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Post by Timberwere on Aug 7, 2023 7:02:37 GMT
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Post by bicarbonat on Aug 7, 2023 7:11:20 GMT
I *don't* think this is going to happen, but the fact that 2820 gave me a shivery memory of Nina Tucker is pretty indicative of my declining optimism re: this whole situation.
I hope that old fool doesn't die.
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Post by mzpx on Aug 7, 2023 7:15:51 GMT
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but are we closer to the end than we think? Entirely possible that the only way to get out of this distortion world is to kill the joint Zimmy+Loup/Jerrek+Coyote being, which may end up being done by Kat and Annie together. But then there's not that much more left of the story for afterwards.
Obviously, we've had cases before when getting out of a Zimmy-world took more than one chapter, so this would likely take several chapters. But Volume 10 may very well be the last one.
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Post by madjack on Aug 7, 2023 7:25:43 GMT
Panel 4 is extremely well drawn.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 7, 2023 7:34:30 GMT
The transition in panels 4-8 (4-9?) is interesting. Looks like the light source is being dappled out in #4 before the effect gets there and shades out everything. I'd say I was ninja'd on that point but was still writing so saw it before posting. Didn't change anything, though. Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but are we closer to the end than we think? Entirely possible that the only way to get out of this distortion world is to kill the joint Zimmy+Loup/Jerrek+Coyote being, which may end up being done by Kat and Annie together. But then there's not that much more left of the story for afterwards. Obviously, we've had cases before when getting out of a Zimmy-world took more than one chapter, so this would likey take several chapters. But Volume 10 may very well be the last one. Not impossible. I was thinking that now that Coyote's power is making itself obvious that it was time for Jenny to make a reappearance, possibly with Aata, but it may be the case that this is the cauldron into which all the refined materia and catalyst are going into for the final result and that last twist will be included inside somehow. I agree that if that's the case it should still take at minimum a few chapters to wrap up. It does seem like some opportunities to branch into potentially-interesting sidepaths have been foregone in the chapters of recent past and there's been more use of implied-backgrounds instead of detailed ones* than before. Well, Mr. Siddell has been doing this webcomic for a very long time and may be ready to bring things to a close. *Not a criticism. One of my favorite things in the world is saving time and energy by making it look like I drew something when I didn't. It's also my go-to solution when I can't figure out how to draw something properly; I just make it look like I drew it instead. |
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Post by justhalf on Aug 7, 2023 7:51:05 GMT
Panel 4 is extremely well drawn. Indeed, my most favorite panel of all time for Gunnerkrigg, I would say. Can feel Annie's emotion so clearly |
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Post by arf on Aug 7, 2023 7:52:43 GMT
Tom confirmed that we are coming toward the end at the completion of Volume 9 in October last year. He also said there was still a lot to cover. My guess is that Volume 10 will be the last. That suggests there's another 5 chapters or so after this one; which has an estimated 10 pages to go.* That's enough to establish what has just happened, while leaving us asking what has just happened?! * [update]: actually a bit shorter: missed the end chapter symbol! (Erm, is it me or was it Hiroshima Day last Saturday?) |
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Post by csj on Aug 7, 2023 8:30:47 GMT
missed opportunity for a 'thanks for reading'
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Post by blahzor on Aug 7, 2023 8:59:11 GMT
Everybody merge
Everybody wang chung tonight
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Post by Corvo on Aug 7, 2023 9:00:35 GMT
Oh by gosh, I love those two! Such a cute couple they make, Zims and Coyote!
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Post by arf on Aug 7, 2023 9:03:47 GMT
missed opportunity for a 'thanks for reading' Also missed opportunity for 'Into the distortion-verse' |
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Post by gpvos on Aug 7, 2023 9:23:33 GMT
I'm sure Coyote knew this would happen to Annie.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 7, 2023 9:25:46 GMT
Oh by gosh, I love those two! Such a cute couple they make, Zims and Coyote! I can't decide if they deserve each other or not. |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Aug 7, 2023 9:38:38 GMT
I *don't* think this is going to happen, but the fact that 2820 gave me a shivery memory of Nina Tucker is pretty indicative of my declining optimism re: this whole situation. I hope that old fool doesn't die. First thing that came to my mind as well. |
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Post by Per on Aug 7, 2023 10:20:27 GMT
"Stay close! If they merged, we gotta merge too!"
