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Post by eightyfour on Sept 29, 2010 7:23:41 GMT
So, anyone still thinking Jeanne will listen to reason? Not today, no, I don't think so. I think that they're going to get the stone back and blip out of there. But I do think that Annie will, someday, eventually, find a way to bring peace to Jeanne's soul and help her move on to the afterlife like she did with Martin. In Jeannes case I get the feeling that there might be a more direct approach necessary to put her at peace (choosing those words very deliberately) than a nice chat over a cup of tea. However, that is of course pure speculation. I also get the feeling that the blinker stone might be coming to play a role in this (other than by enabling Jeanne to hold Annie down there). Remember: It's a traditional gift between lovers.
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Post by Goatmon on Sept 29, 2010 7:24:13 GMT
What does Jeanne mean by what she says here? I'm confused. "Since the privilege of being safe at the school is due to me, I should be allowed to take away that privilege." She's clearly referring to Parley's heart, and is now attempting to murder her in an envious rage of all the things Parley has (including love) that were all taken away from Jeanne.
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Post by sz on Sept 29, 2010 7:24:32 GMT
Second panel: Is that a cut on Jeanne's cheek the same as the one she gave Annie? I think it's the glow of the blinker stone used to depict Jeanne's utter fury and not an actual mark on her ethereal flesh. Otherwise, I figure we would have seen such marks before.
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Post by Casey on Sept 29, 2010 7:25:04 GMT
If there's one lesson I should have learned from watching Raiders of the Lost Ark as a lad, it's that the beautiful ghost will always change into a hideous spectre and attack you.
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Post by Refugee on Sept 29, 2010 7:26:28 GMT
Unrelated: is Parley's "gleaming heart" what keeps her from being a medium"? Parley's in medium training. Why would you say that something's keeping her from being a medium? Weeel, I guess the thing I have in mind was coyote's preference for Annie, but that could be because she's Surma's daughter. But...I don't know, really. I just have the impression that she's being trained because she's thought to be the best available candidate, but for some reason I have the impression she's...not a natural. I can't say, now that you call me on it, but...well, there you go. === I also wonder if Parley blipped in because she was drawn to this scene, not Smitty. === And finally, I wonder if the Court will be pleased if Annie and Parley succeed in freeing Jeanne. I have the very uncomfortable impression that she is, essentially, a slave.
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Post by eightyfour on Sept 29, 2010 7:28:08 GMT
If there's one lesson I should have learned from watching Raiders of the Lost Ark as a lad, it's that the beautiful ghost will always change into a hideous spectre and attack you. Ahhh! Yes, thank you! Now I know what those images were reminding me of! ;D
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Post by Rex on Sept 29, 2010 7:30:38 GMT
And finally, I wonder if the Court will be pleased if Annie and Parley succeed in freeing Jeanne. I have the very uncomfortable impression that she is, essentially, a slave. That depends entirely on the consequences of removing the guard at the Anaan Waters. If nothing happens, they'll be praised. If the folks on the other side become more antagonistic, they'll probably be in trouble.
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Post by Ristar on Sept 29, 2010 7:45:40 GMT
I can only wonder how the hell Parley (or Annie) its going to knock out the stone from Jeanne's hand.
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Post by evilanagram on Sept 29, 2010 7:45:47 GMT
When Jeanne says, "This luxury, afforded by my death," the luxury she refers to is the safety of the Court. When she says, "It should be mine to take," she is saying that because the Court's safety came at the cost of her own life, she has the right to take the lives of Parley and Annie. It's not exactly a logical argument, but it serves to show her motivation as a bitter, hate-filled spirit of vengeance.
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Post by legion on Sept 29, 2010 7:46:50 GMT
Note: 2 pages of thread in 45 minutes. New record?
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Post by Casey on Sept 29, 2010 7:48:46 GMT
Nope, that still doesn't make sense to me. When Jeanne says, "This luxury, afforded by my death," the luxury she refers to is the safety of the Court. When she says, "It should be mine to take," she is saying that because the Court's safety came at the cost of her own life, she has the right to take the lives of Parley and Annie. It's not exactly a logical argument, but it serves to show her motivation as a bitter, hate-filled spirit of vengeance. I prefer to think that the luxury she was referring to was Parley's gleaming heart, since that's what she was talking about in her last sentence on the previous page, which sets up a nice double entendre, that the luxury of a gleaming heart (figuratively) is due to her (Jeanne's) death, and therefore she lays claim to take Parley's heart, literally.
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Post by fjodor on Sept 29, 2010 7:48:51 GMT
Is it a coincidence that Jeanne and Zimmy have the same type of eyes?
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Post by evilanagram on Sept 29, 2010 7:51:33 GMT
This page reminds me of the librarian ghost from Ghost Busters.
Also, I love that after several posts speculating abiut who would come to the girls' rescue, they seem to be getting themselves out of this trouble.
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Post by evilanagram on Sept 29, 2010 7:55:03 GMT
When Jeanne says, "This luxury, afforded by my death," the luxury she refers to is the safety of the Court. When she says, "It should be mine to take," she is saying that because the Court's safety came at the cost of her own life, she has the right to take the lives of Parley and Annie. It's not exactly a logical argument, but it serves to show her motivation as a bitter, hate-filled spirit of vengeance. I prefer to think that the luxury she was referring to was Parley's gleaming heart, since that's what she was talking about in her last sentence on the previous page, which sets up a nice double entendre, that the luxury of a gleaming heart (figuratively) is due to her (Jeanne's) death, and therefore she lays claim to take Parley's heart, literally. I like that, too. Perhaps the luxury is a combination of Parley's gleaming heart and the safety she enjoys as a "coddled child" of the Court.
