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Post by neal on Apr 1, 2009 14:50:25 GMT
I am sad Eglamore interrupted. I wanted to see what Surma would do. I also have to note that this is not at all how Annie reacts to being teased. She doesn't get angry, she calmly sends a demon wolf to show them the true meaning of fear. Of course, Surma doesn't have a demon wolf, she'll just have to get by with a pubescent dragon slayer.
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Post by The Stranger on Apr 1, 2009 15:11:59 GMT
He was obviously about to call Surma a "custard-head", which is about the worst thing you can call a girl. If you're looking for bowdlerized insults, I'd say "cursed witch" would fit better. I am sad Eglamore interrupted. I wanted to see what Surma would do. I also have to note that this is not at all how Annie reacts to being teased. She doesn't get angry, she calmly sends a demon wolf to show them the true meaning of fear. Of course, Surma doesn't have a demon wolf, she'll just have to get by with a pubescent dragon slayer. I get the feeling Surma may have sucker punched him considerably harder.
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Post by chionophile on Apr 1, 2009 15:15:36 GMT
Was anyone else reminded of this?
Mal: Say that to my face. Jerk: I said, you're a coward and a piss-pot. Now what are ya gonna do about it? Mal: Nothing. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind you. Zoe sucker punches Jerk.
Not that I think Surma would intentionally use such tactics.
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Post by snes on Apr 1, 2009 15:31:52 GMT
I am sad Eglamore interrupted. I wanted to see what Surma would do. I also have to note that this is not at all how Annie reacts to being teased. She doesn't get angry, she calmly sends a demon wolf to show them the true meaning of fear. Of course, Surma doesn't have a demon wolf, she'll just have to get by with a pubescent dragon slayer. I think Jimmy needed to interrupt, as there was no thunder available and we're nowhere near the end of the chapter. As far as deus ex machinas go, a left hook was all we could hope for.
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Post by Max on Apr 1, 2009 16:14:03 GMT
Was anyone else reminded of this? Mal: Say that to my face. Jerk: I said, you're a coward and a piss-pot. Now what are ya gonna do about it? Mal: Nothing. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind you. Zoe sucker punches Jerk.Not that I think Surma would intentionally use such tactics. YES YES YES! I had rewatched this scene the night before and thought of it as soon as I read today's strip. For those of you who haven't seen itFirefly is awesome. Edit: scene it -> seen it. I can't spell
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Post by theoldwolf on Apr 1, 2009 18:45:25 GMT
Hehe! I had watched "Serenity" long ago, but never seen "Firefly" as I don't own a hypnogourd. My son just gave it to me on DVD... what an awesome series.
I never cease to be astonished at the amount of discussion this strip generates. It's a tribute to Tom's writing skill and his ability to create a believable world even within the parameters of fantasy. I love his characters and their humanity, in all its facets.
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Post by Miri on Apr 1, 2009 20:08:51 GMT
I never cease to be astonished at the amount of discussion this strip generates. It's a tribute to Tom's writing skill and his ability to create a believable world even within the parameters of fantasy. I love his characters and their humanity, in all its facets. Word. I like Hyland. The same way I like any villain. A character who can amply showcase how awesome other characters are! By being punched in the face! Awesome!
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Post by orangesodafish on Apr 1, 2009 20:14:14 GMT
Wait, wait, wait...
"WHUD!"? That... that just doesn't seem right.
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Post by sandjosieph on Apr 1, 2009 20:23:51 GMT
Hyland kinda reminds me of Jack. Or the kid who appeared near the bottom of the panel when Kat first met Ketrak.
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Post by fuzzyone on Apr 1, 2009 20:39:50 GMT
Hyland reminds me of a quote I heard somewhere, possibly in a show that was outlining the anatomy of a joke, hosted by Lewis Black... In the 'Dirty' portion of analyzing what the world's best joke would be, A British comedian Said something along the lines of, "Well, one of the main differences between British and American humor and tolerances is that what you in America consider to be one of the Absolute worst things to call a woman, We consider Punctuation."
And I don't think Surma would have sucker punched him... I think she'd have kicked him hard enough to make him cross-eyed and Soprano.
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Post by karakai on Apr 1, 2009 21:03:04 GMT
And I don't think Surma would have sucker punched him... I think she'd have kicked him hard enough to make him cross-eyed and Soprano. in a particlar spot, I'm sure!
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Post by Mezzaphor on Apr 1, 2009 21:55:48 GMT
I am sad Eglamore interrupted. I wanted to see what Surma would do. I also have to note that this is not at all how Annie reacts to being teased. She doesn't get angry, she calmly sends a demon wolf to show them the true meaning of fear. Of course, Surma doesn't have a demon wolf, she'll just have to get by with a pubescent dragon slayer. I also think it's interesting that Annie doesn't react at all to insults directed at her, but she'll (very calmly) take out anyone who bothers her friends (after all, she didn't sic Reynardine on those hecklers until she realized they were upsetting Kat). Seeing as Hyland is insulting all six of the kids with his comments, it's unclear if Surma's sticking up for her friends or just personally insulted. Or maybe both, I guess.