Next there's a free-for-all kaiju showdown between random abominable fusions of cast members.
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Post by torrent on Aug 7, 2023 11:02:26 GMT
Very reminiscent of the the panels in Watchmen when Ozymandias completes his attack on NYC and the older Bernard rushes to protect the younger one.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 7, 2023 11:19:04 GMT
Silly Annie if Kat was there she would have told you, you got to do a certain dance to fusion or you come out all wrong
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Post by todd on Aug 7, 2023 12:42:38 GMT
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but are we closer to the end than we think? Entirely possible that the only way to get out of this distortion world is to kill the joint Zimmy+Loup/Jerrek+Coyote being, which may end up being done by Kat and Annie together. But then there's not that much more left of the story for afterwards. Well, there's also the Court's goals - although it's possible that the Court (or, to be precise, the more corrupt members who were behind its darker acts) just goes away across the Star Ocean and are out of the story, meaning that Annie and Kat can offer a better direction for the ones who stayed behind, something that could be handled in a few pages. |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 7, 2023 13:52:22 GMT
I *don't* think this is going to happen, but the fact that 2820 gave me a shivery memory of Nina Tucker is pretty indicative of my declining optimism re: this whole situation. I hope that old fool doesn't die. I was thinking of them merging in some interesting way. More in a meta-identity way. I was not thinking of Nina Tucker, though... I'm sorry. I have some dust in my eye. |
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Post by storyteller on Aug 7, 2023 15:58:37 GMT
Something that stands out to me is just how much and how long things have been building up to this.
One Coyote not being actually nice or good. Things didn't go to plan and he's lashing out because of that.
Two- Zimmy. And there's a lot. Comparisons to Coyote as to her Ether powers. The fact that she's not actively malicious but if you unsettle her enough she will lose control (Power Plant and the Cruise Ship) and once it happens things go out the window.
Something Tom has kept going whenever Zimmyham happens is that things could go utterly bad. Things never quite did but all of the years of prep time means that there's no need for for explanations if why things went bad or why things will be strange when Zimmy meets Coyote at long last.
This also means that Kat probably is going to be able to pull some stuff because Cruise Ship arc. Because the Etheric Generator just got kicked on, and if we're really really lucky we don't have an almagation going on.
I don't think we're that lucky because I don't think Zimmy is that lucky.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 7, 2023 19:56:38 GMT
After seeing them from behind on the previous page, this time the camera turns to show us Annie and Renard's faces. Renard doesn't know what it is, but Annie knows it's Zimmy and says so. The dome engulfs a nearby ruined building, showing us that there hasn't been time to do more than say a few words before it's upon them. Annie quickly jumps toward Renard to grab him, and at first it looks as if he's reacting by backing away, but she puts her arms around him, shouts to stay close, and ... the wave of whatever-it-is washes over them. Things go dark. And ... end of chapter. So ... did Coyote know this would happen? And, er, what happened exactly? We'll have to see. This is clearly setting things up for the next chapter being about ... whatever's going to happen within the weird darksplosion. Could this be, perhaps, the thing that Zimmy said she'd do that the Court wouldn't like – in other words, was that more of a prophecy than a promise of revenge? The glimpses we've seen about what happens as the dome overtakes buildings have shown us that it changes buildings into trees, but trees without any leaves that we could see. Are we going to be inside a dark forest rather than a dark cityscape? |
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Post by storyteller on Aug 8, 2023 0:03:45 GMT
So ... did Coyote know this would happen? And, er, what happened exactly? We'll have to see. This is clearly setting things up for the next chapter being about ... whatever's going to happen within the weird darksplosion. Could this be, perhaps, the thing that Zimmy said she'd do that the Court wouldn't like – in other words, was that more of a prophecy than a promise of revenge? Looking at that page - yeah. It does look like a prophecy especially given Zimmy's grasp on time. It was coming, Zimmy and Gamma knew it was and it's timing is poor at least for them or just knowledge of it being bad for everyone. And it'd fit them not worrying About the Court if they saw a super powered Zimmyham episode coming on with no apparent Court interference |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 8, 2023 0:04:26 GMT
Arr! Brace fer impact! "Stay close! If they merged, we gotta merge too!" Hmm… 3 (visible) girls, 3 canines Of course, there’s another option. Oh by gosh, I love those two! Such a cute couple they make, Zims and Coyote! Joke aside, it’s not unprecedented. So maybe it will turn into a high-speed double shell game? For maximum madness. |
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Post by arf on Aug 8, 2023 1:04:01 GMT
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Post by storyteller on Aug 8, 2023 12:54:47 GMT
I mean... Zimmy isn't typically actively malicious. She doesn't mind scaring people but that's as far as she goes normally. This isn't normally because all appearances of Zimmy losing herself essentially include her checking out until she finds herself again. Meanwhile Of Zimmyham just hit it's "oh so that's what was being built up for the entire story" moment which leads to Mecha Kat who Coyote was looking for and Zimmy knows. Throw in Robot and the robots Angel.... It's a Forest God (Loup/Coyote) versus Court God (Angel/Mecha Kat) fight with Zimmy (power of without control) facilitating. |
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Post by pylgrimm on Aug 8, 2023 14:04:53 GMT
The silver lining of whatever horrible nightmare this is likely going to be is that inside the Zimmyverse things can get messed up enough to extricate Lana from Coyote.
