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Post by todd on Mar 30, 2009 22:21:02 GMT
I don't think that Odin's going to show up in the near future, since Tom's already said that Coyote will be the only god appearing in the comic for some time. But I find the idea of Brinnie having some link to Norse mythology (maybe a junior Valkyrie in training) appealing.
Since the Valkyries' function in Norse myth was to bring warriors slain in battle to Valhalla, they'd count as Guides. Since apparently all the other children can see Brinnie, if she *is* a Valkyrie, either she hasn't become a full-fledged Guide yet, or else she's allowing herself to be visible to everyone, the way Muut made himself visible to Kat in the last chapter.
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Post by Wahad on Mar 30, 2009 22:26:22 GMT
He did it in the questions thread.
The Odin-theory seems semi-plausible. Although Brunhild/Brinne is, as we know, Scandinavian, she would have to have great potential to receive direct training from Odin himself, instead of from a minor deity/mythical being. Being a junior valkyrie would make her such a person. I doubt it though, and instead propose that 'the old man' is just the temporal equivalent of Jones or some other teacher.
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Post by ding on Mar 30, 2009 22:53:49 GMT
Now that we can add Norse symbols to Gunnerkrigg's expanding lexicon, I'm curious what people think about the Court as a mythological melting pot?
Is the setting designed to comment on myths in general, or does it enhance the already sophisticated drama, Sandman-style?
Or does the blend of science fiction and mythology, and the conflict that resulted, hint at some kind of commentary, A Wrinkle In Time style?
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Post by clementine on Mar 30, 2009 23:00:06 GMT
I...you guys, I think you all just broke my mind with the (correct) deduction on Brinnie's identity. Also Tom's ZAM and Brinnie's amazing glowing eyes helped.
"Is such stupid thing, we cannot even have lunch together anymore." -- That makes me wonder if whoever sent her to the Court dislikes her having human friends/enjoying herself when she's supposed to be being punished by her banishment.
Also, Surma and Annie have their noses drawn distinctly differently. Just a little observation.
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Post by todd on Mar 31, 2009 0:03:28 GMT
I'm surprised that Tom actually confirmed the "Brinnie" theory just like that, in the questions thread - unless he was either joking or the mystery wasn't that important to the story (as in Brinnie being a bit character).
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Post by Azeltir on Mar 31, 2009 0:31:46 GMT
todd, people who ZAM! away aren't going to be bit characters. I think it was rather kind of Tom to confirm the speculations of the various sleuth-ish people in this thread. Congrats to all those who were on the right track!
Now, lets see how those Scandanavian mythos interact with the ones we've seen so far.
Ben
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Post by warrl on Mar 31, 2009 0:32:30 GMT
(although Loki was the Norse equivalent of Coyote) In the same sense that a poisoner is the equivalent of a pharmacist. |
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Post by Count Casimir on Mar 31, 2009 0:37:55 GMT
Brinnie is a valkyrie?
Gawd I love Tom's characters. The previous sentence does not do my emotion justice.
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Post by snes on Mar 31, 2009 0:46:54 GMT
Hm. I wonder how valkyries are going to play out in the Gunnerverse? I was under the impression that they were more spiritual entities like angels than a race of beings like faeries.
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Post by sandjosieph on Mar 31, 2009 2:24:09 GMT
How do you pronounce "Brynhildr" anyway? Would that be like Brin-hilder or sometin'?
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Post by Dentrala on Mar 31, 2009 3:11:16 GMT
I personally wouldn't be surprised if Fenir showed up. Already, Ysengrimus (Ysengrin) and Reynaerde, (Reynardine) who are both mythological wolf and fox respectively, have appeared from the old myth "Ysengrimus".
EDIT: Removed all my stuff after seeing the questions thread. <,<
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Post by mudmaniac on Mar 31, 2009 9:45:12 GMT
I'm surprised that Tom actually confirmed the "Brinnie" theory just like that, in the questions thread - unless he was either joking or the mystery wasn't that important to the story (as in Brinnie being a bit character). I think before this, when someone asked who "that girl" was, Tom replied something to the tune of "Nobody important"... i think. its been a while. |
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Post by biggerj on Mar 31, 2009 10:31:07 GMT
Hm. I wonder how valkyries are going to play out in the Gunnerverse? I was under the impression that they were more spiritual entities like angels than a race of beings like faeries. Brinnie appears to be a special case. Tom said that she was sent to Earth as punishment for insubordination. I think before this, when someone asked who "that girl" was, Tom replied something to the tune of "Nobody important"... i think. its been a while. This is consistent with my sneaking suspicion that this is an elaborate April Fool's Day prank. |
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Post by wombat on Mar 31, 2009 10:43:35 GMT
The April Fool's Day theory is sounding more and more likely to me.
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Post by todd on Mar 31, 2009 10:47:13 GMT
I'm still amazed that Tom just revealed the information in the forum, like that - and I hope that he's serious and isn't pulling our legs as a April Fool's Day joke, as has been suggested above. Because I still really like the idea.
