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Post by Aris Katsaris on Jun 26, 2010 9:26:13 GMT
Spiders aren't insects technically, so it's not certain Ketrak comes for them. Of course the taxonomy that the psychopomps use needn't be the same as that of human scientists.
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Post by todd on Jun 26, 2010 10:49:42 GMT
Could we please stop putting those pictures of spider close-ups in this thread? Some of us have nervous dispositions about these creatures (thank goodness Tom only showed the outlines of the etheric spiders and not the details).
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 26, 2010 11:09:53 GMT
Could we please stop putting those pictures of spider close-ups in this thread? Some of us have nervous dispositions about these creatures (thank goodness Tom only showed the outlines of the etheric spiders and not the details). Never mind. I guess most of us arthropoda are used to encounter speciecism. Look, glow worms!!!(sorry, it just that an opportunity was too perfect to miss) ;D
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Post by paxjax123 on Jun 26, 2010 12:12:53 GMT
I feel like Jones is about to walk up here with Renard and say, "Well done, Zeta." or something along those lines, Gamma will fall asleep and Annie will... do something.
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Post by La Goon on Jun 26, 2010 12:41:50 GMT
Yeah, I hope we'll see Jones again in one of the next couple of pages. I wouldn't really be nice of her to just disappear at this point.
Then again; does Jones worry about being nice? :/
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Post by legion on Jun 26, 2010 13:42:48 GMT
Yeah, I hope we'll see Jones again in one of the next couple of pages. I wouldn't really be nice of her to just disappear at this point. Then again; does Jones worry about being nice? :/ Does Jones worry?
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Post by snarkamedes on Jun 26, 2010 17:50:53 GMT
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Post by Per on Jun 26, 2010 18:36:49 GMT
First pic: "Ohboyohboy Gunnerkrigg Court is my favourite webcomic! I wonder what happens in today's episode!" Second pic: "..."
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Post by strangethoughts on Jun 26, 2010 19:11:24 GMT
Spiders aren't insects technically, so it's not certain Ketrak comes for them. Of course the taxonomy that the psychopomps use needn't be the same as that of human scientists. This is quite possibly true and spiders have such a rich diverse cultural history and many many spider gods and spirits exist it would not surprise me if they had their own guide. Still till one is shown I think we can just default that all arthropods are under the care of ketrak.
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Post by taboo on Jun 26, 2010 19:13:11 GMT
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Post by todd on Jun 26, 2010 22:04:37 GMT
Yeah, I hope we'll see Jones again in one of the next couple of pages. So do I; we'll need her to help provide some of the answers after all this.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 26, 2010 23:54:58 GMT
Could we please stop putting those pictures of spider close-ups in this thread? Some of us have nervous dispositions about these creatures (thank goodness Tom only showed the outlines of the etheric spiders and not the details). aww, is somebody afraid of spiders?
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Post by nikita on Jun 27, 2010 0:52:21 GMT
Everybody who is afraid of spiders should google jumping spiders. They are cute! They have big eyes and white fur! I am absolutely serious about this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SalticidaeAlso, everybody who heard horror stories about spiders should know that they actually hate human breath and will run away when they feel it.
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Post by whosit on Jun 27, 2010 0:59:57 GMT
I'm sorry to have disturbed you, Todd. I honestly wasn't aiming to disturb anyone. However, I am in your debt. Your reaction verifies my clients' claims regarding the sensitivity of humans to the 'evil spider' stereotype. SASS does not condemn this aspect of humanity; it is an instinct, and one that may have good use, under certain circumstances. The organization merely seeks to promote mutual understanding and harmony. These are goals that Mr. Siddell has clearly ignored, in the interest of sensationalism.
I personally agree; Ketrak's sphere of influence likely involves all things arthropod, given that his form is not exactly faithful to any one biological form.
Personally, I fully expect Jones to slip off and wait for Antimony to come to her. She's above the "take charge, now that the danger's out of the way" routine. Reynard, on the other hand, only held back because he was given no other acceptable choice. I imagine he'll hurry to Annie as soon as possible and make good use of his awkward-fathering techniques.
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Post by whosit on Jun 27, 2010 1:05:24 GMT
Everybody who is afraid of spiders should google jumping spiders. They are cute! They have big eyes and white fur! I am absolutely serious about this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SalticidaeAlso, everybody who heard horror stories about spiders should know that they actually hate human breath and will run away when they feel it. Nikita, your comment is as delightful as it is accurate. I, too, am a big fan of spider-dom's greatest choreographers.
