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Post by arf on Jul 22, 2024 7:07:21 GMT
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Post by Corvo on Jul 22, 2024 7:17:09 GMT
Eglamore looks weird in the last panel.
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Post by rafk on Jul 22, 2024 7:39:31 GMT
Kat is Very Disappointed In You, Robot.
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Post by silicondream on Jul 22, 2024 9:12:58 GMT
Interesting contrast in conversational dynamics with the last scene. It's much easier to monologue when almost everyone around you either worships you or is incapable of speech.
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Post by tibert on Jul 22, 2024 10:33:04 GMT
Interesting contrast in conversational dynamics with the last scene. It's much easier to monologue when almost everyone around you either worships you or is incapable of speech. No need to rush to restore Robot's speech. Speech doesn't seem to do much good to the Seraphs anyway.
The monologue gives the readers the long-awaited (by me at least) Kat's reaction in a compact form. So far, so good for me. (I wonder if Kat has been told about Robot's execution fantasies. Perhaps it was too much of a awkward thing for Shadow to relay?)
Once Robot speaks, and the Seraphs manage to utter a complete sentence, it may be time for further revelations for Kat and the readers.
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Isn't Kat using the word "fanatic" in relation to her cult a first?
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If my body was destroyed, my mind transferred to a temporary one, and some science wizard was in the process of creating me a body arguably better than the original, it would sound strange to my ears to hear her describing me as someone just "interested in my work".
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Post by silicondream on Jul 22, 2024 10:55:43 GMT
Isn't Kat using the word "fanatic" in relation to her cult a first? That I can think of, yes. It's odd that she blames Robot for this; the Seraphs were acting as religious secret police long before they allied with him. If he hadn't demonstrated Kat's Creator qualifications to them, they would have destroyed his body again, put him back in CPU prison, blown the whistle on Kat's research and turned Shadow over to the Court. They were always dangerous fanatics, and it's only thanks to Robot that they considered Kat an asset rather than an obstacle. His behavior during "The Torn Sea" mostly sucked, but his impact on robot culture has been massively positive. I don't see anyone getting paperclipped these days. |
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Post by Igniz on Jul 22, 2024 10:55:44 GMT
On the other hand, Kat also became fanatical of her own work...
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Post by morrahadesigns on Jul 22, 2024 13:06:43 GMT
I kind of want to hear what the seraph was going to say.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 22, 2024 13:26:33 GMT
"Ah - we - actually we already were fanatics since long before you were born."
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Post by tibert on Jul 22, 2024 17:02:42 GMT
Isn't Kat using the word "fanatic" in relation to her cult a first? That I can think of, yes. It's odd that she blames Robot for this; the Seraphs were acting as religious secret police long before they allied with him. If he hadn't demonstrated Kat's Creator qualifications to them, they would have destroyed his body again, put him back in CPU prison, blown the whistle on Kat's research and turned Shadow over to the Court.
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Post by blahzor on Jul 22, 2024 18:07:35 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Jul 22, 2024 18:10:00 GMT
"Ah - we - actually we already were fanatics since long before you were born." but due to recurrsive time or something we've been fanatical for you just not in name...actually have you watched Arrival? |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 22, 2024 18:30:11 GMT
It's never fun to have a "talking to", but to have one from your god must hit different.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 22, 2024 18:46:24 GMT
Ye Gods, that last panel. Kat is not having any of your "Well Actually". bot-splaining.
But sooner or later she is going to have to stop monologuing.
All of this is happening, I assume, while Annie is dealing with glib evil Meg.
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Post by drmemory on Jul 22, 2024 19:12:26 GMT
I'm not sure why exactly Robot can't speak. I guess the form the distortion gave him can't? Still, if it's robotic at all, Kat ought to be able to wire him up. Also, wasn't he talking in his previous scene, with Annie and Omega and Shadow and all? I mean, that's how Shadow knows his sins to start with...
Maybe she'll attach him to a speaker when she's done letting him know how disappointed she is.
Unless, of course, something exciting happens - we ARE still in the distortion, after all, and emotions are riding high!
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Post by Per on Jul 22, 2024 20:24:11 GMT
"Ah - we - are actually the thankless protagonists of a spinoff comic where we work behind the scenes to shield you from the consequences of an unrevealed prophecy involving celestial bureaucracy, time warps, tea pots, Daleks and -"
"BOTSPLAINING"
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Post by mturtle7 on Jul 22, 2024 21:59:43 GMT
Isn't Kat using the word "fanatic" in relation to her cult a first? That I can think of, yes. It's odd that she blames Robot for this; the Seraphs were acting as religious secret police long before they allied with him. If he hadn't demonstrated Kat's Creator qualifications to them, they would have destroyed his body again, put him back in CPU prison, blown the whistle on Kat's research and turned Shadow over to the Court. They were always dangerous fanatics, and it's only thanks to Robot that they considered Kat an asset rather than an obstacle. His behavior during "The Torn Sea" mostly sucked, but his impact on robot culture has been massively positive. I don't see anyone getting paperclipped these days. Both Annie and Kat have long seemed to have a bit of an "out of sight, out of mind" attitude towards the robots, which I'm guessing is just the result of the larger Court culture doing the same. The religiously fanatical secret police and their secret robot jail weren't really a problem before because they were, well, secret. If they were a problem before, surely the other robots would have said something, right? ...Right?!? Anyway, Robot is the one who pushed them to make this one, HIGHLY VISIBLE act that directly impacted HUMANS, so Kat's naturally very determined to conclude that Robot is responsible for making them "fanatics".
