisters then it'd feel natural to introduce them to the child as family so that they trust them. If the friendship was merely friends but not close they'd just be the family friend.
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 17, 2012 20:33:11 GMT
You know, it's been 50 strips since we've seen Kat. It could be possible that Tom wanted us to not think of her whilst showing us her ancestors? (Again, probably not) EDIT: Ah, nice catch! And from a story telling perspective, is there any other reason for that page to be there..? it peaks my interest that i never notice, she stretched out and it looks like it's for her dad, but the next panel shows they wanted Jimmy. hmmm... there's a good chance that the part in which she kisses her dad good night just isn't shown.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 20:55:02 GMT
it peaks my interest that i never notice, she stretched out and it looks like it's for her dad, but the next panel shows they wanted Jimmy. hmmm... there's a good chance that the part in which she kisses her dad good night just isn't shown. Agreed. I mean, there's nowhere in the webcomic that indicates that she resents her dad or has "daddy issues" or prefers Eglamore over her father. This is Kat; she fancies Eglamore. So, naturally, if you've got your crush standing next to your father, you'd reach for your crush instead, hehehe. Maybe Tom was just running out of space to draw Kat hugging Donald as she did with Anja.
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Post by snuffa on Oct 17, 2012 21:04:44 GMT
Especially since Master Samuel is assumed not to have any children anyway, right? This line got me to think of a really creepy theory: Langdon didn't have children, looks like Edward Jones neither, and at that rate Eglamore is also not gonna get any kids. One might say that Jones just latches onto those men who are to remain childless, but in case of Eglamore it really seems as if she played a role in making sure him and Surma wouldn't get together. Makes you wonder if having such a lifelong female companion is as great as it may seem...
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Post by 123456789blaaa on Oct 17, 2012 22:17:35 GMT
From the Gitp forums by SomeBloke:
"Antimony: Jones, what are you?
Jones. I'm...well, I'm an immortal gold-digger, if you must ask. Antimony: ... Jones: ... Antimony: Well, at least everyone can say that they didn't see it coming."
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Post by baf on Oct 17, 2012 22:48:06 GMT
I was thinking similar things to snuffa here. The main thing we're learning about Jones through this entire sequence is that she has an MO. She attaches herself to young boys, and stays with them until they die, often getting a new name in the process. As such, she may have seen Surma as a threat to her relationship with Eglamore. And remember, as the one who trains mediums, Jones would have had a lot of influence over Surma. Maybe enough to suggest that she spend a little more time with that nice Carver fellow.
I think it's still a bit early to plausibly speculate that Jones manipulated Brinnie into leaving just to make this work out, but I wouldn't put it past her at all.
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Post by jaedreth on Oct 17, 2012 23:42:53 GMT
This is getting kinda creepy. What is it with Jones and small kids? Also, why does the baby have an eyepatch? Obviously Jones stole the childs eye getting the name "Wandering Eye" [/sarcasm] Seriously though, she's a god/demigod of some sort The Wandering Eye of Ra refers to Hathor, the mother figure of Egyptian Mythology, represented by a Cow. Keep in mind that in some versions of Egyptian Mythology, Hathor is depicted as Ra's daughter, Ra's wife, and Ra's mother. This may explain Ms. Jones' habit of raising a good man when she can't find one.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 17, 2012 23:48:57 GMT
Obviously Jones stole the childs eye getting the name "Wandering Eye" [/sarcasm] Seriously though, she's a god/demigod of some sort The Wandering Eye of Ra refers to Hathor, the mother figure of Egyptian Mythology, represented by a Cow. Keep in mind that in some versions of Egyptian Mythology, Hathor is depicted as Ra's daughter, Ra's wife, and Ra's mother. This may explain Ms. Jones' habit of raising a good man when she can't find one. Yep. Check this thread out. Very similar ideas of yours. Oh, and I like that connection! "Hathor is depicted as Ra's daughter, Ra's wife, and Ra's mother." Jones is motherly in that she's around when the men are children, there seems to be some romantic subtext between her and each man, and as the men grow old, she is somewhat juxtaposed as their daughter or at least a daughter-figure...ish.
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Post by unrequited on Oct 18, 2012 2:28:29 GMT
This is getting kinda creepy. What is it with Jones and small kids? Also, why does the baby have an eyepatch? Because Old Man Langdon had an eyepatch, ergo his baby form should too. Also the eyepatch. It is still awesome.
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Post by mariposa on Oct 18, 2012 2:30:56 GMT
Seems like she kind of steals their names by ensuring that they have no children to leave them to.
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Post by Jay on Oct 18, 2012 4:43:34 GMT
Meanwhile... "Yeah. Jones? This seems like a really roundabout way of explaining things... Is all this necessary?"
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Post by rafk on Oct 18, 2012 5:02:41 GMT
It reminds me of the Rhuidean sequence from <i>The Shadow Rising</i> in the Wheel of Time, actually.
Each step forward in the explanation goes further backwards in time, closer and closer to the shocking origin story. Forward... and back. Forward... and back.
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 18, 2012 5:03:47 GMT
By the time Jones is done explaining her history, and when we finally get back to Annie, Annie's gonna be shown lying on the floor, eating a bowl of popcorn, with cans of soda and some empty packets of chips surrounding her... I mean, crisps. Hehehe.
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Post by krael on Oct 18, 2012 7:30:50 GMT
It just came to me Mystery solved
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Post by alexh on Oct 18, 2012 7:56:07 GMT
It just came to me Mystery solved YOU HAVE DONE IT. YOU HAVE FIGURED IT OUT. The party hat was a nice touch.
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