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Post by legion on Jun 27, 2010 1:07:03 GMT
I'm all for mutual understanding. The sooner we get over the "arthropods are ew" prejudice, the sooner we can start to farm and commercialise this much more energy-efficient food. I bet spiders taste like crab. Yum yum.
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Post by whosit on Jun 27, 2010 1:15:33 GMT
I'm all for mutual understanding. The sooner we get over the "arthropods are ew" prejudice, the sooner we can start to farm and commercialise this much more energy-efficient food. I bet spiders taste like crab. Yum yum. ... I would say that I'm horrified, but something tells me that that would make your day. ...Okay, so I'm smiling, too.
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Post by lovecraft1024 on Jun 27, 2010 2:12:49 GMT
Well, as has been said many times before, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Recreational drugs have certainly had a positive influence on my web-spinning capabilities...
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 27, 2010 2:24:36 GMT
Yeah, I hope we'll see Jones again in one of the next couple of pages. I wouldn't really be nice of her to just disappear at this point. She may get a different opinion if she'll see Zimmy embracing Jack but will not hear calls for someone able to provide first aid. If you see what i mean. I doubt that she knows how to do it. i wonder what Jack-Spider would do if he were on drugs? Do I even want to think about it? I'd say that the webs of the spiders on stimulants have something in common with Jack's plans, and leave it there. ;D aww, is somebody afraid of spiders? It's puzzling, but some people are afraid of glow worms (see above), so why not spiders? Specifically with Opiliones it's at least understandable (autotomy looks rather... unappetizing). I'm all for mutual understanding. The sooner we get over the "arthropods are ew" prejudice, the sooner we can start to farm and commercialise this much more energy-efficient food. Already done with some crustacean species. I bet spiders taste like crab. Yum yum. Probably, but crabs and other available crustacea are larger. Spiders are hunting carnivores, thus sustaining a lot of them would be more troublesome than crawfish or prawn, and less efficient in the end. And everything spiders can eat fish would eat just as well. Hence, growing spiders is a big waste of efforts unless you want them as self propelled pest-munchers or entertainment. Not even for silk, despite some successful attempts.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Jun 27, 2010 3:14:49 GMT
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Post by whosit on Jun 27, 2010 6:46:29 GMT
I think even the 'Slow Clap' entrance would feel too hypocritical, to Jones. Besides, letting Zimmy know that Jones was around, but didn't try to turn the ether station off or do anything other than help Antimony get where she needed to go would not serve her purposes or the Court's.
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Post by amanmademonster on Jun 27, 2010 9:15:06 GMT
ah Canadian Hinterland... always educational ;D
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Post by djublonskopf on Jun 27, 2010 14:47:23 GMT
I'm all for mutual understanding. The sooner we get over the "arthropods are ew" prejudice, the sooner we can start to farm and commercialise this much more energy-efficient food. I bet spiders taste like crab. Yum yum. While it is a prejudice, it's prejudice that's strongly set by our DNA. Even as babies (human or even other primates), we're wired to be afraid of snakes and spiders, just about from birth. "Primal" fears tend to be set to turn on and off in us at key developmental phases. Young children are primed to be afraid of the dark, but it wears off with age, and once they're old enough that they could have handled themselves at night in our hunter-gatherer days, they tend to not need a night-light anymore. Teenagers are primed to be afraid of bleeding (though not all develop this fear), as that's the age they're most likely to do something dumb enough to cause a LOT of bleeding. In people where the fear does emerge, however, it tends to surface around age 13, and quietly fade away by 17 or so. But spider/snake fears are already set in primate babies, even before the babies have seen a single living snake or spider . . . (and actually, snake-fear is common among a phenomenal number of mammalian species, and it's much stronger than, say, the lion-fear that might make more survival sense . . . but lions are relatively new on the evolutionary scene, whereas deadly snakes and spiders were around with the very first mammals hundreds of millions of years ago). (Also, spiders and snakes are things that you can still avoid when they're relatively close. Once a lion is close you shouldn't need a genetic phobia to tell you that you're in trouble. The teeth and claws and "bigger than you" and "running right at you" should all be good hints.)