On a related note, what exactly the consequences of Robot's preaching have been over the last few years is not entirely clear. Sure, we know that it led to a lot of robots suddenly getting really invested in the continued progress and safety of Kat's work, but we don't actually know, for example, how heretics to the Church of Kat (if they exist) are being handled. For all we know, the paperclip machines have been working overtime to make sure that the only robots we see are slavishly devoted to Kat! I don't think that's actually what's happening, but like. It doesn't seem right to just rule it out, without making sure.
I'm not sure why exactly Robot can't speak. I guess the form the distortion gave him can't? Still, if it's robotic at all, Kat ought to be able to wire him up. Also, wasn't he talking in his previous scene, with Annie and Omega and Shadow and all? I mean, that's how Shadow knows his sins to start with... Maybe she'll attach him to a speaker when she's done letting him know how disappointed she is. Unless, of course, something exciting happens - we ARE still in the distortion, after all, and emotions are riding high! I think back in Devil's Due, the big winged barnacle thing was Robot's body, and his current bug form is actually just a distorted version of his CPU, which is why he can't speak anymore. As to why Kat isn't hooking him up with a replacement, IDK. Possibly she left her old docking station at home, and is doesn't have time to make another one right now. Or maybe this distorted form isn't compatible with any of her equipment anymore. Or maybe she's just really cross with him and had given in to the petty urge to keep her audience both captive and silent...honestly, that one seems likely to me, given the last title of today's page. |
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Post by Hatredman on Jul 22, 2024 23:54:38 GMT
One thing nobody commented is that Kat's Lab is inside the distortion. The seraphs are proof. I bet the flowers are distortion-generated, because it's been days (weeks?) since the real flowers were coming.
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Post by blahzor on Jul 23, 2024 6:26:16 GMT
Ye Gods, that last panel. Kat is not having any of your "Well Actually". bot-splaining. But sooner or later she is going to have to stop monologuing. All of this is happening, I assume, while Annie is dealing with glib evil Meg. She's a new parent to a few hundred people she's not good at discipline yet |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 23, 2024 12:50:03 GMT
One thing nobody commented is that Kat's Lab is inside the distortion. The seraphs are proof. I bet the flowers are distortion-generated, because it's been days (weeks?) since the real flowers were coming. That has been clear before, since everyone could bwip there and back, and Omega's body works well there.
It's never fun to have a "talking to", but to have one from your god must hit different. Perhaps he's still hoping to be executed. |
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Post by morrahadesigns on Jul 23, 2024 14:04:49 GMT
"Ah - we - actually we already were fanatics since long before you were born." but due to recurrsive time or something we've been fanatical for you just not in name...actually have you watched Arrival? Arrival was such a refreshing storyline to me. Finally an alien movie where it wasn't all explosions and war. (Don't get me wrong, Independence Day and Mars Attacks are great!) I Went into the theater having managed to not see a single preview so all I knew was that is was about aliens. Zero clue what to expect. One of the best movie experiences ever. |
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Post by morrahadesigns on Jul 23, 2024 14:09:10 GMT
One thing nobody commented is that Kat's Lab is inside the distortion. The seraphs are proof. I bet the flowers are distortion-generated, because it's been days (weeks?) since the real flowers were coming. Has it been that long in the comic? Annie and Kat were discussing her breakup with Paz when Jerrek and Lana showed up and he confessed to being Loup. Then to show his sincerity he went and retrieved all the remaining robot cpus, confessed to Annie that he was in love, and that's what triggered Coyote's return and this while mess. I think in comic time this has maybe been a few hours at most. |
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Post by hoob on Jul 23, 2024 18:39:07 GMT
It's my understanding that it's still the day that started Chapter 89. Tom's pretty good at signalling when time has passed
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 23, 2024 19:34:38 GMT
Kat is continuing to process what she's learned about Robot, who is unable to respond. Is he able to hear? That's unclear. But anyway, Kat now knows the Torn Sea incident was Robot's doing. Panel 3 shows her feeling sad about it, or perhaps sad about not having known at the time. Then we back out to see more of this scene. Kat, Robot, and Shadow are in the room (or one of the rooms) where Kat's been keeping the flowers the NP have been sending/giving her. Apparently the Seraphs are just outside the door but aren't allowed in, and Kat turns her attention to them. She assumes that they became fanatics because of Robot, which is an ... oversimplification. One of them attempts to correct her, but she cuts him off.
Yes, in truth it appears that Robot, who was then one of the Seraphs, became a fanatic at some point long ago, possibly before Kat's birth, but certainly before Annie came to the Court, because the rest of them rejected his message and had him dismantled, his parts put into a box and super well hidden. But then, after the bridge incident, which resulted in the destruction of his body, Kat started experimenting with new bodies for his CPU, as we know, and he started proselytizing again, this time having seemingly found the Angel he'd been foretelling. Again he had to drag the Seraphs along with him, proving to them that Kat was the one. But he finally convinced them, and after that they were basically his co-conspirators. It's difficult to say what their directive or purpose was before then. But what started Robot proselytizing in the first place, back before Kat met Annie, or perhaps even before Kat's birth (we don't know how long his parts sat in that box).
Could something bad happen as a result of Kat disallowing anyone to correct her misconception here? I'm not sure about that, but it does raise the possibility that she might reveal other misconceptions she has, which Robot can't correct, Shadow may not know enough to correct, and she won't allow the Seraphs to correct.
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Post by Igniz on Jul 24, 2024 7:01:45 GMT
Speaking of which, it's been years since the ungrateful toaster stopped referring to Annie as "mommy" to instead focus on his cultist profession.  |
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