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Post by rainofsteel on Sept 10, 2011 18:35:23 GMT
[...] Annie [...] She's so stupidly stoic most of the time. For a long time Annie has been cool headed, almost unflappable, most of the time, and that is not at all the same thing as being stupid or stoic. |
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Post by shmargluff on Sept 10, 2011 23:45:27 GMT
Annie was behaving much more viciously than Jack here. I don't care how old you are - it's cruel to play with someone's feelings like that, (and 14 is not that young). Also, I'm quite sure now that Jack was messing with her when he said he's in love with Zimmy. If that's the case, and he actually does like her, then you can't really blame him for anything...except perhaps taking the joke a little too far. That being said, I feel a little bad for Annie...I feel like many more things are going to blow up her face this year. 14 is still pretty damn young. I'm 27. She's super young and I can remember how stupid and petty I was at that age. I was also stupid, petty, and temperamental at 14. (I'm still kinda stupid and petty at 22.) I was just trying to say that her age is no excuse for anyone to go easy on her. She understood the potential consequences of her actions. Heck, it looks like she wanted Jack to get hurt. If so, she really needs to take this hit (as someone has already said) so that she can grow up a bit and be a bit less stupid, petty and temperamental. It would have been different if she had just suddenly lost her temper and said something stupid. That's much more forgivable than a premeditated attack. |
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Post by fuzzysocks on Sept 11, 2011 2:41:01 GMT
14 is still pretty damn young. I'm 27. She's super young and I can remember how stupid and petty I was at that age. I was also stupid, petty, and temperamental at 14. (I'm still kinda stupid and petty at 22.) I was just trying to say that her age is no excuse for anyone to go easy on her. She understood the potential consequences of her actions. Heck, it looks like she wanted Jack to get hurt. If so, she really needs to take this hit (as someone has already said) so that she can grow up a bit and be a bit less stupid, petty and temperamental. It would have been different if she had just suddenly lost her temper and said something stupid. That's much more forgivable than a premeditated attack. I just find it funny mostly than as an act of absolute horror that everyone is making it out to be. She made an attempt and failed at a pretty stupid plan to begin with. It may have been kind of malicious, but in all honesty it's nothing enough to cry murder about. She's just a 14 year old kid... that's how I see it. |
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Post by hidden on Sept 11, 2011 2:47:05 GMT
Plus, I don't think it's unfair/cruel for anyone to turn a trick back against someone. Besides, it makes him seem slier.
And as Big Boss would say: he played her like a piano.
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Post by johnwwells on Sept 11, 2011 4:27:54 GMT
What Annie and Jack are doing is petty, but the natural pace of a webcomic is making it look worse. An incident that'd occupy five minutes in a TV show suddenly becomes a whole week of Annie stringing Jack along. Not a petty ten-minute prank, but a week-long manipulative flirtation. It's as if Annie and Jack are playing Tethercat, and Jack took the first turn being the cat. All that notwithstanding:  |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 11, 2011 8:32:33 GMT
For a long time Annie has been cool headed, almost unflappable, most of the time, and that is not at all the same thing as being stupid or stoic. Yet unflappability got to have limits. In this case, we don't know exactly what part got her, so... let me put it this way:  She could say with this expression just about everything she said on last pages. Which sort of illustrates the possibility that Annie, though enraged, began to seriously worry about his sanity.  In other news: |
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Post by todd on Sept 11, 2011 10:39:05 GMT
What Annie and Jack are doing is petty, but the natural pace of a webcomic is making it look worse. An incident that'd occupy five minutes in a TV show suddenly becomes a whole week of Annie stringing Jack along. Not a petty ten-minute prank, but a week-long manipulative flirtation. I think that's the disadvantage of reading "Gunnerkrigg Court" one page every two or three days (though I still do that) rather than one chapter in a sitting, once it's completed. (Not to mention that the former approach probably allows the side-elements - Boxbot, Kat's pop culture enthusiasms, etc. - to upstage the story; "Gunnerkrigg Court", under those circumstances, reads more like a collection of related strips which tell a story, but in which the punchline in the last panel takes precedence over the next step in the story.) One reason for us to be grateful for the three book collections, that let us read "Gunnerkrigg Court"'s first thirty-one chapters in a sitting. |
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Post by blahzor on Sept 11, 2011 15:02:53 GMT
oh oh oh tom's recent twitter. looks like Jack is still going to go into trying to get Zimmy in a cocky mood
gunnerkrigg: Look, if you are a male fictional character in competition with a girl, NEVER start off by saying "A GIRL? This is gonna be easy!"
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Post by aaroncampbell on Sept 11, 2011 22:38:05 GMT
For a long time Annie has been cool headed, almost unflappable, most of the time, and that is not at all the same thing as being stupid or stoic. Yet unflappability got to have limits. In this case, we don't know exactly what part got her, so... let me put it this way: She could say with this expression just about everything she said on last pages. Which sort of illustrates the possibility that Annie, though enraged, began to seriously worry about his sanity. That picture's awesome! LAUGHING ON LINE! But after seeing it, I heard Jack's line in Quagmire's voice. Ew. |
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Post by thereisnosaurus on Sept 12, 2011 0:21:07 GMT
last panel seems to imply Annie kinda realising what she just said in the "oh shit I am getting excessively nasty here, why the bleep do I give a... oh" kind of way. I'm pretty sure she actually does give some kind of something about jack, but her nature is to keep a distance and play things coy. It kind of backfired hard here, and she's a bit ruffled.
It certainly explains the conservatively outraged reaction and attempts to push zimmy off the available register, basically to get focus back on her. When you think about it, if Annie has a vice it's that she's quite selfish. Wandering into danger, copying kat's homework, nicking the photo of her parents. She's also quite defensive of the fact, as her reaction to renard bringing that up attests.
This certainly strikes me as the inexperienced power play of a self-centered girl more than anything else (I don't mean this pejoratively, as has been mentioned, annie hasn't exactly had a lot of other people to develop her social tendencies, all humans are entirely egocentric for an extended period, and she has an excuse for losing it later than most. It also makes me once again appreciate the depth Tom expresses through his characters, and whether he's secretly a greybeard in disguise with a joint doctorate in cognitive psychology, world mythology and awesomeness)
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Post by Eversist on Sept 12, 2011 4:10:38 GMT
I think the last panel is supposed to be her catching the jab Jack is intentionally/unintentionally making about her non-existant parents.
Edit: Also, all of the comic edits in this thread are AMAZING.
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 12, 2011 13:07:16 GMT
I think that's the disadvantage of reading "Gunnerkrigg Court" one page every two or three days (though I still do that) rather than one chapter in a sitting, once it's completed. (Not to mention that the former approach probably allows the side-elements - Boxbot, Kat's pop culture enthusiasms, etc. - to upstage the story; On the other hand, this gives enough of time to think over possible implications and allusions. And, well, it's Gunnerkrigg Court we talk about. Any present or missing detail... But after seeing it, I heard Jack's line in Quagmire's voice. Ew. Then how about another version? Well, yeah.  I somehow doubt this would be worse for Annie, though. Or at least that she is less prepared to discuss this variant than Jack. ...therefore, such scene would be more like this:  |
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I somehow doubt this would be worse for Annie, though. Or at least that she is less prepared to discuss this variant than Jack.