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Post by legion on Jun 25, 2010 14:14:34 GMT
I just realised something.
She made him fall for her.
Figuratively AND literally.
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Post by dawngazer on Jun 25, 2010 14:19:40 GMT
Awesome. Blossom. Zimmy - Spider Splatter. Certain ring to it eh?
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Post by bookworm on Jun 25, 2010 15:26:10 GMT
This page just reminded me so much of this fanart by Tobu Ishi that I had to put a link. Of course, Zimmy looks much happier on the actual page, but, still!
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Post by aaroncampbell on Jun 25, 2010 15:30:04 GMT
Anyway, am I the only one who gets the distinct feeling that Zimmy's collectedness is not just "it rained, so all is fine", but also due to the fact that the whole experience, "being Annie" and whatnot, had some profound effect on her? As if she found something important? Maybe that's one part of how Annie was important in all this. One thing that comes to mind, is that all this happened right after Zimmy's jealousy outburst... maybe that changed into feeling more certain? And I bet in Zimmy's case feeling less scared about losing Gamma means everything when it comes to mental collectedness. I got that feeling as well, that Zimmy's temporary ... phasing ... or whatever it was with Annie definitely changed her for the better. As though she can control the etheric torrent better now, perhaps with some of the understanding that Annie learned from Coyote. Did you notice that she's not immediately gunking up around the eyes? I like your observation about her reaction to Gamma. It would be a shame to see their relationship drift apart if our suspicions are correct about Zimmy's newfound control and independence. I do think their relation had some negative foundations to it (Zimmy's lies to Gamma about what people were saying, especially) but Zimmy won't need to do that anymore to keep Gamma around. Also, the telepathic link between Gamma and Annie may persist as well, so Gamma won't be as isolated as she was. The added social exposure and the extra sleep will both do wonders for Gamma. This could be a win for everyone, as long as Kat doesn't become jealous of the growing friendship circle.
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Post by zylonbane on Jun 25, 2010 15:35:26 GMT
I agree that Zimmy seems to still have a little bit of Annie in her.
But... what did Annie get from Zimmy?
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Oh, sweet mystery of life at last I found you!
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Post by Darkhand on Jun 25, 2010 15:41:46 GMT
But... what did Annie get from Zimmy? I, personally, find it unlikely Annie 'got' anything from Zimmy. At best the only thing Zimmy got from Annie was feeling what a calm-confidence... well... feels like, since she acted out what she had observed of Annie's personality in the past.
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Post by the bandit on Jun 25, 2010 16:10:21 GMT
I like all these characters taking an Occam's Razor approach to crisis resolution.
CRUNCH! SPLAT!
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Post by djublonskopf on Jun 25, 2010 16:14:54 GMT
I like all these characters taking an Occam's Razor approach to crisis resolution. CRUNCH! SPLAT! Occam's FIST!
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Post by the bandit on Jun 25, 2010 16:28:03 GMT
/approve
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Post by Per on Jun 25, 2010 16:44:44 GMT
"Occam's Lazor" has 321 hits on Google.
"Ockham's Lazor" has only 1.
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Post by lovecraft1024 on Jun 25, 2010 16:50:12 GMT
I just love this page. Jack is so clueless and misguided after causing all this mayhem. Selfishly activating a gigantic power plant just to get Zimmy to manifest, clueless that she suffers from this, not to mention smashing a robot, causing grief to Renardine... did I miss anything? Oh, tried to "turn" Annie? And then, he has the nerve to ask her out. Düde! What were you thinking? That she'd like you for this? You shoulda flown away when you had the chance! Anyway, she walks up to him and basically pulls his power plug. "Had about enough of that!" I wonder what he'll be like when he wakes up. "Was it all a bad dream?" The ease with which Zimmy removed the spider does make me wonder if Annie could have done the same thing, much earlier in the story. Obviously would have ruined the story, but perhaps anyone with ether-vision could do it? Zimmy is definitely more calm than after the first time it rained. Remains to be seen how long her new found peace will last.
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Post by Casey on Jun 25, 2010 17:10:24 GMT
That sort of half smile that Zimmy's been doing since the illusion washed away, I like to interpret that as being like, "Oh, little man, you really don't know who you're dealing with..." Almost like she's so unafraid of what he represents, she almost pity's his attempts at subjugating what is, in truth, HER world. Sort of like throwing a rock at a tank, you know?
