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Post by bedinsis on Jul 17, 2023 7:02:15 GMT
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Post by novia on Jul 17, 2023 7:04:11 GMT
when coyote meets zimmy
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Post by madjack on Jul 17, 2023 7:04:37 GMT
What could possibly go wrong? He's definitely smart enough to recognise that doesn't quite fit with what he's after though, so perhaps that meeting will have to wait. He's also going to react extremely strongly if/when he meets Kat and finds out she's just... Ordinary. Whether he finds it angering or hilarious is a coin flip. |
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Post by arf on Jul 17, 2023 7:08:35 GMT
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Post by madjack on Jul 17, 2023 7:09:12 GMT
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Post by arf on Jul 17, 2023 7:09:14 GMT
Meanwhile, what are Annie and Rey doing?
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 17, 2023 7:20:34 GMT
Oh right! I didn't get that, but yeah, the Darkness is probably Zimmy as seen through Coyote's ethervision. Meanwhile, what are Annie and Rey doing? I was more curious about how Loup would process seeing his beloved Lana perish. Sidenote: can we all agree that the Coyote on this page really is, for all intents and purposes, Coyote? There was some talk about this actually being a recording with limited interaction, but if he takes the initiative and is able to see these forces in this way then it makes more sense to see him as Coyote. |
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Post by justcurious on Jul 17, 2023 8:29:09 GMT
I think the Coyote fragment that we are dealing with might be about to try to bite off too much. Zimmy might be able to thump him like the Bunyip did.
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Post by blahzor on Jul 17, 2023 8:56:12 GMT
Ocean to the right. Zimmy to the left and Coyote still blind to Kat's power because he can't think of what her power is
You are thinking of old ways of power Coyote. Check urban dictionary
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Post by blahzor on Jul 17, 2023 9:16:04 GMT
When he sees Zimmy as Kat because she is nega-Kat from the 5th dimension |
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Post by blahzor on Jul 17, 2023 9:19:01 GMT
To further my idea that Coyote's view of power is flawed. He saw Zimmy a huge flawed power, the ocean flawed but by design to wipe memories. His own flawed because every time he gives someone his stolen/copy powers it has side effects. So far once Kat has iterated her stuff her powers don't have actual flaws by time she gets it to 1.0
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Post by blahzor on Jul 17, 2023 9:23:41 GMT
Oh right! I didn't get that, but yeah, the Darkness is probably Zimmy as seen through Coyote's ethervision. Meanwhile, what are Annie and Rey doing? I was more curious about how Loup would process seeing his beloved Lana perish. Sidenote: can we all agree that the Coyote on this page really is, for all intents and purposes, Coyote? There was some talk about this actually being a recording with limited interaction, but if he takes the initiative and is able to see these forces in this way then it makes more sense to see him as Coyote. Considering the other page he's telling Loup to use the power to see. So sounds like he's borrowing Loups power for this pages sight. If Loup chooses to close him off on it, it would put him to a stop? But since Loup is not actively preventing him he can do whatever. I still think Coyote is alive fully due to the tooth existing |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Jul 17, 2023 10:33:47 GMT
We're just skipping the emotional scenes and character impact for now? Interesting narrative choice, Siddell.
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Post by Per on Jul 17, 2023 10:57:36 GMT
GM: Look, I'm just going to cut away to what Coyote is doing, you'll see what I'm planning, OK?
Players: But Lana's DEAD, asshole!
Lana's player: (from outside by the car wreck) I'm dead and you did nothing!
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Post by Igniz on Jul 17, 2023 12:33:20 GMT
Or Kat.  |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 17, 2023 13:07:22 GMT
Coyote still looking very angry with no other characters around to see him is slowly convincing me that he is indeed agry.
