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Post by Igniz on Mar 4, 2024 8:02:34 GMT
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Post by basser on Mar 4, 2024 8:03:42 GMT
Biblically accurate robot.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 4, 2024 8:06:02 GMT
I wonder what the big cables connect to.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Mar 4, 2024 8:08:15 GMT
Welp
That's not quite what he was hoping for
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Post by philman on Mar 4, 2024 8:13:50 GMT
Mmm, everyone's dream form, a 6-winged, tentacled, barnacle-egg thing. Barnacles and feathers covering a machine seen back a few pages ago, although the title page showed bones too which we haven't seen yet. |
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Post by taothegreat on Mar 4, 2024 8:21:20 GMT
Biblically accurate robot. I was going to say - we suspected that Robot wanted his true form to look angelic, but I didn't think he meant it THIS way. |
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Post by jasmijn on Mar 4, 2024 9:04:11 GMT
His true form!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 4, 2024 9:09:20 GMT
I wonder what the big cables connect to. Working hypothesis: Barnacles are filter-feeders and we know the Seraphs react differently to distortions than the other robots... Maybe the barnacles are some form of ether extractors based on biologic-inspired etheric tech. If that's the case then this would be something that Diego partially envisioned (that someday the Seraphs would be exposed to a strong enough distortion to morph) that's been advanced by Kat's tech to a new level. If so, then perhaps the cables are just cables since electrical power should be needed as well. If that's the case then the cables and barnacles aren't really part of the true form, just a necessary stage. |
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Post by blahzor on Mar 4, 2024 9:43:55 GMT
Robot wants them to bring him the black materia
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Post by blahzor on Mar 4, 2024 9:45:10 GMT
I wonder what the big cables connect to. I assume to the NP pods which are the "eyes" at the bottom of him |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Mar 4, 2024 10:02:21 GMT
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Post by guntherkrieg on Mar 4, 2024 10:03:04 GMT
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Post by silicondream on Mar 4, 2024 10:20:37 GMT
Same scene, minus the distortion:  Anyways, I think Robot's dreams of transition are being corrupted here by a Torn Sea flashback. (Barnacles live on whales, after all.) It's fitting that the distress he inflicted on Zimmy (and everyone else) during that chapter comes back to bite him now. The arc of Zimmyngham is long, twisty and occasionally five-dimensional, but it bends toward poetic justice. The question then would be, whose memories are supplying the flashback? It would make sense if it was Kat and/or Zimmy, since they were both in a position to see the whale-body, and were the two people most hurt by Robot's scheme. OTOH, Zimmyngham loves to prey on insecurities, and I think this may be Robot's. He betrayed not just his friends but his own ideals during "The Torn Sea:" to free his people from Court control, he stooped to the Court's methods of manipulation and instrumentalization. Beyond that, he may feel some self-loathing over his personal obsession with Kat. His comment on jealousy may have been aimed at himself more than Lana. So it would not be surprising if Robot harbors deep guilt, and believes subconsciously that he'll never be worthy of transitioning, that the Angel will eventually recognize his flaws and cast him out with the other Seraphs. He strives to become a lesser angel, but perhaps a part of him fears that he was always a spiritual monster, just like the Ship. Relatedly: While the "Devil's Due" chapter title sounds ominous and all, it's worth remembering that the original idiom is actually a positive one. Even shitty people have good qualities, and it's important to recognize them. Maybe that's what will save Robot from being overwhelmed by his past sins. ...or maybe it's just that he's the Creator's favorite 'bot yet led the other Seraphs to betray her, which would obviously make him the Devil in this mythos. But I like the happy ending better! |
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Post by Corvo on Mar 4, 2024 10:46:17 GMT
Eglamore keeps looking weirder and weirder...
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Post by louisxiv on Mar 4, 2024 10:56:55 GMT
It's Barnacle Bill the Robot!
(and Annie is a fair young maiden...)
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Post by feliszerda on Mar 4, 2024 14:22:25 GMT
Beyond that, he may feel some self-loathing over his personal obsession with Kat. His comment on jealousy may have been aimed at himself more than Lana. That's an interesting angle I hadn't considered about that bonus page, but that dark undertone hidden behind his smile would make perfect sense. It really makes me reconsider its title, "Inner Demon", especially amongst all the other talk about angels and devils. |
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Post by morrahadesigns on Mar 4, 2024 14:33:53 GMT
Well.....That's certainly ...something.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 4, 2024 14:47:40 GMT
Robot: "Please..."
Annie: "What is it, Robot?"
Robot: "I have an itch on the third left barnacle. These Seraphs are useless. I have no hands but I must scratch."
