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Post by Snes on May 24, 2010 7:02:10 GMT
[725]Could it be? Is Tom actually explaining something outright? What is this I don't even
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Post by Yin on May 24, 2010 7:03:25 GMT
And that is why Zimmy isn't going to come back to the station. Nice!
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Post by Alex on May 24, 2010 7:05:49 GMT
I suspect the heatsink analogy can't be carried too far - that would lead to some strange consequences for Gamma.
Also: the rain may have been useless to Zimmy not because it was artificial per se, but because it had been drained of its etheric energy.
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Post by centzontotochtin on May 24, 2010 7:10:50 GMT
Well this explains quite a bit, except the part about where Money Spider and the others come in. I think either Jones isn't telling the whole truth here (perhaps because she doesn't know) or that there's something that happened to Zimmy that the court doesn't know about.
Also, panel four is one of my favorite things that Tom has drawn. I think I've found myself an avvy.
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Post by guyy on May 24, 2010 7:10:53 GMT
So many detailed and probably accurate revelations, so little time! I can hardly wait for Wednesday now...but I'd guess that more explanations on the next page is only what Tom wants us to expect.
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Post by jimbobbowilly on May 24, 2010 7:11:16 GMT
Loving those brain pipes.
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Post by Ignotus Somnium on May 24, 2010 7:11:29 GMT
A typical GC answer--it cements some ideas that were previously just speculation or wild guesses, and then raises even more questions. Why is Zimmy connected to the elutherium this way? How is Gamma able to diffuse her powers? And who could be keeping secrets from Jones? What are they doing with that etheric energy the power station absorbs?
That fourth panel is absolutely gorgeous, too. Very, very neat page.
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Post by Nicer Atom on May 24, 2010 7:17:11 GMT
I suspect the heatsink analogy can't be carried too far - that would lead to some strange consequences for Gamma. Also: the rain may have been useless to Zimmy not because it was artificial per se, but because it had been drained of its etheric energy. Who says it won't? So natural rain contains etheric energy, while water in piping doesn't (Tom said showers don't help either). Therefore, this lake must either be natural, or especially made to collect etheric energy. On a completely separate note, a girl with robot parts may or may not appear around 30 pages in the future.
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Post by La Goon on May 24, 2010 7:17:39 GMT
Was anyone else reminded of H. R. Giger by the fourth panel?
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Post by edzepp on May 24, 2010 7:20:24 GMT
I feel like I'm not understanding something here. When Jones says to imagine the ether station in the mind of a person, what does that mean exactly?
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Post by La Goon on May 24, 2010 7:23:08 GMT
I took it to mean that she is constantly collecting etheric energy, but she can't use it for anything.
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 24, 2010 7:24:35 GMT
I gotta second the love for that fourth panel.
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Post by edzepp on May 24, 2010 7:26:34 GMT
I took it to mean that she is constantly collecting etheric energy, but she can't use it for anything. Ah, that's helpful. Thanks.
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Post by hal9000 on May 24, 2010 7:35:49 GMT
Hmm, it is a (tortured) computer analogy. Most overloaded computer processors these days have throttling/thermal protection circuitry that under-clocks them if the temperature goes above/close to the thermal design power. I think it could be more properly Zimmy pulls energy out of the surrounding environment in much the same way as the power station, and needs Gamma to dissipate it harmlessly. Without Gamma. the energy is released in an uncontrolled manner, which manifests as a phase-shift into birminghell.
Maybe the sudden loss of surrounding etheric energy due to the power station causes some kind of runaway reaction with Zimmy. Sort-of like how the loss of coolant and the low-power conditions at Chernobyl caused the disaster there.
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Post by eightyfour on May 24, 2010 7:49:56 GMT
Was anyone else reminded of H. R. Giger by the fourth panel? I was gonna say that! Now I demand a full-page-sized piece of Zimmy inside a gigeresque nightmare of pipes and stuff!
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Post by centzontotochtin on May 24, 2010 7:58:20 GMT
I gotta second the love for that fourth panel. Thanks, Mezz. I hope you don't mind me using it. Also, I'm beginning to wonder about how Zimmy and Gamma's telepathy works as well, and why the ether Zimmy gathers forms that eye gunk. Maybe it's like crude oil that needs to be refined before it can be used.
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 24, 2010 8:17:42 GMT
Hmm... Zimmy is in touch with the ether in a similar manner to Coyote or Reynardine. Is Zimmy a demigoddess? Thanks, Mezz. I hope you don't mind me using it. No problem. I actually didn't have any plans of using it here; I like to cross-pollinate my fandoms, so this is the one forum where I don't use a GC avatar.
