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Post by Rex on Oct 3, 2012 15:36:28 GMT
A few chapters back, we got a flashback that showed that Surma, James, Tony, Kat's parents, and someone named Jones (presumably) were all in the same year (or close enough to be friends). Specifically, here: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=538I think this chapter is going to go back to that point. It's unnerving to see Jones looking exactly the same despite the passage of considerable amounts of time. Still, Eglamore needs to let go. He's still pining after Surma for all these years even when Jones has been rather affectionate.
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Post by gary on Oct 3, 2012 16:16:18 GMT
I dunno this strikes me as sweet rather than creepy. Eglamore has just basically been dumped and is worried it's because he's unattractive and so his friend is letting him know that she'll always be there for him (and is interested in him romantically). That's pretty nice. If nothing else you'd hope it would help his self esteem.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 3, 2012 16:55:35 GMT
But they both seem older than in the previous flashback! Lighting, perhaps. Jones expressionlessness makes it creepy to me too. That's not really fair. There are real people who have trouble with facial expressions and that doesn't necessarily make them creepy. It's fairly symmetrical, really. E.g. Americans are frequently perceived by a lot of other folk as some sort of uncanny clowns when they try too hard to smile and otherwise over-act. Whether this make that fair or not, is up to you... to me, it's just mildly amusing. In the next exciting episode: Jones manipulates Surma into dumping JJ Can't discount the possibility. I still hold that a colossal screaming match over Renard is far more likely as at least one of the reasons, though. Wierd. It's still impossible to figure out whether Jones's emotions are genuine, albeit invisible, or if she's just doing a positive version of riling up Antimony over her father for Eglamore's benefit. Given the persistence, there evidently is some sort of serious attachment, but beyond this... Jones may die inside every day over Eggers not looking at her, or only be a supporting friend with a touch of detached admiration, now sad to see him in such a broken state. That poker face works woth ways. Most likely, somewhere in between, though.
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Post by zaferion on Oct 3, 2012 16:59:18 GMT
I'm gonna go ahead and vote this "Creepiest Page of Gunnerkrigg Court". I know Jones means it, but I can't imagine her saying it in anything other than a flat monotone because her face just won't move. And thus, she sounds like some sort of evil creature out to seduce The Hero even though she has zero idea of proper seduction.
I feel bad for people who find Gunnerkrigg on this page. Makes it seem like Tom can't do emotions to save his life because they don't know Jonesy. (You also barely see Egger's face change at all.)
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Post by wynne on Oct 3, 2012 17:14:46 GMT
There's something about Jones' manner and face in this page... do you think she might be related to Tony somehow?
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Post by diantris on Oct 3, 2012 17:19:26 GMT
That piece made me think of 3 things:
1. The strip when Surma complained how James is always at some training and Anya told her he's doing it for her, to which she replied that she needs him to BE there, not to train somewhere far away.
2. Diune-like "breeding". What if Surma was too 'energetic' for Court's use, so they did everything to pair her with Anthony, knowing what would happen? Harsh, I know, but...
3. Still wondering if Jones could be a sentient program. :/
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 3, 2012 17:46:39 GMT
Hmm, just noticed that this probably takes place right after Jims returned from some of his extended training. His duds give off some sort of military vibe. Also, the bag. So, in a way, his girl cheated on him while he was in the army, and he learned this only after coming back. Classic ;D Listening to a friend read a Dear John letter is the worst, especially if they don't laugh it off. Nothing puts your morale tits-up faster than your steady girl telling you she isn't waiting for you and she's taking the dog with her.
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Oct 3, 2012 17:58:21 GMT
If I were Jones, I might be inclined to deny Annie the medium position out of spite. It would make me nauseous to so uncannily recreate the "old days", when my now-lover ignored me to pine for the late court medium. Jones does not strike me as vindictive. While she may well be, most of the elite players of the Court and Woods (Coyote, Jones, Headmaster) seem to be playing logically and well. You do not strike at the Rebels, even if they manage to smash a Death Star, out of spite. You find them, crouched and hiding at Hoth, and crush them. That piece made me think of 3 things: 1. The strip when Surma complained how James is always at some training and Anya told her he's doing it for her, to which she replied that she needs him to BE there, not to train somewhere far away. 2. Diune-like "breeding". What if Surma was too 'energetic' for Court's use, so they did everything to pair her with Anthony, knowing what would happen? Harsh, I know, but... 3. Still wondering if Jones could be a sentient program. :/ 1. Normal human complaining due to emotional and hormonal overloads. 2. I have seen no Bene-Gesserit, but they are quite crafty. 3. Jossed by Tom a few times. (Robot in specifics, but to what end is a robot? Is a program running on organic wetware really a program, or a human, or just an organism?)
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Post by Sivo on Oct 3, 2012 18:46:41 GMT
Jones totally has this 'show me more of this human thing called kissing' vibe going on there. I don't think she's insincere, it's just clear to me she's she's spent little time with human intimacy cues previous to this.
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Post by saritawolf on Oct 3, 2012 19:05:01 GMT
There, there, James. Now why don't I just remove this nasty little memory?
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Post by Rafael on Oct 3, 2012 19:08:58 GMT
There, there, James. Now why don't I just remove this nasty little memory? You have won the thread.
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Post by dante on Oct 3, 2012 20:11:37 GMT
"But this is touching, James," said Jones seriously. "Have you grown to care for 'the Carver girl', after all?"
"For her?" shouted Eglamore. "Expecto Patronum!"