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Post by zylonbane on Jun 25, 2010 17:39:56 GMT
Guess my reference was a bit too subtle.
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Post by blackboe on Jun 25, 2010 17:55:08 GMT
Well she did enjoy the idea of squishing spiders last time. That was mad cool Zimmy, mad cool. Haha, I had no idea until you said that.
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Post by whosit on Jun 25, 2010 18:22:01 GMT
Mr. Tom Siddell, As the legal representative for SASS (Spiders Against Stereotyping Stories), it is my duty to inform you that my clients are extremely upset with the outcome of your most recent story arc, particularly as one of your main characters killed the stereotypically villainous spider after that spider had shown signs of potential romance-inspired rehabilitation. While it is fair to point out that a few highly conservative individuals among my clients view the eating of spouses/romance interests as acceptable behavior, there was little foreplay involved, and Zimmy did not, in fact, eat her victim. We have tried to be reasonable, but at this point a lawsuit is practically unavoidable. My clients and I will see you in court.
Sincerely,
Lucas de Medici Lucas de Medici prosecuting attorney
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Jun 25, 2010 18:44:46 GMT
Interesting. I've got to wonder how Jack's going to respond to having gone through this experience once he recovers a bit. Might be amusing to see him turn into some kind of anti-etheric zealot in the Court as a result of this (if that makes any sense).
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 25, 2010 19:14:54 GMT
I think either Zimmy will go over and squish the spider, now the rain has put her in contol. Take a cookie! This term deserves to be immortalized on par with "stalky". Did Zimmy just heal him? Is Jack back to normal now? A good question! But i doubt anything will be "like before". Since Zimmy never sleeps, there's also the possibility the spider (being a creature from Zimmy's illusions at least in part) may have caused Jack to not sleep as well. IIRC, there were hints that Jack has at least some sleep problems. So it could simply be that once the spider was removed he simply passed out from exhaustion. Or lack of food as someone else said. It's probably safe to say that the spider pushed Jack to do things that he wouldn't have normally done/been able to do, so it's not a real surprise to me he passes out after it's removed and destroyed. If this spider was the only thing that kept Jack up and running, he may be unable to walk straight for days. Would be funny if Zimmy chose to sit and look after him. Remember when some people said Annie should just kill the spider and some other people said there's probably a good reason not to. There were reasons to believe it's not that simple. Just like if someone got an arrow in the ribcage. It's pretty obvious something should be done about it instead of asking about the colour of the feathers and caste of the archer, and quickly. But it's just as clear that yanking the shaft out "just so" may make things worse. and Tom just responded with "Partly, yes". Oh lord, Jack really is a weirdo if any part of him is attracted to Zimmy. Why not? She's in a pretty big trouble too, she can understand him and she's cute in a way - in those rare moments when she's peaceful, sane and out of black gunk. I wonder if that gives new meaning to the scene near the start of Chapter Twenty-seven where Kat and Reynardine were expressing their concern over Annie's constant meddling. Perhaps one of the points of this two-parter is Annie learning that she doesn't need to keep on acting like a conventional hero - that she can stay in the background and gently prod people to do the things that need doing. Either way, it seems to be the lesson Jones tried to impart. But... what did Annie get from Zimmy? My guess: that sometimes it really sucks to be some people. I mean, before he understood there are problems that can and should be solved, and she saw helping others as a natural thing to do... All this was rather admirable, but "professional", as if she was a medic. Now this got personal. I wonder what he'll be like when he wakes up. "Was it all a bad dream?" Considering the condition he should be in, more likely "how did i fell asleep in a concrete mixer?"
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Post by todd on Jun 25, 2010 22:14:04 GMT
If Jack *does* remember all the things he did under the etheric spider's control - such as killing the guard robot and betraying Reynardine - I think he's in for some very unpleasant nights to come.
I wonder whether the Court will let him off the hook on the grounds that all the problems he caused were due to "arachno-possession". Though (cf. the first paragraph) that may be the least of his problems.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jun 25, 2010 22:46:09 GMT
Maybe, as was speculated before, killing the spider so suddenly is dangerous for Jack's mind.
And maybe Zimmy knew this and did it anyway. Serenely, with a smile on her face. Because she's pure evil.
