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Post by maxptc on Jun 22, 2023 4:09:35 GMT
"Okay my convoluted scheme to make you kill a conglomeration of your 2nd and 3rd favorite magic animals didnt work. New plan, just stab me. STABMESTABMESTABME!"
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Post by Ophel on Jun 22, 2023 7:40:08 GMT
I always wonder if Coyote really means to have Annie kill Coyote.
Being a trickster, I can't really take what he says at face value.
Still, he is selfish, maybe he really does want Annie to kill Coyote.
Begs the question why though. Does he really not want to be anymore? Has he become bored of being and just wants it to stop? That'd be pretty on-brand of Coyote.
Unless, he has an ulterior motive behind what he said and was actually counting on Loup learning to love on something.
Well, one thing's for sure: Coyote is inscrutable at some level that's for sure.
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Post by philman on Jun 22, 2023 8:01:04 GMT
Is Coyote's plan still in effect? Or is he laughing at how surprising things are?  Coyote actually looks a bit deranged to me in the last panel. Also, bursting out of Jerrek's mouth like that seems sort of out of character. What if he has gone insane? Wouldn't it be quite a twist if Annie had to kill him (them) because of Coyote losing it, rather than because of Loup being a dick? Just a thought... Even though it seems slightly dark for Tom, I wouldn't rule it out - she still has Chekov's tooth-knife and all. Part of why I'm thinking this way is because of how different this appears compared to previous events. Jerrek looks quite distressed in the third panel - Coyote usually doesn't cause pain. He's manifesting in huge, intimidating mode. And perhaps most importantly, he's doing it in daylight, in public, and in the court! Maybe things are ok and going according to plan, but this feels different to me. No subtlety, no whispering of secrets (yet), and right in front of Lana so she can see her boyfriend being ripped open. I can't wait to see what happens next!
I wondered of Coyote's plan was to have Loup fall in love, but that he expected Loup to fall in ove with Annie (as we did start to see Loup make some weird moves on Annie before Lana got in the way), and so is surprised and finding it hilarious that Loup actually fell in love with Lana instead. I think Coyote failed to fully account for the New People. We saw in the past that when he created a new people, the shadow people, he got bored halfway through and never bothered to finish them, so perhaps he expected somethign similar from Kat's New People |
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Post by sosleepy on Jun 22, 2023 9:50:58 GMT
That looks... deeply unsettling. AND extremely unpleasant for Jerrek. And kinda gross.
The way he appeared is interesting, though. It's as if he was actually trying to get out or being pushed out of Jerrek's body. To think about it, Jerrek hasn't been acting in a "Coyote" manner in a while now. Perhaps they're getting separated now since Jerrek has become a complete new person and there's no place for Coyote anymore?
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Post by torontoregonian on Jun 22, 2023 10:56:27 GMT
Important question: Kat said that "we all eat a handful of dirt before we die"...has Jerrek/Loup eaten his handful of dirt already?
"Sorry, Annie, I didn't make that rule... I thought it was just a figure of speech. Lana, you better make sure Jerrek doesn't chow down on any dirt clods."
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Post by jasmijn on Jun 22, 2023 11:17:55 GMT
Well that explains it.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 22, 2023 15:03:39 GMT
So, was love what Coyote wanted Loup to learn?
What is remarkable is that last time he spoke with Annie, Coyote, with his "See you one last time", insinuated that the last time he and Annie meet would be the time Annie is supposed to kill Loup. But something obviously doesn't add up. "His next actions will leave you with little choice"? Doesn't look like it at the moment, honestly. Personally, I expected the final piece of Coyote which Annie would see to be hidden in the tooth, like the other two were hidden in the goose bone and the lake water. Hmm. Maybe I misinterpreted what happened, and the pieces of Coyote that turned up these two times were actually hidden inside Loup himself and were just released by getting the bone and water back?
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Post by blazingstar on Jun 22, 2023 16:14:35 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Jun 22, 2023 23:28:20 GMT
I suspect the current situation was *not* what Coyote was expecting at all. Which is why Coyote is laughing so hard Yet another thing Annie is involved in that's messing up a prediction |
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Post by arf on Jun 23, 2023 2:58:18 GMT
Coyote in the Court?
Not that the Court is too bothered by this stage. This is still the area where the robots were buried by Loup's terrestrial tsunami, right on the edge.
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Post by csj on Jun 26, 2023 7:37:29 GMT
So, was love what Coyote wanted Loup to learn? coyote would also goad ys into this just to make fun of him dating a fake human |
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Post by fia on Jun 26, 2023 13:14:39 GMT
This all makes me want to meet Coyotagoat and what convoluted scheme that was for |
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Post by drmemory on Jun 26, 2023 19:13:43 GMT
Remember, Coyote is dead! Ysengrin killed him and ate him. This is just the final appearance of the little piece he left behind to see what would happen.
Assuming what he's said has been true, of course. We certainly can't rule out trickery and pranks on his part!
But, if everything he has said in the past is true, then this will be the last time he appears to talk to Annie, and she still has to kill Loup with her laughing knife, and then do something that he thinks she'll be able to handle. I've always suspected that he means to go into the ether, taken there by Annie, but that could be wrong. Wierd too since he's a creature of the ether but I could see that striking him as funny and something he's never done! Or maybe she's supposed to inherit his power and do something with it.