From the tip of his wand burst the silver fire elemental: it landed on the office floor, bounded once across the office, and soared out of the window. Jones watched it fly away, and as its silvery glow faded she turned back to Eglamore, and her eyes were full of blank expressionlessness.
"After all this time?"
"Always," said Eggers.
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Post by superstarletce on Oct 3, 2012 20:23:40 GMT
"But this is touching, James," said Jones seriously. "Have you grown to care for 'the Carver girl', after all?" "For her?" shouted Eglamore. "Expecto Patronum!" From the tip of his wand burst the silver fire elemental: it landed on the office floor, bounded once across the office, and soared out of the window. Jones watched it fly away, and as its silvery glow faded she turned back to Eglamore, and her eyes were full of blank expressionlessness. "After all this time?" " Always," said Eggers. FUCKING FUCKING EXACTLY WHAT I FUCKING THOUGHT THIS MORNING.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 3, 2012 20:25:04 GMT
Whoever the guy is who's in the last panel, he needs to shave.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 3, 2012 20:27:08 GMT
What is up with those shoes? What are they, platform slippers or something? I'm very confused...
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Post by Thoth on Oct 3, 2012 20:45:25 GMT
There's something about Jones' manner and face in this page... do you think she might be related to Tony somehow? What am I? I am your aunt.
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Post by hanneswall on Oct 3, 2012 20:49:25 GMT
What is up with those shoes? What are they, platform slippers or something? I'm very confused... Boots. If you compare the color of his arms to what you (and I) thought were the skin of his feet it is quite different.
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Post by quoodle on Oct 3, 2012 23:11:11 GMT
I wasn't going to comment on this comic - but the comments of how creepy it is, is, well, too analytic. Jones is not a robot, the board posters may very well be. Not everyone wears their heart on their sleeve - just look at Annie at the first part of the story and even now. What it *is* is awkward. And that's a very human condition. I think love eventually got to grow as they got older, and I'm glad for that. Good for them.
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Post by SpitefulFox on Oct 3, 2012 23:27:39 GMT
Here's to hoping the next page isn't "Decades ago" and Jones going "Hey, there" to Eglamore.
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Post by quoodle on Oct 4, 2012 0:20:39 GMT
Here's to hoping the next page isn't "Decades ago" and Jones going "Hey, there" to Eglamore. I personally would like to know how she came into the scene (that may depend on "what" she is). She wasn't the person in those early pictures.
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 4, 2012 0:46:37 GMT
Jones is not a robot, the board posters may very well be. Damn, you got me. I wondered how long it would take for everyone to figure out I was a robot. Now I have to return to skynet and assume a new body. ;D
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Post by ryanandybob on Oct 4, 2012 11:58:04 GMT
-Looks like my theory of Jones having a weak spot for dragon slayers was wrong and it wasn't Mr. Thorn on the last page. -Still I wonder what Jones is. I remember back in chapter 23 when Rey thought Jones was beholden to someone, and said it was a shame to see... (we don’t know exactly but I imagine she is some sort of free spirit too)
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Post by Rafael on Oct 4, 2012 16:18:02 GMT
So, what do you guys think the cliffhanger for tomorrow will be? I guess next page will be in the school days, maybe Jones' arrival at the Court, leaving us at the verge of an explanation of what she is.
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Post by Lightice on Oct 4, 2012 17:14:34 GMT
So, what do you guys think the cliffhanger for tomorrow will be? I guess next page will be in the school days, maybe Jones' arrival at the Court, leaving us at the verge of an explanation of what she is. Prediction: the next page will feature Eglamore as a child talking to Jones who still doesn't look any different. Just because this page doesn't have enough creep-factor to it, yet.
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Post by exdevlin on Oct 4, 2012 18:56:47 GMT
*Pedophilic moment, then both very young James and same-looking Jones suddenly state, "How awkward. Let us continue being friends later."*
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Post by Necropaxx on Oct 4, 2012 19:36:14 GMT
"I will always be here for you, James. ... Because I'm a robot immortal."
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 4, 2012 20:15:28 GMT
"I will always be here for you, James. ... Because I'm a robot immortal." Hahaha, nice!
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 4, 2012 20:21:00 GMT
I'm so confused. And typing this has made me even more confused. D: I don't get Eglamore. As you can assume in [1099], it seems like Eglamore is a little jealous of Tony. That is, Eglamore fancies Surma. HOWEVER, in [540], it seems like Eglamore wanted “Jones” in the photo. It's as if Eglamore also fancies “Jones.” Or maybe he doesn't. Maybe Eglamore only wants “Jones” in the photo because he just wants to include his friend. (And we still don't know why Surma dislikes “Jones.”) I type “Jones” in quotations because Coyote addresses “Jones” here as Wandering Eye. Coyote: “What did she call you? Miss Jones? Is that the latest name you've stolen, Wandering Eye?” So, Wandering Eye is in “Jones's” body? My guess is that this indicates that “Jones” isn't who she truly is because her body is actually inhabited by Wandering Eye. (Kind of like how Reynardine took over Sivo's body. Eglamore didn't call him Sivo, but "Reynardine.") I'm still very confused. T^T On a different note, I still want to figure out who the light-brown/golden-haired girl is.
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Post by hanneswall on Oct 4, 2012 21:05:28 GMT
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Post by Weeaboo on Oct 4, 2012 22:19:39 GMT
As I read the comments on the comic page, I start to facepalm at people who keep wondering who the guy is. She just said his name. /facepalm.
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