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Post by drmemory on Aug 8, 2023 15:59:40 GMT
I still believe Coyote is on plan. He isn't really mad about things going off-plan - either he anticipated the way they actually went, possibly through timey-wimey shenanigans, or they really are off of his nominal path and he's adjusting to keep the key parts going.
More importantly, we're seeing some really cool stuff about Zimmy we've never seen before. In the past, entering Zimmyland has always been instantaneous - you're not in Zimmyland, then you're suddenly in. This time, we saw it from outside, got to see it's either a dome or a sphere or something along those lines, and we're getting to see it grow. NOT instantaneously - it's growing! I'd guess it's going to cover the whole court or at least a huge part of it. But why? Could it be something to do with all the extra power inside? Some sort of interaction between Coyote's power and Zimmy's? Don't know but can't wait to see more!
Another thought about the growth of Zimmyland - could it be that she kept it growing until she got Annie, the closest thing she has to a friend?
Yet another thought - given how large it is this time, who else might we see inside? Time for an encore with Jack? Maybe with extra Jenny on the side? Think of all the possible candidates for people and other entities that might get sucked inside this time!
I think with all the extra power from Coyote and Loup in there, and Zimmy totally freaked out, we may see something quite different this time.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 10, 2023 16:40:04 GMT
More importantly, we're seeing some really cool stuff about Zimmy we've never seen before. In the past, entering Zimmyland has always been instantaneous - you're not in Zimmyland, then you're suddenly in. This time, we saw it from outside, got to see it's either a dome or a sphere or something along those lines, and we're getting to see it grow. NOT instantaneously - it's growing! I'd guess it's going to cover the whole court or at least a huge part of it. But why? Could it be something to do with all the extra power inside? Some sort of interaction between Coyote's power and Zimmy's? Don't know but can't wait to see more! Given that it's pretty clear Coyote deliberately steered the action so Loup slammed him into Zimmy, I'm pretty sure that the fact that it's different this time is due to Coyote and Loup – either extra power or just different power. Gamma is right there. She's the only thing Zimmy cares about in the world. Last time we saw Zimmy and Annie, Zimmy was pretty quick to accuse Annie of working for the Court and trying to screw her over. They didn't part on good terms. So I think not – I think the dome is still growing past Annie. Probably just about everybody. I think the star ocean might stop it. Maybe. I think you're right! Things are about to get crazy, possibly crazier than we've ever seen before. All those characters who've said, "Oh, remember all the shenanigans we got up to when we were kids in the Court?" are about to think that they maybe should've paid a bit more attention to what this generation was doing. |
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Post by todd on Aug 11, 2023 0:35:35 GMT
All those characters who've said, "Oh, remember all the shenanigans we got up to when we were kids in the Court?" are about to think that they maybe should've paid a bit more attention to what this generation was doing. Yes, I've thought myself that the Court seemed to be overlooking the actions of Annie, Kat, and the rest at an astonishing level. Of course, it was necessary from the story's point of view; if they'd clamped down on their actions, it'd be a lot harder to get any stories. (Though I still wonder whether the Court feared that, if they tried seriously restraining the students - the next generation of people working on the Court's projects - they might wind up teaching them to be so cautious that they'd decide that projects like Omega and the Star Ocean seemed far too reckless and dangerous, and refuse to work on them.) |
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