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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 18, 2024 7:05:15 GMT
Hello (hello hello) is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Looks like it is working. Last panel: Looks like Renard and Antimony's link.
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Post by exquisitecorpus on Oct 18, 2024 7:15:18 GMT
Looks like Kat's finally found a way to peer into the Ether.
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Post by hnau on Oct 18, 2024 7:17:33 GMT
Looks like Kat's finally found a way to peer into the Ether. ... and to see speech bubbles. |
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Post by blahzor on Oct 18, 2024 8:08:37 GMT
Robot should have responded "M one A one
At a thousand miles an hour
Gorillaz got the base drum
Gorillaz say I want some, some"
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Post by Eversist on Oct 18, 2024 8:11:17 GMT
"Oh mah gaaaaaaaaahhhhh, you guys! Hiiiiii~~~"
So... is this being displayed on a computer screen...? Or more abstractly in Robot's brain? Interesting...
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Post by stef1987 on Oct 18, 2024 8:14:34 GMT
Is it me, or does robot kinda looks like the seed bismuth?
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Post by Igniz on Oct 18, 2024 8:51:05 GMT
Robot should have responded "M one A one At a thousand miles an hour Gorillaz got the base drum Gorillaz say I want some, some" La la la la la la la hey! |
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Post by tibert on Oct 18, 2024 10:17:06 GMT
Is it me, or does robot kinda looks like the seed bismuth?
Definitely (if Kat is the cube)
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A belated realisation: Omega may have abstained to kidnap Kat lest she broadcasts her position through her black eyes.
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Post by hoob on Oct 18, 2024 11:11:28 GMT
 I totally read this page wrong the first time. Tom's visual language for the ether usually follows a line of action, with panels being elided or implicitly separated. The ether's telltale sign is the black background we see here that usually sits behind the other panels. I followed the line of action that goes through panels 1,2,3,6,5,4 in order and was really confused. Kat and Robot are definitely inexperienced in the ether, so their perspective literally cuts off parts of robot's cube in the panel borders they place. Edit: whoops, meant to say Kat's cube |
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Post by yhbc on Oct 18, 2024 11:15:20 GMT
"Can you feel me near you?"
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Post by stef1987 on Oct 18, 2024 11:34:20 GMT
View AttachmentI totally read this page wrong the first time. Tom's visual language for the ether usually follows a line of action, with panels being elided or implicitly separated. The ether's telltale sign is the black background we see here that usually sits behind the other panels. I followed the line of action that goes through panels 1,2,3,6,5,4 in order and was really confused. Kat and Robot are definitely inexperienced in the ether, so their perspective literally cuts off parts of robot's cube in the panel borders they place. Robot's the purple stuff, Kat's the cube |
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 18, 2024 13:16:13 GMT
Interesting developments for Kat.
No angular speech bubble for Robot. I wonder how his "voice" has changed. But I guess, we've never really seen a "thought" bubble for them.
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Post by feliszerda on Oct 18, 2024 13:18:46 GMT
Looks like Kat's finally found a way to peer into the Ether. That's what worries me. Depending on how literal "adding visual", "running an overlay" are, might this give Omega a peek at what Annie and Renard are discussing? (e.g. if she's running it on a screen and speakers). Let's hope whatever this is, it's internal to its viewer. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 18, 2024 13:21:30 GMT
Confirmed: the entire comic is a setup for this Ether-net pun
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Post by morrahadesigns on Oct 18, 2024 13:26:55 GMT
THE PLOT!! SHE THICKENS!!!
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Post by Sky Schemer on Oct 18, 2024 14:24:28 GMT
"OK. I'm sharing now. Can you see my screen?"
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 18, 2024 14:43:14 GMT
"OK. I'm sharing now. Can you see my screen?" Ah, video conferences - the modern seance "Are you there? Can you hear us? If so, give us a sign..." |
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Post by blahzor on Oct 18, 2024 15:38:41 GMT
Is it me, or does robot kinda looks like the seed bismuth? he's not the seed until he gets sent back in time |
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Post by Gemminie on Oct 18, 2024 15:47:57 GMT
After Kat and Shadow watch Robot basically seal himself into a cocoon within the growth tank (the last frame showed this from within the tank, looking out at Shadow and Kat, as a POV transition of sorts), we now apparently see things from Robot's point of view. Initially all is dark. Robot's speaking, and his dialogue balloons are green, as before, but now rounded, unlike the angular shapes used for robots. He hears Kat's voice, shown with a pale blue background. They're communicating! This was a bit visually confusing, because the first panel is just black with dialogue balloons and takes up the top half of the page, then the bottom half is divided into three panels. But because of how things are distributed across those three panels, it looked for a moment as if the flow went the opposite direction, in a backwards "S" sort of progression. But that's not the case. In the next panel, Kat says she's "adding visual," and what appears is a pixelated image of a gray cube, which Kat's dialogue balloons' tails point to, and a floating pink Bismuth crystal similar to what we see at the heart of the New People in the Ether within the distortion. I'm guessing that represents Robot, while the cube represents Kat. She says she's "running an overlay directly," whatever she means by that. The image's resolution improves, but then some distance away there's a bright point of red light. Kat wonders what that is. The cube seems to approach, and it's lit red on the near side (and cut off by the panel boundary, which confuses the cube's shape a bit). We see that the red light is coming from Annie, who is talking with Renard in the Ether. There are dialogue balloons pointing at both of them, but they aren't filled in, suggesting that Kat's too far away to hear more than the mere fact that they're talking. Tom's comment is "What's this?" But if I'm reading this correctly, this