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Post by jayne on May 5, 2011 16:46:58 GMT
Hi Oakfang, welcome aboard!
Good point. All you really need to be friends is that two people enjoy each other's company.
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Post by TBeholder on May 6, 2011 17:04:04 GMT
And Tom's choice to use the term "soft link" tells me he probably has a bit of a Unix background. It's a part of the file system, very-roughly analogous to a Windows shortcut but with a much different concept that's too far OT to explain here. Yes, except no. Yes, they are, though the common name is "symbolic link", i saw "soft link" almost exclusively in context "... vs. hard link". And no, because... One, NTFS has symlinks proper, long ago, though only for directories. Probably you missed this because in the ( rebellious ) spirit of MSbackslash, they called these " junctions"... and didn't include right tools, so only users of 3rd-party software like Far Manager really enjoyed this feature (heh, heh). Two, not only it's much different concept, but *NIX has a counterpart of windows "shortcuts" - that would be, of course, " desktop entries". [/offtopic] Ha! For the first few panels, I thought Ysengrin had taught her Zen Buddhism. ;D Don't you think he visibly suffers from one of Three Poisons way too much to be even considered as a teacher? Though... hmm, maybe otherwise he would qualify. and so on. One would hope their friendship could survive the Gunnerkrigg equivalent of teaching a total klutz how to fold origami, but it does point up one of their major, possibly unbreachable differences The unbreachability part ultimately depends on whether a total klutz can eventually learn basics of origami, no?
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Post by smjjames on May 6, 2011 20:07:28 GMT
ORLY? So what were you trying to do? Don't encourage them. Nested quotes are the worst thing to ever happen to bulletin board software. It's already hard enough to train the world's idiots to trim their quotes. It's just that whenever I try to quote someone who has more than two quotes in their post, the quote function cuts out all but the first one and the last one or two. It's not that I want to create a quote pyramid. TBeholder: Yea, Ysengrim doesn't come off as that enlightened. He does, however, show hints of a softer and more philosophical side.
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Post by crater on May 6, 2011 23:05:10 GMT
I think Ysengrim was once enlightened and friendly towards humans, but something happened to make him slowly lose his sanity. Perhaps it's just old age but eh
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 6, 2011 23:40:58 GMT
Jones thought Ysengrin's transformation into a tree-wolf wasn't doing any favors for his sanity.
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Post by deviantlightning on May 7, 2011 1:04:23 GMT
Aaaand the great divide has begun. Kat is starting to realize that they don't have anymore much in common, and will start questioning their friendship. Love the phoenix inner Annie, btw. Bingo. It looks like the Wood vs Court thing may be played out in miniature between these two, without the hostilities of course. Annie is apparently a bad student at the Court, etherically sensitive and loved her time in Gillitie. Kat's a great student, has no etheric leanings whatsoever, and enjoys all the technological stuff in Gunnerkrigg. Wow, how to bridge that divide. Maybe they can get someone who is both a tech wiz and has some etheric talent? Meh. I thought the point of their relationship is that the motif and themes surrounding either side is a false dichotomy. When you strip away all the apparent differences, all you get are two political entities waging a cold war. For one thing, Kat's ability is probably "Etheric." But naming something "Etheric" is incredibly jealous and possessive. It just smacks of the Forest trying to claim ownership of their powers and getting huffy when somebody tries to figure it out or happens to stumble upon them. There are scads of humans running about with unusual strengths and powers. For generation after generation. It gets a bit silly to name it a "Forest" thing after a while. I'd go so far to say that Kat actually belongs in the menagerie of students for Xavier's School of the Gifted. The artistic lightbulb motif surrounding her getting inspiration for the first time implies as much. And for the other part, most of the ground-level peons are simply unconcerned about the political tensions. They're just living out their lives and toeing the line.
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Post by deviantlightning on May 7, 2011 1:21:06 GMT
I think Ysengrim was once enlightened and friendly towards humans, but something happened to make him slowly lose his sanity. Perhaps it's just old age but eh Or more accurately, he's a bitter old war hawk. Even if he didn't always hate humans, I doubt he was ever friendly or jovial. He probably has always been humorless and unapproachable. I also doubt Ysengrin was ever particularly "enlightened" at any time. He's the guy who is loyal to a fault and quick to lose his temper. He's aware of Coyote's abuse and willing to put up with it. If the master lashes him, he licks boot and is gracious for the attention. In short, he's the picture of mediocrity.
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Post by jayne on May 7, 2011 3:24:44 GMT
I think Ysengrin is a typical wolf in regards to people... basically he prefers to have nothing to do with them. He's come to accept Annie to a point but if the whole court fell off the planet, no great loss for him.
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Post by deviantlightning on May 7, 2011 6:43:00 GMT
I think Ysengrin is a typical wolf in regards to people... basically he prefers to have nothing to do with them. He's come to accept Annie to a point but if the whole court fell off the planet, no great loss for him. Well, except as mentioned in the other thread, he's trying to start a war with the Court. I'm willing to credit his aggression to his personality than to his wolfish nature.
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Post by jayne on May 7, 2011 13:44:00 GMT
I think Ysengrin is a typical wolf in regards to people... basically he prefers to have nothing to do with them. He's come to accept Annie to a point but if the whole court fell off the planet, no great loss for him. Well, except as mentioned in the other thread, he's trying to start a war with the Court. I'm willing to credit his aggression to his personality than to his wolfish nature. How does a preference for having nothing to do with humans exclude someone from trying to start a war? And, you're assuming his motive was trying to start a war. I believe his motives were simply to plant those seed for some unstated reason.
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Post by deviantlightning on May 7, 2011 15:51:17 GMT
Well, except as mentioned in the other thread, he's trying to start a war with the Court. I'm willing to credit his aggression to his personality than to his wolfish nature. How does a preference for having nothing to do with humans exclude someone from trying to start a war? And, you're assuming his motive was trying to start a war. I believe his motives were simply to plant those seed for some unstated reason. He's gone one record by saying that anybody who becomes human (e.g. the suicide fairies) are traitors. The Court views the seed he attempted to plant as an aggressive action. An attack on the Court itself. And what other motive would you have for planting "evidence" that the Court is attacking the Forest? To start a war. None of this comes across as him being an isolationist or indifferent to humans.
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Post by jayne on May 7, 2011 16:16:58 GMT
How does a preference for having nothing to do with humans exclude someone from trying to start a war? And, you're assuming his motive was trying to start a war. I believe his motives were simply to plant those seed for some unstated reason. He's gone one record by saying that anybody who becomes human (e.g. the suicide fairies) are traitors. The Court views the seed he attempted to plant as an aggressive action. An attack on the Court itself. And what other motive would you have for planting "evidence" that the Court is attacking the Forest? To start a war. None of this comes across as him being an isolationist or indifferent to humans. This is your assumption. It does not mean it is the only possible explanation or even the most likely one. Since his act of aggression was staged, its likely he was trying to distract from him planting the seeds. If you want to start a war, there are more direct methods that planting seeds.
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