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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 4, 2023 7:07:04 GMT
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Ysengrin, is that you? Oh hey, the Noobmenz came too. That'll save her the trouble of looking for them. It'll save the wolf the trouble of looking for them too.
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Post by arf on Oct 4, 2023 7:14:27 GMT
"What's the time, Mister Wolf?"
"Ah! But what *is* time, children? What is time?"
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Post by jda on Oct 4, 2023 7:16:59 GMT
Seems to me even the trees are Rune-like here, in the land of symbolisms.
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 4, 2023 7:17:50 GMT
COME ON, BIG FELLA
We've seen fragments and versions (Bill Willingham's "Fables" and Dimension 20's "Neverafter" come to mind re: that concept) – but this is probably our clearest look at the Ysengrin of capital-l Legends.
I hope this is an Ysengrin who remembers and loves Annie. He looks dieseled enough to help her and maybe even avenge himself in the process.
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Post by madjack on Oct 4, 2023 7:19:12 GMT
Stand your ground.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 4, 2023 7:22:24 GMT
By the way: The trees here remind me a bit of that mind cage thinger which I guess is appropriate for how "Loup" thinks of Ysengrin. |
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Post by stclair on Oct 4, 2023 7:44:34 GMT
OH HI
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Post by rafk on Oct 4, 2023 8:39:11 GMT
Scene: a giant wolf with glowing green eyes stalks a young woman from behind the trees of a forest in the midst of a nightmarish distortion of reality.
Entirely justified audience reaction: yay!
Truly this is an odd duck of a story.
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 4, 2023 11:03:58 GMT
Eglamore, my man!
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Post by laaaa on Oct 4, 2023 11:20:07 GMT
IT'S OKAY, EVERYONE! The wolf is too large to move between the trees. It's stuck there!
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Post by ezpak on Oct 4, 2023 11:35:45 GMT
People don’t even say bless you anymore, they just look at you like this.
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Post by torrent on Oct 4, 2023 13:18:11 GMT
Hello Ysengrin.
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Post by rabbit on Oct 4, 2023 13:47:52 GMT
By the way: The trees here remind me a bit of that mind cage thinger which I guess is appropriate for how "Loup" thinks of Ysengrin. Despite Tom's "Stalk" comment, the trees here are quite symmetrical and are (mostly) evenly spaced across the panel, making them look like the bars of a cage rather than an actual forest.
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Post by blahzor on Oct 4, 2023 14:18:38 GMT
Smol Y's
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Post by netherdan on Oct 4, 2023 15:53:03 GMT
WHO'S A GOOD BOY!?
Ahem, um, hello Ysengrin!
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 4, 2023 15:54:25 GMT
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Post by saardvark on Oct 4, 2023 19:01:52 GMT
If thinking of sunlight through leaves (and maybe fond memories of the forest with Ys) can cause this scene to spring up, everyone better be careful of their idle daydreams...!
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Post by Isildur on Oct 4, 2023 20:10:02 GMT
Some other anime I was reminded of: Princess Mononoke:  Spice and Wolf:  Attachments:
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Post by Gemminie on Oct 4, 2023 20:34:24 GMT
After Annie focuses on the familiar sight of sunlight through the trees, she, Renard, and the NP all find themselves in a strange forest – one with almost no undergrowth, just tall trees. And indeed there is sunlight coming through the leaves far above. But does this look familiar to anyone? Then one of the NP (the one with the long black hair again) spots something that isn't a tree.
What they (and everyone, now) are seeing is a giant gray-brown wolf, easily 20 or more feet at the shoulder, with glowing green eyes. It seems to have noticed them. Everyone other than the wolf is facing away from us, so we can't see their faces, but Annie's posture looks surprised. Renard and all the NP seem relaxed, though. Perhaps this is because the trees are so close together that there's no way for it to attack them.
