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Post by smjjames on Apr 20, 2011 15:05:02 GMT
The Three Stooges and Casablanca were in B/W because color film hadn't been perfected for the movies or maybe it was more expensive, I'm not exactly sure the reason. Still, color films did exist since there is a series called WWII in color (actually, not sure if those were colored in later or actual color film).
It could be a reference to the golden age of filmmaking or something.
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Post by jayne on Apr 20, 2011 15:39:43 GMT
When black and white were the only medium, there were some movies done more artistically, and other movies done more economically.
After color was invented, the same thing applied. Color was more expensive than black and white.
Now I think its probably more expensive to do a black and white film.
And I'm not fond of the colorization of movies. Its never quite right, I think.
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Post by mechagai on Apr 20, 2011 17:05:35 GMT
Now I think its probably more expensive to do a black and white film. This makes no sense. That kind of thing would be done in post-production. Movies are filmed more and more in a digital format thanks to HD and "3D", so ticking a Gray Scale box is all that's needed, aside from contrast and gamma corrections, but that's also part of post production.
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Post by jayne on Apr 20, 2011 20:56:12 GMT
Now I think its probably more expensive to do a black and white film. This makes no sense. That kind of thing would be done in post-production. Movies are filmed more and more in a digital format thanks to HD and "3D", so ticking a Gray Scale box is all that's needed, aside from contrast and gamma corrections, but that's also part of post production. I'm old... I was thinking about actual FILM. I think it would cost more because black and white processing is no longer standard. I'm just guessing, it might be as easy as replacing a color cartridge with a black and white one.
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Post by Per on Apr 20, 2011 21:22:20 GMT
[Spirited Away] > [Totoro, Mononoke, Kiki, Nausicaa] > [Ponyo, Laputa, Howl] > [Porco, Cagliostro]
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Post by legion on Apr 20, 2011 23:45:08 GMT
I'd actually put Mononoke and Nausicaa above all the others, but eh.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 21, 2011 1:36:37 GMT
This makes no sense. That kind of thing would be done in post-production. Movies are filmed more and more in a digital format thanks to HD and "3D", so ticking a Gray Scale box is all that's needed, aside from contrast and gamma corrections, but that's also part of post production. I'm old... I was thinking about actual FILM. I think it would cost more because black and white processing is no longer standard. I'm just guessing, it might be as easy as replacing a color cartridge with a black and white one. I know Christopher Nolan's (he of Inception and the last two Batman movies) first film, Following, was extremely low-budget and filmed in black-and-white because it was cheaper. But that was in the distant past year of 1998.
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Post by mechagai on Apr 21, 2011 2:29:08 GMT
I'm old... I was thinking about actual FILM. I think it would cost more because black and white processing is no longer standard. I'm just guessing, it might be as easy as replacing a color cartridge with a black and white one. From the wiki page found here.So there ya go. Edit: I know Christopher Nolan's (he of Inception and the last two Batman movies) first film, Following, was extremely low-budget and filmed in black-and-white because it was cheaper. But that was in the distant past year of 1998. According to that same wiki article, this was also true for Clerks. For physical film, color is always going to cost more due to the extra chemicals needed for the process of development.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 21, 2011 2:53:45 GMT
Interesting. Regarding Clerks, the wiki said:
Similarly, Nolan had to use available lighting for Following.
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Post by mechagai on Apr 21, 2011 2:58:49 GMT
Also, in early filming for movies and TV, colors were used to get the right detail in terms of contrast in a shot for black and white. That's why some recolors of older TV shows have everyone in really tacky, awful colors. There were people on the side that took note of all the colors used for everything in the shot.
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Post by jayne on Apr 21, 2011 14:09:12 GMT
Interesting. Regarding Clerks, the wiki said: Similarly, Nolan had to use available lighting for Following. First, I like your new avatar. ;D Second, I did black and white photography in the '70s and it was cheaper than color but as time passed, it became harder to get film and chemicals. I had to find a specialty store. I assumed that trend continued in the passing decades but I guess it never went away enough to affect the price of the materials needed.
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Post by AluK on Apr 21, 2011 14:47:25 GMT
Second, I did black and white photography in the '70s and it was cheaper than color but as time passed, it became harder to get film and chemicals. I had to find a specialty store. I assumed that trend continued in the passing decades but I guess it never went away enough to affect the price of the materials needed. BW film stock and processing chemicals are significantly cheaper to this day. Not only that, but processing BW film is way easier, requires less and cheaper hardware, is much less harmful to the environment. BW also tends to be less delicate and more "error tolerant" than color stock. All in all, in film, BW is substantially cheaper and easier to work with.
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