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Post by bellerophon on May 24, 2010 9:55:47 GMT
Maybe the sudden loss of surrounding etheric energy due to the power station causes some kind of runaway reaction with Zimmy. Sort-of like how the loss of coolant and the low-power conditions at Chernobyl caused the disaster there. Let's not push metaphors too far. I think from what we saw it's more likely she was expecting release from the rain on the rooftop and when that didn't happen she just mentally cracked and lost control.
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Post by maestro on May 24, 2010 10:09:31 GMT
So natural rain contains etheric energy, while water in piping doesn't (Tom said showers don't help either). Therefore, this lake must either be natural, or especially made to collect etheric energy. Since water treatment removes pathogens and stuff, perhaps the reason showers don't help is because the water has had all the "living" components destroyed, and that removes the etheric energy. It makes a sort of sense. Also, I'm beginning to wonder about how Zimmy and Gamma's telepathy works as well, and why the ether Zimmy gathers forms that eye gunk. Maybe it's like crude oil that needs to be refined before it can be used. Perhaps the eye gunk thing is separate from the etheric absorption issue, and is related to the spider. Maybe the spider's spins webs off of etheric energy and is therefore attracted to sources of it (like Zimmy, and apparently now jack).
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Post by todd on May 24, 2010 10:36:13 GMT
And that is why Zimmy isn't going to come back to the station. Nice! Which raises another unsettling question: what is Jack going to do when he realizes that Zimmy isn't going to show up? Let's hope his next attempt to find her won't make things even worse.
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Post by legion on May 24, 2010 10:39:28 GMT
Suddenly, answers!
Panel 4 = awesome
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Post by wanderer on May 24, 2010 14:38:44 GMT
Between panel 4 and the last panel this page has a high creepiness value.
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Post by CameoAppearance on May 24, 2010 14:43:12 GMT
Also, panel four is one of my favorite things that Tom has drawn. I think I've found myself an avvy. Awwww, I wanted to use that panel. Oh well.
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Post by Casey on May 24, 2010 15:30:20 GMT
Maybe the sudden loss of surrounding etheric energy due to the power station causes some kind of runaway reaction with Zimmy. Sort-of like how the loss of coolant and the low-power conditions at Chernobyl caused the disaster there. Let's not push metaphors too far. I think from what we saw it's more likely she was expecting release from the rain on the rooftop and when that didn't happen she just mentally cracked and lost control. This is how I interpreted the events at the Power Station as well.
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Post by Dvandaemon on May 24, 2010 16:02:50 GMT
Very lovely strip. Nice theories
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Post by basser on May 24, 2010 16:18:54 GMT
I like the 'it was drained of ether and thus didn't help' theory for the lake thing. Plus the it not having any little buggers in it if it comes from the pipes (as a water quality analyst I can attest to this being true. Drinking water from the tap should have NOTHING but chlorine and flouride in it, else someone is in big trouble.) But this raises the question: why doesn't she just go to a lake and, I dunno... have Gamma upturn a bucket over her head? Lots of buggers and algae in there for etheric energy. Or is there something about clouds that makes rain water work for her? Like.. sky ether or something? But then the power station rain would have worked regardless of pre-treatment. Guh.
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Post by fuckingretard on May 24, 2010 17:07:31 GMT
idk if this is a dumb question, but is there new info here? the station collects ether, we knew that...zimmy is connected to the ether and it hurts her, gamma cools her off, if she doesn't the monsters turn real...didn't we know all that? i thought this was supposed to be more of a summary or something than new info.
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Post by legion on May 24, 2010 17:18:40 GMT
Actually, maybe shower and artificial rain doesn't help because real rain is charged by ether in the clouds or something.
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Post by Casey on May 24, 2010 18:14:04 GMT
idk if this is a dumb question, but is there new info here? the station collects ether, we knew that...zimmy is connected to the ether and it hurts her, gamma cools her off, if she doesn't the monsters turn real...didn't we know all that? i thought this was supposed to be more of a summary or something than new info. Well I think that the clarification that Zimmy works as sort of an ether-node between worlds is, if not new, at least the first time we've had it spelled out for us exactly what's happening with her. And also the explanation that the connection or juxtaposition is for Zimmy a stressful and painful one explains why the manifestations are malevolent. In a sense, Zimmingham is the manifestation of Zimmy's ether-migraine.
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Post by alexscott on May 24, 2010 18:34:53 GMT
These theories about rainwater remind me of the Mikveh--the pools used in Judaism for ritual purification. Part of the requirement for a Mikveh is that it have to be filled with naturally occurring water, that is, from a spring, well, river, ocean, or rain; and it can't be carried or pumped in. The idea is that the natural water has power because it comes directly from God; whereas if a person or machine handles it, the water is profaned--that is, rendered ordinary. The ether station almost seems to be a highly literalized example of this.
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