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Post by pepoluan on Jul 9, 2009 19:56:45 GMT
First, sorry if this has been asked before. Tried searching to no avail. My question is: Why are we referring to "Sir James Eglamore" (if the Wikia here is canon) as "Sir Eglamore"? According to Wikipedia here, the correct formal styling is to use it with the given name or full name, but never with the surname alone. That's all... hope nobody minds my nitpicking about this one... |
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Post by Tenebrais on Jul 9, 2009 21:27:11 GMT
They're in a school. Teachers are referred to by surname. None of the children, save for Annie, Kat and anyone else with some familiarity with him, would have a clue who "Sir James" was.
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Post by Casey on Jul 9, 2009 22:14:51 GMT
Another explanation can be found right in the wikia article you linked. "Sir Eglamore" is the name of the legend/song/whatever that James Eglamore's name comes from. No indication of whether or not "Eglamore" is a first name or surname in the original version.
Now for bonus points: Where exactly in the comic has anyone ever actually called James "Sir Eglamore"? Name every instance!
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Post by bisected8 on Jul 9, 2009 22:18:04 GMT
Come to think of it the only one I can recall calling him "Sir. Eglamore" was Ysengrin...
Didn't Tom confirm he'd been knighted (although by a different queen to the one in the real world) in one of the question topics?
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Post by todd on Jul 9, 2009 22:23:54 GMT
I've seen several cases on the Internet where people do use a "Sir [surname]" form, outside of "Gunnerkrigg Court", even though it's inaccurate. I suspect it's the same kind of thing as "alright" for "all right" "you're" for "your", "it's" for "its", "loose" for "lose", etc.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Jul 9, 2009 22:28:25 GMT
Todd, except for "alright/all right", all of those words are separate from one another and mean different things.
Yes, Eglamore was knighted by a Queen, but not the Queen ruling today.
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Post by todd on Jul 9, 2009 22:29:26 GMT
Yes, but unfortunately, a lot of people on the Internet misuse those words.
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Post by Casey on Jul 9, 2009 23:37:27 GMT
Bisected8 wins. The only time within the comic he is ever referred to as "Sir Eglamore" is by Ysengrin in Ch 20: Coyote Stories. And even then, it's said with sarcasm and derision.
Yes he is a Knight, knighted by the Queen of England in the Gunnerverse (whomever that might be), but even on the door of his office it says "Mr. J. Eglamore".
Thought you lads might find that little bit of trivia interesting.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Jul 10, 2009 2:21:23 GMT
If I recall correctly Tom said in the questions thread that he never actually has slain a dragon. Maybe Ysengrin thinks Jimmy doesn't deserve the title for some reason.
On another note, I think this is the busiest I have ever seen the forums. 14 threads have been updated today.
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Post by Chrome on Jul 10, 2009 4:18:15 GMT
I think the Dragon Slayer is more of a ceremonial role anyways. Eglamore said in the early part of Coyote Stories that dragons generally don't need slaying anymore, which would fit the idea.
Then there's the protector of the Court who has their role passed down from generation to generation. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a tendency to include a Dragon Slayer among those who were selected to become the protector until the Court made it a pre-requisite for the job.
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