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Post by Per on Mar 4, 2024 14:59:25 GMT
Eglamore keeps looking weirder and weirder... His true form! |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 4, 2024 15:18:18 GMT
I wonder what the big cables connect to. Working hypothesis: Barnacles are filter-feeders and we know the Seraphs react differently to distortions than the other robots... Maybe the barnacles are some form of ether extractors based on biologic-inspired etheric tech. If that's the case then this would be something that Diego partially envisioned (that someday the Seraphs would be exposed to a strong enough distortion to morph) that's been advanced by Kat's tech to a new level. If so, then perhaps the cables are just cables since electrical power should be needed as well. If that's the case then the cables and barnacles aren't really part of the true form, just a necessary stage. With the barnacles possibly representing an etheric filtration mechanism of some kind, where's my two cents. Zimmy and Gamma mentioned that the ether extraction station from Spring Heeled was dismantled a while back. I wonder if the Seraph robots took or copied some of the ether extraction equipment to facilitate S13's goals of being the other figurehead of the robot religion. This is starting to get into wildspec territory, though. We don't know how much time away from Kat and Shadow S13 has spent since Loup first attacked the Court, and we don't know how much coordination S13 has done with the other Seraph robots. I'm sure we'll find out more this chapter. |
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 4, 2024 15:48:58 GMT
At the previous page's end, we were looking over Shadow's shoulder over a parapet into a courtyard below, but we couldn't really see what was going on down there other than some sort of light and possibly sound.
Well, now we see what it is. As Shadow, Annie, and the mystery New Person look on from that balcony, we see several Seraph robots, in their birdlike "etheric distortion form" from chapter 49, chanting "His true form!" We see that they are dancing around a collection of what looks like large barnacle-like creatures, angelic-appearing wings, and some sort of streamers or tentacles, some of which look chitinous, like crab legs, and some of which look technological, like segmented cables. As Annie stares, Shadow says that the strange entity is Robot. We then see the strange scene again, looking over the observers' heads at the events below.
The barnacles look a lot like the barnacles on the unknown machine that we've been seeing. But if the barnacles are part of Robot, and they're on the machine, does that mean Robot is the machine, or is he just attached to the machine? That is, is Robot's transformation just his appearance in this distortion, as the Seraph robots have an alternate form, or is it because he's been influenced by his connection to some other factor? Robot didn't take on another form in the distortion in chapter 49, but he's presumably undergone some changes since then.
Shadow and Annie are going to try to help in some way, but how, and what will Robot and the Seraphs do? Explain? Attack? Run away? Do something weird? What will the MNP do?
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Post by hp on Mar 4, 2024 15:57:08 GMT
BE NOT AFRAID.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 4, 2024 16:11:31 GMT
One look at this, and I heard One-Winged Angel playing with "S THIRTEEN!" replacing every "SEPHIROTH!". Robot didn't take on another form in the distortion in chapter 49 I thought about that too, but then realized that none of the robots which had entered the existing distortion from outside had changed, while all robots who had been inside the affected area when the distortion was created were changed (the Seraphs, the ship, and the sailor-bots, if you count them separately). |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 4, 2024 16:11:53 GMT
Are you ready, kids?
Who sprouts from a barnacle in the city/
(Seraph Advance!)
Metallic and feathered and pious is he!
(Seraph Advance!)
If etheric nonsense is something you want/
(Seraph Advance!)
He's a metaphoric and literal font!
(Seraph Advance!) x2
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Post by Gemini Jim on Mar 4, 2024 19:35:01 GMT
OK, so this is definitely Distortion-related, right? Robot's (This Isn't Even My) Final Form is just some sort of etheric madness brought to life, like MechaKat.
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Post by drmemory on Mar 4, 2024 22:27:09 GMT
Well now we know why Robot didn't want a new body from Kat.
Note that he does indeed have some avian qualities. I wonder if the previous page was an egg? Are the other Seraphs his children/offspring/chicks?
Also, for once I don't think he's Coyote, but I'm wondering if he might not be Omega.
It almost makes sense for Omega to be the one to enter a time loop, rather than a generic Seraph robot...
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Post by exquisitecorpus on Mar 5, 2024 2:33:30 GMT
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Post by basser on Mar 5, 2024 9:24:01 GMT
Well now we know why Robot didn't want a new body from Kat. Note that he does indeed have some avian qualities. I wonder if the previous page was an egg? Are the other Seraphs his children/offspring/chicks? Also, for once I don't think he's Coyote, but I'm wondering if he might not be Omega. It almost makes sense for Omega to be the one to enter a time loop, rather than a generic Seraph robot... Oh man what if he's Jones tho. Her and Eglamore becomes so much more awkward. |
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Post by silicondream on Mar 5, 2024 11:44:03 GMT
OK, so this is definitely Distortion-related, right? Robot's (This Isn't Even My) Final Form is just some sort of etheric madness brought to life, like MechaKat. I think so, yeah. Everyone's at their worst in Zimmyngham; it's house rules. This isn't Robot's true form, it's a nightmare about Robot's true form based on somebody's worst fears--possibly, his own. |
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Post by storyteller on Mar 5, 2024 14:58:34 GMT
I can see Robot being forgiven/back to being a good guy after at least a chapter of being in disgrace.
But the fact he is trouble, that has been building up since before Torn Sea though that was when it was blasted loudly for the audience.
But we haven't had that moment of revelation for the cast - this is a bad sign to the audience because we have Robot as preacher of Angel Kat and Zimmy's Angel Kat visions to out Zimmy's warnings into context.
This would come across as distressing for Robot not because of Robot to Annie right now.
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