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Post by warrl on Apr 1, 2009 22:09:33 GMT
I also think it's interesting that Annie doesn't react at all to insults directed at her, but she'll (very calmly) take out anyone who bothers her friends (after all, she didn't sic Reynardine on those hecklers until she realized they were upsetting Kat). Twelve-year-old Annie is an introvert. She probably wouldn't care what those other kids were saying about her. From her perspective, the ideal treatment would be for them to pay her no more heed than is necessary to avoid collisions and let everyone get where they are going. Anything else, praise or condemnation, is a step down from that, and coming from the other end of the hallway it would be very easy to ignore - in fact, easier to ignore than to listen to. However, it bothered Kat, and she WOULD care about what bothers Kat. And folks, I know introvert. By introspection. Surma, here, is almost certainly NOT an introvert. (She was apparently ready to go to lunch in a gang of six people, and interact with others along the way.) Whole different subject.
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Post by preus on Apr 1, 2009 22:31:32 GMT
So I guess Hyland is the Winsbury of his generation? C'mon, I said that 12 posts before this guy. Why's everyone replying to him?
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Apr 2, 2009 3:57:01 GMT
Thirty years later and the general consensus remains the same. See also the fifth panel of #74, which was the first I thought of when they said they were from Chester. Chester South. Preus, stop fussing.
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Post by Count Casimir on Apr 2, 2009 4:21:23 GMT
So I guess Hyland is the Winsbury of his generation? C'mon, I said that 12 posts before this guy. Why's everyone replying to him? Haha, happens to all of us. I've seen it happen to me in at least two story threads, but life goes on.
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Post by Azeltir on Apr 2, 2009 4:32:13 GMT
See also the fifth panel of #74, which was the first I thought of when they said they were from Chester. Chester South Meh, when 74 rolled out, we only had the examples of Z&G. Of course, that's still all we have - but that one from 472 was really the first indication we got that the rest of the house may be just as peculiar as our favorite pair of telepathic girls. Ben
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Post by preus on Apr 2, 2009 5:38:12 GMT
Thirty years later and the general consensus remains the same. See also the fifth panel of #74, which was the first I thought of when they said they were from Chester. Chester South. Preus, stop fussing. Sprry. I have trouble keeping things in perspective sometimes.
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Post by The Stranger on Apr 2, 2009 8:00:56 GMT
So I guess Hyland is the Winsbury of his generation? C'mon, I said that 12 posts before this guy. Why's everyone replying to him? Look, I know it can be annoying to feel like you're ignored and I've had it happen tons of times that I would say something but people would only pick up on it when someone else says it, but... well, it's not something to fuss over, really. You just shouldn't take it personally when that happens and if people do talk about something you brought up earlier, then now's a good time to talk about what you wanted to, instead of talking about talking about what you want to, and... yeah. Anyhow! Relax, have fun, and don't get offended. Personally I have to agree that Winsbury is different from Hyland. Winsbury's the kind of kid who acts mean but isn't really, but Hyland is the kind who acts mean... and he really is. People are just sort of looking for someone they can associate with Hyland and because Winsbury's the closest it's easy to jump the gun. I am sad Eglamore interrupted. I wanted to see what Surma would do. I also have to note that this is not at all how Annie reacts to being teased. She doesn't get angry, she calmly sends a demon wolf to show them the true meaning of fear. Of course, Surma doesn't have a demon wolf, she'll just have to get by with a pubescent dragon slayer. I also think it's interesting that Annie doesn't react at all to insults directed at her, but she'll (very calmly) take out anyone who bothers her friends (after all, she didn't sic Reynardine on those hecklers until she realized they were upsetting Kat). Twelve-year-old Annie is an introvert. She probably wouldn't care what those other kids were saying about her. From her perspective, the ideal treatment would be for them to pay her no more heed than is necessary to avoid collisions and let everyone get where they are going. Anything else, praise or condemnation, is a step down from that, and coming from the other end of the hallway it would be very easy to ignore - in fact, easier to ignore than to listen to. However, it bothered Kat, and she WOULD care about what bothers Kat. And folks, I know introvert. By introspection. I really agree with you here. That's exactly how I read it too. I get the feeling that a lot of people here are extroverts, and so they just start making assumptions about Antimony's behavior in ways that... could make sense if she were an extrovert, but Antimony ranks pretty close to the extreme when it comes to introverts. I've seen some people discuss how they don't understand how Antimony was angry at Muut either and started to argue Muut meant the spirit across the river is angry, and not Annie. Surma, here, is almost certainly NOT an introvert. (She was apparently ready to go to lunch in a gang of six people, and interact with others along the way.) Whole different subject. This, though... I don't really know about that. I think you're right; Surma does seem like an extrovert, but I also think you're viewing introverts and extroverts as a "one or the other" thing where you can just draw a clean-cut line and there's no overlap. I don't think having lunch in a group of six makes you an extrovert; introverts are comfortable with friends too, and it's not like being an introvert means you can't have more than two friends or something. I think the biggest sign that she's an extrovert is probably the way she kind of went out of her way to pick a fight with Hyland in such an outspoken way. I think overall, though... I really wouldn't be surprised if Surma struck a balance between introversion and extroversion.