means that we're seeing things from a point of view in the Ether, and that Kat and probably Robot as well are able to at least hear what Annie and Renard are saying to each other in the Ether. Our protagonists may have cracked the problem of being able to communicate without being overheard by Omega. This kind of leaves Shadow out, but I'm not certain. We haven't established whether Shadow can or can't see the Ether; most Forest denizens seem to be able to, but it's unclear whether the shadow people can. Can Omega overhear? Kat's probably doing this via her direct neural interface, so it's not as if she's speaking or typing messages that Omega could look at, but there are still bioelectrical brain signals being translated into computer signals by her implant. We know Omega can't read minds, but she can certainly detect those bioelectrical and electronic signals – however, can she understand them? I mean, one could use an antenna to pick up wi-fi signals and display them on an oscilloscope screen, thus experiencing them as directly as it's possible to, but interpreting them is another matter, especially with the unaided brain in real time. Omega isn't a computer; she just lives inside a machine. Meanwhile, in the physical world within the distortion, what's going on? Is Robot still in a cocoon? Will he sprout into a new form? What's Shadow seeing? Also, what's Kat's "overlay?" She mentions that right after "adding visual," which probably means she's getting some kind of visual feedback data from Robot's CPU. Is the "overlay" the gray cube that Kat's added to this space, sort of her virtual avatar (a very easy one to render)? "Kat! You're a ... cube now! Is the pink blob Robot? Welcome to the Ether!" |
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Post by Eversist on Oct 18, 2024 15:52:55 GMT
Is it me, or does robot kinda looks like the seed bismuth? he's not the seed until he gets sent back in time Oh dip. Is this a brilliant fringe theory I somehow have missed? Haha. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 18, 2024 15:54:45 GMT
Is it me, or does robot kinda looks like the seed bismuth? All the New People in the distortion show a bit of bismuth in their etheric projections (c.f. 2825) |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 18, 2024 15:58:50 GMT
So while Kat and Robot are playing inside screensaver-land, it looks like Rey and Annie aren't even part of this conversation. Or they're having a separate convo.
BTW, it seems like there are panels in this comic, because those blobby purple things and the top of the (Robot box? Kat box?) are cut off at the top, and the cuts line up.
**BIG IF** If this is the Ether, then maybe Kat and Robot are blobby purple things and a cube because they're not used to visualizing themselves in Ether space? But it feels more like something Kat just invented on the fly, like an artificial Ether substitute.
"What's that?" is pointing at the cube, but all the speech bubbles are the same color at the bottom, which makes it look like Kat is talking to herself.
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Post by Gemminie on Oct 18, 2024 17:14:27 GMT
he's not the seed until he gets sent back in time Oh dip. Is this a brilliant fringe theory I somehow have missed? Haha. No, I think it's just that the Seed Bismuth seems to have existed in the distant past and doesn't seem to exist anymore now. |
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Post by Sky Schemer on Oct 18, 2024 18:15:52 GMT
"OK. I'm sharing now. Can you see my screen?" Ah, video conferences - the modern seance "Are you there? Can you hear us? If so, give us a sign..." "Also, if you're talking, you're on mute" |
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Post by hoob on Oct 18, 2024 22:27:48 GMT
So while Kat and Robot are playing inside screensaver-land, it looks like Rey and Annie aren't even part of this conversation. Or they're having a separate convo. BTW, it seems like there are panels in this comic, because those blobby purple things and the top of the (Robot box? Kat box?) are cut off at the top, and the cuts line up. **BIG IF** If this is the Ether, then maybe Kat and Robot are blobby purple things and a cube because they're not used to visualizing themselves in Ether space? But it feels more like something Kat just invented on the fly, like an artificial Ether substitute. "What's that?" is pointing at the cube, but all the speech bubbles are the same color at the bottom, which makes it look like Kat is talking to herself. Of course Kat's self-conception is the default blender cube, she hasn't started on a 3d model for herself yet. Kat might be the only programmer to get legs working in the metaverse |
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Post by csj on Oct 19, 2024 0:45:38 GMT
View AttachmentI totally read this page wrong the first time. Tom's visual language for the ether usually follows a line of action, with panels being elided or implicitly separated. The ether's telltale sign is the black background we see here that usually sits behind the other panels. I followed the line of action that goes through panels 1,2,3,6,5,4 in order and was really confused. Kat and Robot are definitely inexperienced in the ether, so their perspective literally cuts off parts of robot's cube in the panel borders they place. Edit: whoops, meant to say Kat's cube wasn't just you, it's the expected norm for paneless comic design |
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Post by Hatredman on Oct 19, 2024 4:29:05 GMT
Looks like Kat's finally found a way to peer into the Ether. Looks like Kat figured out Deus ex machina. |
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Post by blahzor on Oct 19, 2024 5:05:15 GMT
Oh dip. Is this a brilliant fringe theory I somehow have missed? Haha. No, I think it's just that the Seed Bismuth seems to have existed in the distant past and doesn't seem to exist anymore now. Seed took a vacation until it was born then goes to live it's life built the court in the far past |
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Post by blahzor on Oct 19, 2024 6:40:49 GMT
Looks like Kat's finally found a way to peer into the Ether. That's what worries me. Depending on how literal "adding visual", "running an overlay" are, might this give Omega a peek at what Annie and Renard are discussing? (e.g. if she's running it on a screen and speakers). Let's hope whatever this is, it's internal to its viewer. Kat moved past screens awhile back. She sees it in her eyes directly now |
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Post by Hatredman on Oct 19, 2024 10:47:10 GMT
Kat moved past screens awhile back. She sees it in her eyes directly now Yes, but it's a physical thing, so it's atoms, so Omega can see. |
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