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Post by netherdan on Jul 17, 2023 13:16:11 GMT
To further my idea that Coyote's view of power is flawed. He saw Zimmy a huge flawed power, the ocean flawed but by design to wipe memories. His own flawed because every time he gives someone his stolen/copy powers it has side effects. So far once Kat has iterated her stuff her powers don't have actual flaws by time she gets it to 1.0 Oh, but Kat powers got flaws, indeed. She's just too good at debugging and fixing them. |
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Post by blahzor on Jul 17, 2023 14:02:02 GMT
To further my idea that Coyote's view of power is flawed. He saw Zimmy a huge flawed power, the ocean flawed but by design to wipe memories. His own flawed because every time he gives someone his stolen/copy powers it has side effects. So far once Kat has iterated her stuff her powers don't have actual flaws by time she gets it to 1.0 Oh, but Kat powers got flaws, indeed. She's just too good at debugging and fixing them. i don't think they are flaws yet, her powers only come from after she's finished problem solving then retroactively given to her in pieces. Staring with naturally good with mechanics then advance inspiration then sight, then full blown creation then unrestricted teleportation. You can almost put it to how Coyote slowly gained his amase of powers |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 17, 2023 14:43:12 GMT
Coyote still looking very angry with no other characters around to see him is slowly convincing me that he is indeed agry. Still hard to say. It could just be gas. He did just eat a sizable meal. |
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Post by csj on Jul 17, 2023 15:41:38 GMT
I think the Coyote fragment that we are dealing with might be about to try to bite off too much. Zimmy might be able to thump him like the Bunyip did. 'You might be strong,' the bunyip said, 'but the demon in the Court has twice as much self-loathing and existential dread' |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 17, 2023 15:58:26 GMT
Somebody earlier suggested that Kat was destroying Zimmyham with her experiments and such.
So it would be interesting if Coyote mixes up the two, or if Kat's interference with Zimmy interferes with Coyote finding Kat.
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 17, 2023 16:03:10 GMT
We see Coyote's echo flying into the air above the ruins, and we see no one on the ground (at least, not from this angle). He's looking for the new god who dares interfere with his plan, so rather than ask anybody about this being, he starts searching, surmising that this should be a powerful being and therefore easy to find with Coyote's senses.
On one horizon he sees a bright light but dismisses it, as he knows it's the star ocean, calling the Court's plan to leave cowardly. On the horizon in another direction he sees an anti-brilliant anti-light, considering whether that may be what he's looking for.
Now, it's hard for me to say right now, but a big glowing (unglowing) patch of darkness suggests it's probably Zimmy.
We don't know what Jerrek/Loup, Annie, and Renard are doing right now; we're carefully following Coyote-echo here without even a glimpse of what they might be doing. Most notably, we haven't seen Loup's reaction to Coyote's apparent devouring of Lana (though I still think he's holding her in his mouth). Loup hasn't lashed out at Coyote, at least not yet, but he might still do that. Or Coyote might go to his destination before Loup can do anything. I still think this is echo-Coyote as opposed to real Coyote, so going up against actual Zimmy would probably give Zimmy a good chance against him.
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Post by drmemory on Jul 17, 2023 16:07:22 GMT
It feels like we're heading towards a huge confrontation, involving Coyote, Loup, Zimmy, and Kat. Possibly also Robot S13, and the Court - let's not forget they still want to suck Coyote's energy! I would think Robot would be largely on Kat's side, whatever that turns out to be, but maybe not. As for the Court - that could mean Aata, Shadow Men, Omega, or even the never-seen steering committee! My prediction is that we're going to end up with Annie having to kill Coyote with his own tooth, but Tom is tricky and I'm not sure I want to put all my cookies in one basket.  Anyway, that would look something like "Coyote goes insane and starts trying to hurt more people that Annie loves and must be stopped". Can't wait to see what happens next! |
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Post by drmemory on Jul 17, 2023 16:29:52 GMT
BTW, we're seeing a lot of firsts here: Loup and Coyote are present at the same time and interacting with each other publicly. No whispering of secrets! Coyote is present inside the court. Running amok as well. Coyote has committed violence on a NP, or at least made it look like he has. I think he's trying to get Annie to kill him/them, but we'll see. In any case, he's usually been more the voice of reason, whereas Ysengrin has been the violent one with no impulse control. If Coyote is out of the Loup collective, does that mean Loup is mostly Ysengrin now? I look forward to seeing Ysengrin again! There are really like four in there - Coyote, Ysengrin, Loup (new personality created by Ysengrin devouring Coyote), and Jerrek (new personality created by Loup). But it feels like what should still be inside Jerrek would be mostly Ysengrin, mellowed by Annie and Lana.