A thought - just because Coyote is dead, that doesn't mean that Ysengrin is. As for Loup - maybe she has to kill him to release Ysengrin? But it's all more complicated now that Loup has to blave. Maybe they'll just all sit down to a nice MLT instead of a triple death. Or should that be quadruple with Jerrek in the picture?
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Post by mturtle7 on Jun 27, 2023 2:26:58 GMT
Remember, Coyote is dead! Ysengrin killed him and ate him. This is just the final appearance of the little piece he left behind to see what would happen. Assuming what he's said has been true, of course. We certainly can't rule out trickery and pranks on his part! But, if everything he has said in the past is true, then this will be the last time he appears to talk to Annie, and she still has to kill Loup with her laughing knife, and then do something that he thinks she'll be able to handle. I've always suspected that he means to go into the ether, taken there by Annie, but that could be wrong. Wierd too since he's a creature of the ether but I could see that striking him as funny and something he's never done! Or maybe she's supposed to inherit his power and do something with it. A thought - just because Coyote is dead, that doesn't mean that Ysengrin is. As for Loup - maybe she has to kill him to release Ysengrin? But it's all more complicated now that Loup has to blave. Maybe they'll just all sit down to a nice MLT instead of a triple death. Or should that be quadruple with Jerrek in the picture? Sadly, Coyote has confirmed that "when you use the tooth to pierce Loup's heart, you will be truly killing him, myself, and ysengrin". So, assuming Coyote's plan actually comes to fruition (which seems almost certain, based on his portrayal in the comic so far), we are indeed getting a triple death. |
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Post by blahzor on Jun 27, 2023 3:52:15 GMT
This all makes me want to meet Coyotagoat and what convoluted scheme that was for Y's Mistake was he had eyes before he are Coyote |
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Post by silicondream on Jun 27, 2023 12:07:58 GMT
I figure Coyote's laughing because Loup's first relationship has just imploded. He thought Lana was absolutely, perfectly devoted to him, because she said so, and robots can't lie. He was wrong. There are plenty of things Lana doesn't like about him, probably including the fact that he's a violent dishonest paranoid narcissistic batterer.
His consort has betrayed him. Tricked him! And now she's over there talking to Some Guy, and maybe she's remembering That Guy, and....
I think Loup's about to do something drastic, possibly to Lana, and possibly to himself. That's when Annie will have to operate.
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Post by drmemory on Jun 27, 2023 21:33:44 GMT
Remember, Coyote is dead! Ysengrin killed him and ate him. This is just the final appearance of the little piece he left behind to see what would happen. Assuming what he's said has been true, of course. We certainly can't rule out trickery and pranks on his part! But, if everything he has said in the past is true, then this will be the last time he appears to talk to Annie, and she still has to kill Loup with her laughing knife, and then do something that he thinks she'll be able to handle. I've always suspected that he means to go into the ether, taken there by Annie, but that could be wrong. Wierd too since he's a creature of the ether but I could see that striking him as funny and something he's never done! Or maybe she's supposed to inherit his power and do something with it. A thought - just because Coyote is dead, that doesn't mean that Ysengrin is. As for Loup - maybe she has to kill him to release Ysengrin? But it's all more complicated now that Loup has to blave. Maybe they'll just all sit down to a nice MLT instead of a triple death. Or should that be quadruple with Jerrek in the picture? Sadly, Coyote has confirmed that "when you use the tooth to pierce Loup's heart, you will be truly killing him, myself, and ysengrin". So, assuming Coyote's plan actually comes to fruition (which seems almost certain, based on his portrayal in the comic so far), we are indeed getting a triple death. You're probably right, but I'm still hoping for a loophole. Also trying to figure out what will really happen when they die - will Annie be able to take them into the ether? And if she can, should she? Would it really be good to have Coyote in there?
And of course, I'm wondering what will happen to Coyote's power if he/they really die for good. Will Annie get it maybe? I hope Robot doesn't - really don't want to see him ascend...
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Post by blahzor on Jun 27, 2023 22:33:53 GMT
I don't think Y's ever coming back really
He'll only come back because of Coyote or Kat's choice
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 28, 2023 23:39:33 GMT
I figure Coyote's laughing because Loup's first relationship has just imploded. He thought Lana was absolutely, perfectly devoted to him, because she said so, and robots can't lie. He was wrong. There are plenty of things Lana doesn't like about him, probably including the fact that he's a violent dishonest paranoid narcissistic batterer. His consort has betrayed him. Tricked him! And now she's over there talking to Some Guy, and maybe she's remembering That Guy, and.... I think Loup's about to do something drastic, possibly to Lana, and possibly to himself. That's when Annie will have to operate. Is this meant to be satire or something? Because otherwise I have officially no idea what you are talking about. |
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 3, 2023 15:33:49 GMT
Jerrek covers his mouth and looks surprised himself after his outburst, but then he starts to laugh more, and then a laughing Coyote emerges from his body via his mouth. Annie, surprised, falls to the ground. Lana and Renard see this happening. And the chapter ends.
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Post by drmemory on Jul 3, 2023 15:57:43 GMT
So what was the trigger to wake up the "Coyote echo"? Maybe Loup talking about love to Annie?
I don't think he's laughing about things going off-script. If he's really an echo and not a real, alive, Coyote, then he was probably set up to watch for an event to happen before entering the scene. The conversation matched the trigger he set up, so here he is! Even though the details don't match his plan.
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