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Post by pyradonis on May 23, 2024 10:56:08 GMT
I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the concept of predicting you won't be able to predict the future. Annie was supposed to die and Kat used time travel to save her. Did Omega predict time travel would be used, thus messing up with her predictive abilities? Does the ether (being "invisible") create more and more instability, as was said before there ? www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2606Can she predict several timelines ? I think that's exactly what she cannot. She might see the original timeline, in which Annie dies and at some point later, Kat uses time travel to prevent Annie's death - Omega sees Kat using time travel and knows what her objective is - but she cannot see the new timeline. She only knows that it will be changed - even if Kat fails her objective, due to the butterfly effect, even the tiniest changes will have increasing consequences in the long run. And if Omega sees to which point(s) in time the Tic-Toc is sent, she can even predict from which point on her predictions will start to grow inaccurate, even if she is unable to say how great the magnitude of those inaccuracies will be. |
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Post by morrahadesigns on May 23, 2024 12:44:17 GMT
Speculation that Omega has an issue with Annie feels incorrect to me. I think Omega wants to meet her, wants to see what kind of person can create the anomaly that she does and how/why. Technically I think she wants to meet both girls because while Annie is the catalyst, Kat is the actual cause. So far I don't get the sense of any aggression here. Yeah I'm on Team "Omega TOTALLY wants Annie to exist to the point that she orchestrated Tony's improbable romance with Surma by having them watch slugs go at it". Like, Donnie and Anja were always happening, but Annie may have failed to exist had Surma and Eggs made a successful go of it, maybe had Anja's relative not kicked the can at the right moment. Annie has been described as inexplicably etherically attractive (by Mort), it's probably all the quantum improbability energy she carries in her very being. Not just the not dying because of a time loop, but maybe the other stuff too. And, from the sound of the previous page, Omega didn't want anyone else to know that Annie/Kat were her prediction singularity. She probably did not want them to prevent the event of Annie not-dying. I am not sure why she wants Annie to exist. My mind draws a blank. But she must know something (ha, a lot) other people don't know. I am very curious, indeed. Can't wait to find out. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 23, 2024 17:52:16 GMT
How important is Tony to Omega's The Girl Who Lived equation?
If there existed an Antimony Eglamore, instead of Antimony Carver, history would be crazily different.
BUT she would still have Surma's abilities. (In fact, imagine an Annie with That Guy's strength as well as Surma's fire; she'd be unstoppable.)
There has to be some significance to Kat's time travel robot bird shenanigans.
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Post by drmemory on May 23, 2024 18:16:13 GMT
Upon repeated re-reading, I can see one other possible interpretation: what if Omega herself, in the future, as a brain in a 1800s-vintage computing engine or whatever, is "the girl who should not be"? I'm suggesting the possibility that Omega is willing to pay the price to become "the girl who should not be" in order to "reach the event". It's more likely that the event is caused by the girl who should not be, that girl is Kat or one of the other candidates, and Omega thinks she needs to reach the event. Just suggesting another possible interpretation. On a related note is the question about what the modern court knows. I'm thinking that all (or most) of them don't know that Omega has part of a person inside, and also that they don't know about "the event". James probably kept the secret, as Miss Omega had asked. The Inner Circle, which hasn't been mentioned but obviously must exist, may know part of that (dead girl abomination) but perhaps not all.
And of course, there is still the overarching question of why Omega is here, after the event happened. If the event is really Kat's time travel thing where she saved Annie, then showing up after the fact doesn't seem that useful. So there is more going on than meets the eye. Either the event isn't really that, or that can be reversed, or we have yet to see the event (implying it is something we don't know about yet).
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Post by silicondream on May 23, 2024 19:47:22 GMT
I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the concept of predicting you won't be able to predict the future. Offhand, I can think of three ways this might work. 1. She might predict the future as a singularity: a point where some of the parameters she uses for her prediction algorithm become infinite, or acquire values that cannot meaningfully be plugged into her algorithm. That's what it means to say that black holes and the Big Bang are singularities; it's not that there's nothing there, but there's very little that our current theories can work with. 2. She might "see" the future as black, or clouded by static, or out of focus, or something. If her predictions come with error bars, maybe they go to infinity after a certain point. 3. She might follow two different causal chains to predict the same future event and find that they lead to contradictory results. |
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Post by Hatredman on May 24, 2024 1:19:33 GMT
... to create a glorious future where 50 years from now boxbot will say "hello" and an old Grey haired and still alive Annie will say "What a nice and not at all terrible robot!" Gray haired Annie = Tea? |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on May 24, 2024 7:03:46 GMT
I'm suddenly reminded of DEVS
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Post by tibert on May 25, 2024 0:22:36 GMT
I have a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the concept of predicting you won't be able to predict the future. Offhand, I can think of three ways this might work. 1. She might predict the future as a singularity: a point where some of the parameters she uses for her prediction algorithm become infinite, or acquire values that cannot meaningfully be plugged into her algorithm. That's what it means to say that black holes and the Big Bang are singularities; it's not that there's nothing there, but there's very little that our current theories can work with. 2. She might "see" the future as black, or clouded by static, or out of focus, or something. If her predictions come with error bars, maybe they go to infinity after a certain point. 3. She might follow two different causal chains to predict the same future event and find that they lead to contradictory results. Or she saw future people discussing how her predictions have become inaccurate lately. |
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Post by blahzor on May 25, 2024 11:13:19 GMT
... to create a glorious future where 50 years from now boxbot will say "hello" and an old Grey haired and still alive Annie will say "What a nice and not at all terrible robot!" Gray haired Annie = Tea? Tea is when Kat and Annie fusion dance then are drained of their mana by Toxic Planet |
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