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Post by Casey on Sept 29, 2010 7:57:57 GMT
Right: the heart gleams from love, the love is possible due to the safety, the safety is possible due to Jeanne's ghost, so Jeanne's ghost tries to take the heart.
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Post by hal9000 on Sept 29, 2010 7:58:14 GMT
When Jeanne says, "This luxury, afforded by my death," the luxury she refers to is the safety of the Court. When she says, "It should be mine to take," she is saying that because the Court's safety came at the cost of her own life, she has the right to take the lives of Parley and Annie. It's not exactly a logical argument, but it serves to show her motivation as a bitter, hate-filled spirit of vengeance. I prefer to think that the luxury she was referring to was Parley's gleaming heart, since that's what she was talking about in her last sentence on the previous page, which sets up a nice double entendre, that the luxury of a gleaming heart (figuratively) is due to her (Jeanne's) death, and therefore she lays claim to take Parley's heart, literally. Yeah, I think this makes the most sense when taken in context with the last page. She's basically saying that she thinks Parley's love (and, by extension, her heart) are owed to her. I am reminded of a certain piece of fanart that I found, which I believe I posted in an earlier thread:
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Post by meghatron on Sept 29, 2010 8:25:11 GMT
Second panel: Is that a cut on Jeanne's cheek the same as the one she gave Annie? Also, awesome creepy. I don't see any cuts, though there are a few creepy creases from that face she pulled being lit up red by the blinker stone I can see. Oop! And that was already pointed out. I am a dork.
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Post by Max on Sept 29, 2010 8:30:15 GMT
I don't see how on earth they can get the blinker stone back. We're talking about a guardian so effective that Tom has stated that no one who has tried to cross has returned. She knows that the blinker stone is what anchors them to her, so they can't just trick her into dropping it. And they can't get close to her without coming in range of her sword.
In other words, they are effed.
On a side note, what happens if Parley just lets go of Annie? Would she be safe?
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Post by kefka on Sept 29, 2010 8:49:23 GMT
This may change Annie's mentality and usual approach at unknown etheric beings. This... wraith that Jeanne has become seems like an undead abomination that should be destroyed, for her own good. Of course Annie will probably be able to reason with her in a couple of years, once she is more experienced.
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Post by Brinunah on Sept 29, 2010 10:18:15 GMT
1) hall9000, that portrait of Jeanne pwns. Pure and Simple. 2) Did ya'll see Parley's serious face??? She is totally ready to kick some Ghost-Sentinel Butt. C) ... Jeanne's angry face kinda reminds me of a very angry monkey/ape/babbon variant. >>
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Post by joephlommin on Sept 29, 2010 10:29:47 GMT
Maybe I missed something but how long has Jeanne been down there?
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Post by lovecraft1024 on Sept 29, 2010 10:31:37 GMT
So, anyone still thinking Jeanne will listen to reason? I guess that rules out any group hugs, too
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Post by lovecraft1024 on Sept 29, 2010 10:36:07 GMT
... 2) Did ya'll see Parley's serious face??? She is totally ready to kick some Ghost-Sentinel Butt. ... Yeah, that's what I thought - there's the Parley we know and love!
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Post by todd on Sept 29, 2010 11:04:33 GMT
Jeanne's words raise an intriguing question. Gunnerkrigg Court owes its safety to her death, a sacrifice that she did not consent to. The Founders who arranged it are long since dead, of course, and the present residents of the Court weren't even born at the time. But their safety and protection stems from her murder, making them the beneficiaries of the crime. So should they be punished for it? On the one hand, they did not commit it; on the other hand, letting them continue to enjoy their safety thanks to Jeanne's protection would reward the crime.
It's a tangle I can't see an easy answer for, and certainly wouldn't want to be the judge on that case.
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Post by teemu on Sept 29, 2010 11:05:43 GMT
So... I haven't ever before anticipated a new page this badly. How will I survive until Friday?
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Post by paxjax123 on Sept 29, 2010 11:13:11 GMT
ohgodohgod OH MY GODDDDD TOM. I HAD A HEART ATTACK.
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Post by jayne on Sept 29, 2010 11:19:11 GMT
"Since the privilege of being safe at the school is due to me, I should be allowed to take away that privilege." She's clearly referring to Parley's heart, and is now attempting to murder her in an envious rage of all the things Parley has (including love) that were all taken away from Jeanne. I read it as: "This luxury (being coddled child) is possible because of my death, and so I should be able to deny this luxury to you... you won't be coddled anymore, you'll be dead."
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Post by cu on Sept 29, 2010 11:29:15 GMT
I don't think so. Jeanne means to steal George's gleaming heart for herself. The Fatality fanart is so accurate that I think it was made by Tom under an alias to poke some fun at us wild-theory-mongers.
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Post by jayne on Sept 29, 2010 11:33:31 GMT
Maybe I missed something but how long has Jeanne been down there? Since shortly after Coyote divided the court and forest. Judging by the clothes, it might have been about the year 1800. Edit: I'm terrible at judging clothes... it could be around the year 1600 Several hundred years at least
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Post by theweatherman on Sept 29, 2010 12:37:30 GMT
Annie and Parley encountered a wild Jeanne!
Jeanne used slash! It missed!
TheWeatherman uses waiting patiently for next page! It failed...
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