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Post by drmemory on Nov 8, 2023 6:17:35 GMT
Just another robot thread...
I'm reading through the comic from the start again and a couple of things about Robot jumped out at me.
When his chip was temporarily in the prototype of his model, and he participated in the puppet show, he learned how to fight with a sword. He retained that skill afterwords. If he were going to be infected with some part of Diego or special Diego programming, that seems like the time for it to happen! To add to the fun, his chip did nothing when placed in a different golem model. Trap?
When he was acting as an angelic-looking guide in the "She Gave Us an Ocean" chapter, he described what the pipe inspection robot was going to experience. As if he had been through it before. Clearly, S-13 isn't one of the low-capability models, with a limited mind in a small bucket. He has emotions and thinks abstractly (and creatively) and schemes. Yet, we know he hasn't yet picked a NP body. Kat even said explicitly that his original chip is still in his more recent bodies. How does he have an expanded, much more human-like mind if he didn't go through the consciousness transfer process? Which, BTW, can only be done once. As a side note, I assume that means it's one-way, not that you only get one new body ever - if your NP brain isn't destroyed you can still trade up.
Robot clearly already has an upgraded mind even though he hasn't gone through the process. Not only that, but when Annie first found him in a box in pieces, he had been put there by the other Seraphs because he was being a prophet and/or a rabblerouser. When they later arrested him and took him into custody they specifically said he was up to his old tricks. This makes me think he had that expanded mind from the first time we saw him. Though... he did act a bit more child-like at first. Calling Annie "Mummy" and such.
We really never saw anything about Diego planning to live on after the death of his body. That doesn't entirely rule it out, but I feel it more likely that he planted some code in the golem Seraph. Clearly, something happened when Robot's chip was put in that body, and it had lasting effects. But it isn't what expanded his mind, because that happened earlier, before we even met him. I hate to bring time travel into this, but what if the golem was actually a trap set by Robot in the past? So that instead of infecting him with something from Diego, it instead infected him with his own future knowledge?
Another observation about that proto-Seraph golem: I think that's the only golem model that we've seen that has an obvious follow-on model. None of the rest of the robots look much like the golem robots. With the possible exception of the horses, but those are wierd anyway (they ramble on about philosophy and old war stories).
If the current Robot S-13 does indeed have knowledge of a couple of iterations of himself, that still doesn't explain how it happened or who did it. Possible candidates include Kat, Coyote, Diego, Omega, and Robot himself. Maybe we'll learn more in the Zimmy Borble, especially if the suspect girl NP is Robot as I suspect.  |
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Post by blahzor on Nov 8, 2023 11:52:03 GMT
Another oddity they almost never say "autobots. Roll out"
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 8, 2023 20:22:16 GMT
When his chip was temporarily in the prototype of his model, and he participated in the puppet show, he learned how to fight with a sword. He retained that skill afterwords. If he were going to be infected with some part of Diego or special Diego programming, that seems like the time for it to happen! To add to the fun, his chip did nothing when placed in a different golem model. Trap? Indeed, and not only that, this chapter is also the last time he is seen with his insecure and kind of child-like behavior (at this point it should be mentioned, though, that most - not all - other robots also don't seem to act particularly mature). The next time we see him, he already seems to think of him as something special, wearing clothes and acting as a religious leader. I, too, think, that this episode was when S13 was either infected/reprogrammed/upgraded, or that the experience somehow strongly reinforced that he was the prophet doing important work. I thought it was an upgrade prepared by Diego (who, as I recall, created S1 as a stand-in for himself and Bullbot as a stand-in for Sir Young), but your idea that it was put there by S13 from the future is also interesting. I'm not sure about this, though. On the respective page, Kat says that some of the golems look like early models of models they know, pointing out the H-model as an example and they also find a Boxbot version. I think if Tom had wanted to make it stand out that there was only an original Seraph model back then, he'd have made it more obvious. |
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Post by drmemory on Nov 9, 2023 2:48:40 GMT
When his chip was temporarily in the prototype of his model, and he participated in the puppet show, he learned how to fight with a sword. He retained that skill afterwords. If he were going to be infected with some part of Diego or special Diego programming, that seems like the time for it to happen! To add to the fun, his chip did nothing when placed in a different golem model. Trap? Indeed, and not only that, this chapter is also the last time he is seen with his insecure and kind of child-like behavior (at this point it should be mentioned, though, that most - not all - other robots also don't seem to act particularly mature). The next time we see him, he already seems to think of him as something special, wearing clothes and acting as a religious leader. I, too, think, that this episode was when S13 was either infected/reprogrammed/upgraded, or that the experience somehow strongly reinforced that he was the prophet doing important work. I thought it was an upgrade prepared by Diego (who, as I recall, created S1 as a stand-in for himself and Bullbot as a stand-in for Sir Young), but your idea that it was put there by S13 from the future is also interesting. I'm not sure about this, though. On the respective page, Kat says that some of the golems look like early models of models they know, pointing out the H-model as an example and they also find a Boxbot version. I think if Tom had wanted to make it stand out that there was only an original Seraph model back then, he'd have made it more obvious. Oh God, you're right! I totally forgot about the earlier Boxbot version. I was more thinking about the more distinctive looking golem robots, but now that you mention Boxbot, the one that Annie raised from the dead also had a descendant. The "creepy looking robot" thing...
That doesn't rule out my "trap" theory but it does make it much less likely that the Seraph line was created specifically to arm the trap.
I still think there is something weird about the Seraphs though. Even other robots and court shadow men agree on this. Maybe the original was their spymaster or something?
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 9, 2023 11:10:37 GMT
I still think there is something weird about the Seraphs though. Even other robots and court shadow men agree on this. Maybe the original was their spymaster or something? Definitely, the reason why they were created in the first place is still one of the comic's open mysteries. And old man Diego himself certainly wasn't above spying on others. |
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