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Post by Ulysses on Sept 4, 2009 19:23:24 GMT
Which name/design should we use for the [Swords] suit?
I've used Swords here just so we know what the original was.
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Post by warrl on Sept 4, 2009 19:31:50 GMT
If you've seen my response on the Cups and Coins polls, my "other" vote should be no surprised:
Long-bladed, short-handled medieval weapons. (Spades are not, primarily, weapons. As weapons they are closer to pole arms - short blades, really long handles - than to swords.)
If the card concept needs two-handed broadswords, use two-handed broadswords. If it needs daggers, use daggers.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 4, 2009 19:34:47 GMT
Spades as in ♠
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Post by Casey on Sept 4, 2009 19:39:17 GMT
Long-bladed, short-handled medieval weapons. (Spades are not, primarily, weapons. As weapons they are closer to pole arms - short blades, really long handles - than to swords. I apologize for disagreeing, but the word spade comes to us from the italian "spada" for sword. I think I mentioned before that I am a rapier fencer in the SCA, and a spada is one of the styles of sword that were in period. here's the etymology from dictionary.com: spade (2) "figure on playing cards," 1598, probably from It. spade, pl. of spada "sword, spade," from L. spatha "broad, flat weapon or tool," from Gk. spathe "broad blade" |
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Post by warrl on Sept 4, 2009 19:48:09 GMT
Long-bladed, short-handled medieval weapons. (Spades are not, primarily, weapons. As weapons they are closer to pole arms - short blades, really long handles - than to swords. I apologize for disagreeing, but the word spade comes to us from the italian "spada" for sword. I think I mentioned before that I am a rapier fencer in the SCA, and a spada is one of the styles of sword that were in period. here's the etymology from dictionary.com: spade (2) "figure on playing cards," 1598, probably from It. spade, pl. of spada "sword, spade," from L. spatha "broad, flat weapon or tool," from Gk. spathe "broad blade" Okay, I was thinking of "spade" in the sense of the English-language word. Which is a gardening tool. |
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Post by Casey on Sept 4, 2009 20:04:16 GMT
Which still evolved from the same root word.
You also appear to me to be describing a shovel, and not a spade. I don't know if you're in the US or the UK, but here, a spade is a hand-held instrument that looks almost exactly like the iconic card suit. A synonym would be a trowel... I think. Do you call the long-handled thing you step on to push into the dirt a spade? We call that a shovel.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 4, 2009 20:13:50 GMT
Are US shovels square or curved to a point? In the UK that's a spade and a shovel, respectively. A trowel would basically be a small shovel.
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Post by Casey on Sept 4, 2009 20:16:03 GMT
Are US shovels square or curved to a point? In the UK that's a spade and a shovel, respectively. A trowel would basically be a small shovel. |
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Post by Mishmash on Sept 6, 2009 22:55:36 GMT
A spade is a thing you dig things with.
And a small spade is a trowel. Also for digging.
I didn't think shovel was even an (British) English word, I thought it was an American invention.
Anyway I'm with warrl (sort-of) in calling it Swords but drawing any pointy weapon (dagger or whatever) that fits the card.
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Post by King Mir on Sept 12, 2009 17:11:27 GMT
Looks like this one's decided.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 15, 2009 16:52:38 GMT
Swords win!
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Post by cat on Nov 27, 2009 16:48:19 GMT
A sword that turns your will into a blade  Or maybe an ancient golden dagger  |
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