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Post by enelya on Apr 2, 2009 10:18:42 GMT
Does anyone else find it odd that Hyland says "shoulda left them in Chester", rather than "shoulda put them in Chester"? Maybe Surma or Brinnie were originally in Chester, and have been moved for some reason?
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Post by wombat on Apr 2, 2009 10:31:44 GMT
Does anyone else find it odd that Hyland says "shoulda left them in Chester", rather than "shoulda put them in Chester"? Maybe Surma or Brinnie were originally in Chester, and have been moved for some reason? That is interesting. Maybe we'll get a flashback in the flashback showing us a time when they were in Chester! I doubt, though I would love to see Chester. EDIT: So Brinnie is still in Chester. Maybe there's a seperation between other houses and Chester that's more than just different names. Maybe Chester kids generally just hang out with Chester kids and don't usually go to things like picture day. The other kids aren't having super strong reactions to a girl just teleporting by means of a glowing blue triangle. Maybe it's still weird, but stuff like that is somewhat common there, especially in Chester?
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Post by enelya on Apr 2, 2009 11:56:11 GMT
so Brinnie is still in Chester, but this still leaves wide open the possibility that Surma and at least one of the others were originally placed there. In fact this is the only way Hyland's comment makes sense - you wouldn't say "shoulda left them in chester" about someone that was still there, and that is a definate use of a plural term. Would also explain why the girls are such good friends when oppertunities for the different houses to mix are so limited.
There is some reaction from the other kids, but not a great deal of shock. I guess going to school at GC makes you used to odd stuff happening with no explanation, but this is not the kind of thing that the kids see every day.
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Post by warrl on Apr 2, 2009 14:50:58 GMT
C'mon, I said that 12 posts before this guy. Why's everyone replying to him? I really agree with you here. That's exactly how I read it too. I get the feeling that a lot of people here are extroverts, and so they just start making assumptions about Antimony's behavior in ways that... could make sense if she were an extrovert, but Antimony ranks pretty close to the extreme when it comes to introverts. I think that Annie is still working through her mother's death, and will be somewhat less introverted in time. But only somewhat. She'll never be mistaken for Party Girl.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Apr 2, 2009 17:51:52 GMT
Maybe Chester is the house that children with "special abilities" are put in. This could be practically anything in the Gunnerkrigg world, but it just may be interpreted by the other students as the house that all the retards are put in, which would explain why it has a sort of reputation.
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Post by Jonny Rocks Hard on Apr 2, 2009 19:25:21 GMT
Eglamore has probably always been my favorite character, and this strip just makes me like him even more. Not sure why, but he just has a lot of character in this strip.
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Post by tyler on Apr 2, 2009 19:26:07 GMT
It may be that Chester is where everyone who may not be 100% human goes to, as well. Children in question may be housed there until their lineage is determined. Extra abilities because you're a Valkyrie means you're stuck there, while just being a little magical gets you out into one of the other houses. It could also be due to tractability issues. Gamma, Zimmy, and Brinnie seem to come and go as they please.
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Post by mjh on Apr 2, 2009 20:13:58 GMT
It may be that Chester is where everyone who may not be 100% human goes to, as well. The suicide fairies are in Foley. A former fish too.
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Post by Chrome on Apr 3, 2009 0:10:16 GMT
Seems to me Foley is for the former woodland creatures - Faries, animals, etc. Chester seems more like the X-Mansion's general roster: Wackier-than-usual powers, unusual behaviors, and so on. Zimmy certainly qualifies under that heading, and so would Brinnie. It could also stand to reason that individuals either from the etherium, or with very strong links to the etherium, would wind up there. That would explain "Shoulda left them in Chester" because those criteria would extend to people like Surma as well. The other idea that comes to mind about "Shoulda left them in Chester" might be that it's a typical Gunnerverse insult at the school. Anyone considered fairly weird would be seen as belonging in Chester, or perhaps having been in Chester - even if they weren't. Either way, I like Eggers' sucker punch.
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Post by snes on Apr 3, 2009 2:56:31 GMT
Makes me wonder what's different about Thornhill. Queslett seems to be the "Griffondoor" of the school: all the normal kids, including the heroes (yes, I just made a parallel between GC and Harry Potter).
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Post by Dentrala on Apr 3, 2009 3:45:00 GMT
Makes me wonder what's different about Thornhill. Queslett seems to be the "Griffondoor" of the school: all the normal kids, including the heroes (yes, I just made a parallel between GC and Harry Potter). And may God have mercy on your soul.
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