Coyote made a comment to Loup about "using the powers he gave him". Well that's not too subtle - we all figured that Coyote had set all of this up but I'm not sure everyone in the GK world knew that. The power thing might be important - does this mean that both Coyote and Jerrek have Coyote's powers now? If so, I am looking forward to the anime-style battle!
This is the first time most of those present are seeing Coyote in action. Only Annie really knows what he was like before, and really she only knows what he was like WITH HER - a tiny window into the personality of an immortal being. I'm sure she's told Kat a lot about him, but that's not the same as seeing him in action. I have to assume that Kat and/or Robot are watching the events and will be joining the fun soon.
More firsts coming soon! Combat form of Kat, for example! I will refrain from adding to the list for how as there are SO many possibilities. |
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Post by rafk on Jul 17, 2023 16:58:17 GMT
Are we absolutely sure the darkness is Zimmy?
I could see Kat and her works appearing as an absolute etheric void to Coyote
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Post by sosleepy on Jul 17, 2023 17:27:51 GMT
Coyote flew so high up to see the whole game map and check on unexplored points of interest!
I wonder why they're depicted as light and darkness. I doubt good and evil would fit in this case since the Court is not exactly a bunch of good guys, and what that darkness is, we have yet to find out.
And I'm not sure if it was stated or not, but does Coyote see the whole world in such a manner? Or perhaps just his plan? He says that Loup fell in love with the wrong person, but what if he's wrong? Maybe he mistook Annie for Surma not because they look alike but rather because he perceives them as points of interest (or rather importance). And the same way he might have mistook Annie for Lana in his own plan as the RIGHT fire head girl. And Annie IS important to this whole story, and Coyote, as arrogant as he is, didn't consider the possibility of her NOT being a part of his extremely important plan. He is a god after all! And that raises the question of whether Coyote can fully comprehend his plan himself, of course. (Just like creating a stone he cannot lift haha!)
...a little wild speculation here. Probably wrong because I know I cannot fully comprehend this comic, heh~
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 17, 2023 19:29:57 GMT
Coyote still looking very angry with no other characters around to see him is slowly convincing me that he is indeed agry. He may be only grumpy. Or maybe these Coyote’s comebacks can only use whatever Loup does not. And since lately he began to rage less and think more… |
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Post by anag on Jul 17, 2023 19:37:08 GMT
Are we absolutely sure the darkness is Zimmy? I could see Kat and her works appearing as an absolute etheric void to Coyote Kat doesn't have etheric presence. That's why she was invited to the new world. She's like a god of technology, but Coyote assumes she's strong etheric power |
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Post by canonurl on Jul 18, 2023 0:43:07 GMT
i wonder, if lana is Capital D Dead, does that mean she is the first of the new people to need a guide to enter into the afterlife/ether? (genuine question here btw, i need to do a reread to refresh myself on all the details of this lore)
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 18, 2023 0:52:28 GMT
Yes, but which definition? "Power is most simply defined in Physics as the rate at which work is done. More specifically, it's the ratio of work to time." "A controlling entity that you cannot escape." "It keeps your internet working. Power goes, your internet goes, your mind explodes." "Urban street slang for the narcotic cocaine." |
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Anyway, that would look something like "Coyote goes insane and starts trying to hurt more people that Annie loves and must be stopped".