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Post by Klex on Mar 31, 2009 11:28:28 GMT
I think before this, when someone asked who "that girl" was, Tom replied something to the tune of "Nobody important"... i think. its been a while. He was talking about Tea. |
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Post by Tom Siddell on Mar 31, 2009 12:55:58 GMT
The April Fool's Day theory is sounding more and more likely to me. Well, I certainly don't have to answer any questions. Considering whatever I say can be passed off a lies now I don't see much point in it any more. |
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Post by Rasselas on Mar 31, 2009 13:06:14 GMT
You haven't lied thus far, so there is absolutely no precedent for anyone to think so. At least not to those of us who follow closely what you say.
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Post by audacity on Mar 31, 2009 13:19:13 GMT
The April Fool's Day theory is sounding more and more likely to me. Well, I certainly don't have to answer any questions. Considering whatever I say can be passed off a lies now I don't see much point in it any more. Aw, Tom! We here in the forums don't think you're a liar. The people who do, in the comments on the comic itself, are demonstrably stupid. Please don't stop answering our questions! Also, I think it's really cool that this one was accurately figured out! Usually Tom has everyone pretty stumped. Way to google, guys! |
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Post by Cassiopea The Grande on Mar 31, 2009 13:37:58 GMT
Gamma's mum! Gamma's mum! I always thought she looked like Gamma.
... Maybe Janet's...
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Post by mudmaniac on Mar 31, 2009 13:49:50 GMT
The April Fool's Day theory is sounding more and more likely to me. Well, I certainly don't have to answer any questions. Considering whatever I say can be passed off a lies now I don't see much point in it any more. My guess would be that very rarely do you give such full, informative answers that most minds cannot even wrap themselves around the idea. Please don't stop answering questions. It adds a breadth of dimension to this story that I would so sorely miss. |
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Post by Per on Mar 31, 2009 14:43:50 GMT
Congratulations to cyberwolf001 for the Odin catch. I was under the impression that they were more spiritual entities like angels than a race of beings like faeries. Yeps, their category is more like "muses" or "furies" than "elves" or "giants". Their exact nature varies slightly depending on which source you look at. Sometimes their duties were conflated more or less with those of the norns, which are definitely divine/mystic, while at other times they were described as mortals (possibly reincarnated in succession) who were appointed and empowered for the purpose. It says on Wikipedia there's a theory that they gradually evolved from fearsome supernatural beings to near-mortals who could interact romantically with mortal men, which one can imagine would have boosted their popularity. It is interesting that in Norse mythology, divinity is on the whole less clear-cut than in some others. If you can do magic, you're sort of halfway up the power scale already. What I'm wondering now is how old Brinne is, physically and/or mentally. Has she been kiddified as part of the punishment? Is this her natural appearance? Is she newly reincarnated? Or is she simply a young new recruit? If she spends most of her time with the old man, and that is Odin, how is she banished to GC/the mortal world? Is she old enough to have done something she wasn't supposed to anyway, or is this simply pre-banishment? Oh! I figured out what Brinnie's full name is. Since Annie is short for Antimony, Brinnie must be short for Brintimony. And, and Donny is short for Dontimony! *tumbleweed* |
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Post by penguinfactory on Mar 31, 2009 18:29:55 GMT
Of all the possible explanations for Brinnie, I did not see this coming. Gunnerkrigg Court just keeps getting better and better!
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Post by fjodor on Mar 31, 2009 21:12:02 GMT
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Post by popo on Mar 31, 2009 21:45:54 GMT
Oh! I figured out what Brinnie's full name is. Since Annie is short for Antimony, Brinnie must be short for Brintimony. And, and Donny is short for Dontimony! *tumbleweed* and Smitty is short for Smitimony |
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Post by todd on Mar 31, 2009 22:30:42 GMT
Brinnie could be reincarnated, since in the Norse legends, Brynhild wound up dying as part of the tragedy surrounding Sigurd's death (Siegfried's death in the Wagner version).
On the other hand, the events surrounding Brynhild's disobedience to Odin and its consequences might be different in the Gunnerkrigg Court universe than the Norse legends claim; we might be dealing with the same kind of phenomenon as the distortion of Theseus gatecrashing and wrecking Basil's birthday party into Theseus heroically slaying the monstrous Minotaur.
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Post by sandjosieph on Mar 31, 2009 22:48:49 GMT
I just noticed that Jeanne was in the background there. And that Kat is using her right hand while Annie is using her left. Huh... |
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Post by Per on Mar 31, 2009 22:57:06 GMT
Odin charged her with rounding up a dozen roboxes and she turned up with boxbots and was all "WHAT". Bam! BANISHED.
I think if someone were to run a character poll right now, Brinnie would have a good chance at the top slots. Back then Parley and Smitty were the new characters and they both did well. It's been almost a year, hint hint?
Parley... Parlentimony? Aly = Alimony.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Mar 31, 2009 23:28:42 GMT
Here's a fun fact:
Byrnhildr is the Valkyrie that Bugs Bunny dresses up as in the cartoon classic "What's Opera Doc?"
Yeah, that one. Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!
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Post by snes on Mar 31, 2009 23:43:26 GMT
Here's a fun fact: Byrnhildr is the Valkyrie that Bugs Bunny dresses up as in the cartoon classic "What's Opera Doc?" Yeah, that one. Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!Holy cheese! Now I'll be looking for someone in the comic saying "Oh Byrnhildr, you're so lovely!" |
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