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Post by arf on Apr 22, 2024 7:31:07 GMT
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Post by czymsim on Apr 22, 2024 11:40:30 GMT
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 22, 2024 14:22:14 GMT
I saw a jawbone and immediately thought, "Having panic attacks is not a character flaw."
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Post by crater on Apr 22, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
Someone... has a screw loose 👓
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 23, 2024 1:35:08 GMT
Many years ago, while sitting in Calculus 3 class, I created a silly little comic called The Three Integrals. |
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Post by hp on Apr 23, 2024 3:03:42 GMT
Isn't there a chapter where Kat and someone else discuss technicalities of a hypothetical predicting machine like Omega? Anyone got an easy link? I remember something being said about aspects of deterministic predictions? Knowing what's going to happen by knowing the state of everything in the universe, but to do so the machine would need to be bigger than the universe being analysed, then you summarize predictable parts to make it easier to calculate etc.
Or maybe I read something more vague, mixed with my own musings and sci-fi readings and created a more complex memory in my head. It's been a while since my last reread. I remember comparing it to the probabilistic nature of the psychohistory science described in Foundation, which is kinda a fictional mathematical version of historical materialism
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Post by hp on Apr 23, 2024 3:10:28 GMT
Many years ago, while sitting in Calculus 3 class, I created a silly little comic called The Three Integrals. Or maybe product sketching classes in design school |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 23, 2024 8:37:10 GMT
Isn't there a chapter where Kat and someone else discuss technicalities of a hypothetical predicting machine like Omega? Anyone got an easy link? I remember something being said about aspects of deterministic predictions? Knowing what's going to happen by knowing the state of everything in the universe, but to do so the machine would need to be bigger than the universe being analysed, then you summarize predictable parts to make it easier to calculate etc.
Or maybe I read something more vague, mixed with my own musings and sci-fi readings and created a more complex memory in my head. It's been a while since my last reread. I remember comparing it to the probabilistic nature of the psychohistory science described in Foundation, which is kinda a fictional mathematical version of historical materialism
It's between Annie (paraphrasing Tony as well) and Jerrek/Loup, though. Kat is only briefly mentioned. |
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Post by hp on Apr 23, 2024 20:24:06 GMT
Isn't there a chapter where Kat and someone else discuss technicalities of a hypothetical predicting machine like Omega? Anyone got an easy link? I remember something being said about aspects of deterministic predictions? Knowing what's going to happen by knowing the state of everything in the universe, but to do so the machine would need to be bigger than the universe being analysed, then you summarize predictable parts to make it easier to calculate etc.
Or maybe I read something more vague, mixed with my own musings and sci-fi readings and created a more complex memory in my head. It's been a while since my last reread. I remember comparing it to the probabilistic nature of the psychohistory science described in Foundation, which is kinda a fictional mathematical version of historical materialism
It's between Annie (paraphrasing Tony as well) and Jerrek/Loup, though. Kat is only briefly mentioned. That was the one, thanks |
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Post by Gemminie on Apr 25, 2024 16:45:20 GMT
This mirrors the page before the chapter started and the chapter's title page. Whatever the organic-mechanical machine is that we've been seeing, it isn't in good shape, with bits and pieces falling everywhere ... unless they're falling into place, I suppose. What is this thing, and who's seeing it? On what level does it exist? Is this literally physically what Omega looks like? Or is it how Omega looks from some viewer in the Ether (and what viewer)? Or instead, is it how Omega sees the world, and perhaps itself? Maybe the broken machine is how it views the distortion that's affecting the Court area. Or maybe it's how it views any area of the world Annie is in, because her presence so badly skews its predictions. Perhaps that final page of the chapter is Omega as it sees itself, or perhaps it's how Omega sees Annie. This page appeared right after the Mystery New Person, who now claims to be Omega, said she knew where Robot was, so perhaps that page is how Omega sees Robot, or perhaps Robot within the context of the part of the distorted Court that he's in. Perhaps viewing the world as a machine is the abstraction that Omega uses. What is Omega? Tony appears to have told Annie that the Omega device is a machine. Zimmy says " the Court ain't got no device," but that's in context; she's reacting to Annie saying that Kat was going to use the Omega device to – and she was interrupted before she could finish. Zimmy's saying that the Court doesn't need to use a device to find her; Annie's already found her, and Zimmy suspects she's working for the Court. But ... if this New Person girl is Omega, well, this distortion changes things but not people. What does this mean about Omega? Well, options I can think of are ... - Omega is a computer, a thing, but got changed into a person
- Omega and the Omega device are not the same thing – perhaps Omega is a person while the device allows the Court to contact or communicate with Omega
- Omega, whatever it is, was already masquerading as a New Person before the distortion hit
- Omega actually really became a New Person before the distortion hit (Kat transferred its consciousness from its CPU into a NP body, possibly unaware that this was Omega)
- Omega somehow has the ability to change its appearance within this distortion
- This mystery New Person is lying and isn't Omega at all
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