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Post by whosit on Jun 25, 2010 23:17:46 GMT
My clients would agree with you.
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Post by Rex on Jun 26, 2010 1:29:51 GMT
If Jack *does* remember all the things he did under the etheric spider's control - such as killing the guard robot and betraying Reynardine - I think he's in for some very unpleasant nights to come. I wonder whether the Court will let him off the hook on the grounds that all the problems he caused were due to "arachno-possession". Though (cf. the first paragraph) that may be the least of his problems. Well, we're going to see if Jones just plays favorites with Annie or if she's just easier/more understanding on the students than the other Court personnel would be.
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Post by ih8pkmn on Jun 26, 2010 2:08:03 GMT
Great. Now we'll NEVER know what the spider was. My personal theory is that Zimmy or Gamma was traumatized by spiders back home. This would explain Gamma's reluctance to go into the spider's nest here, and why Zimmy wanted to squash them here. It would also explain the Abundance of spiders in her mind.
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Post by strangethoughts on Jun 26, 2010 3:40:10 GMT
If you crush an illusory white spider from zimmingham does ketrak care???
If not then clearly it wasn't really a spider and it's depiction as evil does not leave the artist liable for damages to the reputation of spiders.
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Post by haggidubious on Jun 26, 2010 4:16:40 GMT
My god, what a satisfying chapter...Zimmy's just wonderful. In her own terrifying way, of course!
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Post by asianborat on Jun 26, 2010 4:18:44 GMT
Mr. Tom Siddell, As the legal representative for SASS (Spiders Against Stereotyping Stories), it is my duty to inform you that my clients are extremely upset with the outcome of your most recent story arc, particularly as one of your main characters killed the stereotypically villainous spider after that spider had shown signs of potential romance-inspired rehabilitation. While it is fair to point out that a few highly conservative individuals among my clients view the eating of spouses/romance interests as acceptable behavior, there was little foreplay involved, and Zimmy did not, in fact, eat her victim. We have tried to be reasonable, but at this point a lawsuit is practically unavoidable. My clients and I will see you in court. Sincerely, Lucas de MediciLucas de Mediciprosecuting attorneypahahha, this is win!
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Post by whosit on Jun 26, 2010 5:22:35 GMT
If you crush an illusory white spider from zimmingham does ketrak care??? If not then clearly it wasn't really a spider and it's depiction as evil does not leave the artist liable for damages to the reputation of spiders. A valid point, sir. However, as arachnophobia tends to be illogical, the mere form of a spider is sufficient to reinforce the evil connotation. I'm afraid that Mr. Siddell will have to produce either an equally spider-esque character as a moral antithesis to this arc's ethereal villain in the near future (and/or large sums of money for SASS's extensive arachnophobia-treatment centers) or some even more compelling argument for my clients' withdrawal of all charges. The Salticidae branch of my clientele have asked me to post the following image, in the hopes that it will help bring about a change of heart in Mr. Siddell, or, at the very least, his fan base.
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Post by taboo on Jun 26, 2010 5:36:32 GMT
i've really enjoyed this chapter so far
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Post by four on Jun 26, 2010 6:34:02 GMT
If you crush an illusory white spider from zimmingham does ketrak care??? If not then clearly it wasn't really a spider and it's depiction as evil does not leave the artist liable for damages to the reputation of spiders. A valid point, sir. However, as arachnophobia tends to be illogical, the mere form of a spider is sufficient to reinforce the evil connotation. I'm afraid that Mr. Siddell will have to produce either an equally spider-esque character as a moral antithesis to this arc's ethereal villain in the near future (and/or large sums of money for SASS's extensive arachnophobia-treatment centers) or some even more compelling argument for my clients' withdrawal of all charges. The Salticidae branch of my clientele have asked me to post the following image, in the hopes that it will help bring about a change of heart in Mr. Siddell, or, at the very least, his fan base. Perhaps the aforementioned Ketrak could be that antithesis if ever shown on-page to have the form of a spider. (and not, say, a giant mosquito)
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Post by whosit on Jun 26, 2010 7:47:00 GMT
Possibly, although Kat's reaction suggests that he has something akin to an 'eldritch-abomination' form (hence her need for new eyes and a new brain).
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Post by whosit on Jun 26, 2010 7:49:04 GMT
Thank you, sir! Your appreciation is appreciated!
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