Of course, that's how it appears; that may not be how it is. Then again, the giant wolf may not be how things really are either. I really don't understand what's going on, as I don't see how this follows from anything that's gone before. Renard (the familiar) suggested looking for the familiar, but who's finding this familiar? Actually, what if it's Renard? Maybe this is a memory from when he was very small, so everything else looks large? What if this is Renard's memory of Ysengrin from before he or Renard met Coyote? Renard was a fox, quite a bit smaller than a wolf, but is that wolf proportionally sized given Renard's current size? I don't think so.
Will the giant wolf attack them? Speak to them? Vanish mysteriously? Will Annie go up and attempt to kick it? Will they try looking for the familiar again?
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Post by saardvark on Oct 4, 2023 21:06:40 GMT
if you think it, he will come....
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Post by hp on Oct 5, 2023 2:01:39 GMT
By the way: The trees here remind me a bit of that mind cage thinger which I guess is appropriate for how "Loup" thinks of Ysengrin. I think it's supposed to be clearly a cage, not an allusion. I understood it as the "true" Ysengrim being held by the "gift" of power over trees Coyote gave him. It has been shown to be detrimental to him (someone in the comic once said Coyote's gifts always have a catch) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 5, 2023 5:24:18 GMT
By the way: The trees here remind me a bit of that mind cage thinger which I guess is appropriate for how "Loup" thinks of Ysengrin. I think it's supposed to be clearly a cage, not an allusion. I understood it as the "true" Ysengrim being held by the "gift" of power over trees Coyote gave him. It has been shown to be detrimental to him (someone in the comic once said Coyote's gifts always have a catch) It looks to me like this Ysengrin could potentially slip between the central trees in the foreground and reach the FL et al, or alternatively move forwards or backwards... and that's assuming he can't snap those trees like twigs or just bend them aside... but if it is a literal* cage and it's not self/Loup inflicted it may be how Kat's restraint tech is manifesting itself. We should find out in a page or so. *Literal here meaning actually restraining him even though it's still semi-metaphorical. |
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Post by hp on Oct 5, 2023 6:35:59 GMT
It seems like Ysengrim and his situation with Coyote (bound/undermined by his "gift") manifested under the terms of this new situation.
I mean, they are inside some kind of unholy mix between the divinity of the woods and Zimmingham, all applied above the previous Woods-Court mix created by Loup. We've already seem it affecting regular objects such as robots showing like plants, buildings merged with trees, etc. Seeing Coyote's hold over Ysengrim represented like that would be similar to how Zimmy saw Tony's "bones" pinning Annie to her bed through her heart, or Kat's thoughts as a talking pigeon
At least if that is actually Ysengrim. In zimmingham we've already seen people who were actually someone else (such as the Zimmy/ Annie switcheroo that time) and people who were just figments of Zimmy's imagination. We also can't discount the wisps hehehe
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Post by laaaa on Oct 5, 2023 18:54:09 GMT
While Annie's and Y's interaction remains to be seen, I REALLY LIKE that Coyote was punted like a ball, while Ysegrine is huge and majestic.
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Post by Isildur on Oct 5, 2023 22:27:13 GMT
While Annie's and Y's interaction remains to be seen, I REALLY LIKE that Coyote was punted like a ball, while Ysegrine is huge and majestic. Well, some aspect or representation of Coyote. I don't think that was a fully conscious manifestation of him, though. At least, Annie seemed to think not, as I'm operating on the assumption that she saw the Coyote color stripes as we did, when she booted the groundhog like some vengeance demon smiting Lucy van Pelt with the force of every football kick Charlie Brown was ever denied. (if Annie didn't perceive the stripes, that wasn't adequately indicated to the viewers.) Of course, she'd have plenty of reason for fury at Coyote, and yet more justification for punishing him than ever before, but I doubt even she would would have been so rash as to attack Coyote himself like that, particularly just after he seemingly demonstrated how few compunctions he has about taking the lives of New People. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Oct 6, 2023 20:18:36 GMT
While Annie's and Y's interaction remains to be seen, I REALLY LIKE that Coyote was punted like a ball, while Ysegrine is huge and majestic. It fits how they see themselves, I think, if not each other. |
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