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Post by Casey on Jun 27, 2010 15:17:44 GMT
I'm all for mutual understanding. The sooner we get over the "arthropods are ew" prejudice, the sooner we can start to farm and commercialise this much more energy-efficient food. I bet spiders taste like crab. Yum yum. While it is a prejudice, it's prejudice that's strongly set by our DNA. Even as babies (human or even other primates), we're wired to be afraid of snakes and spiders, just about from birth. "Primal" fears tend to be set to turn on and off in us at key developmental phases. Young children are primed to be afraid of the dark, but it wears off with age, and once they're old enough that they could have handled themselves at night in our hunter-gatherer days, they tend to not need a night-light anymore. Teenagers are primed to be afraid of bleeding (though not all develop this fear), as that's the age they're most likely to do something dumb enough to cause a LOT of bleeding. In people where the fear does emerge, however, it tends to surface around age 13, and quietly fade away by 17 or so. But spider/snake fears are already set in primate babies, even before the babies have seen a single living snake or spider . . . (and actually, snake-fear is common among a phenomenal number of mammalian species, and it's much stronger than, say, the lion-fear that might make more survival sense . . . but lions are relatively new on the evolutionary scene, whereas deadly snakes and spiders were around with the very first mammals hundreds of millions of years ago). (Also, spiders and snakes are things that you can still avoid when they're relatively close. Once a lion is close you shouldn't need a genetic phobia to tell you that you're in trouble. The teeth and claws and "bigger than you" and "running right at you" should all be good hints.) I've read where they've done psychological studies that seem to indicate that all of the above is wrong.
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Post by philistine21 on Jun 27, 2010 16:54:25 GMT
While it is a prejudice, it's prejudice that's strongly set by our DNA. Even as babies (human or even other primates), we're wired to be afraid of snakes and spiders, just about from birth. "Primal" fears tend to be set to turn on and off in us at key developmental phases. Young children are primed to be afraid of the dark, but it wears off with age, and once they're old enough that they could have handled themselves at night in our hunter-gatherer days, they tend to not need a night-light anymore. Teenagers are primed to be afraid of bleeding (though not all develop this fear), as that's the age they're most likely to do something dumb enough to cause a LOT of bleeding. In people where the fear does emerge, however, it tends to surface around age 13, and quietly fade away by 17 or so. But spider/snake fears are already set in primate babies, even before the babies have seen a single living snake or spider . . . (and actually, snake-fear is common among a phenomenal number of mammalian species, and it's much stronger than, say, the lion-fear that might make more survival sense . . . but lions are relatively new on the evolutionary scene, whereas deadly snakes and spiders were around with the very first mammals hundreds of millions of years ago). (Also, spiders and snakes are things that you can still avoid when they're relatively close. Once a lion is close you shouldn't need a genetic phobia to tell you that you're in trouble. The teeth and claws and "bigger than you" and "running right at you" should all be good hints.) I've read where they've done psychological studies that seem to indicate that all of the above is wrong. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8237691.stmWhile I'm not exactly sure that his experiment is that convincing, here is a developmental psychologist's take on the question.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Jun 27, 2010 17:23:20 GMT
That's more of a huge leap than a conclusion, so I'm with you at not finding this very convincing.
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Post by legion on Jun 27, 2010 17:32:09 GMT
Guys. This was joke. No debate on spider related human behaviorist heredity, plzkthx.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 27, 2010 18:17:04 GMT
While it is a prejudice, it's prejudice that's strongly set by our DNA. Even as babies (human or even other primates), we're wired to be afraid of snakes and spiders, just about from birth. (with curiosity): that's what they teach in American schools now? Guys. This was joke. No debate on spider related human behaviorist heredity, plzkthx. Not good, yes... but looking back, i'd say we sidetracked more than enough to have almost two pages dumped into a separate thread anyway. Though it was fun.
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Post by todd on Jun 27, 2010 22:45:15 GMT
Guys. This was joke. No debate on spider related human behaviorist heredity, plzkthx. Unfortunately, it's difficult to tell when a person is joking or being serious if his or her words are written, rather than spoken with a tone of voice accompanying it.
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Post by Goatmon on Jun 27, 2010 23:24:13 GMT
Awww, good for Zimmy.
I think this is the first time we've seen her do something nice for anyone.
Too bad her good mood is always short lived.
I really hope this is the start of a much better relationship with Zimmy, Jack, and the estrogenic duo.
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