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Post by Corvo on May 26, 2023 7:17:19 GMT
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Post by laaaa on May 26, 2023 7:20:20 GMT
...I can't believe they're letting him waltz around. ...Wait, on second thought, I think I kinda get it. Annie never wanted to commit murder in the first place. Loup is giving her a tiny, unlikely, unexpected way out. She hoped one would come up so she took it. That, or they have absolute faith on Kat's abilities.
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Post by arf on May 26, 2023 7:39:08 GMT
I'm also a bit surprised by Jerrek's sudden change in circumstances. Maybe this will be explained by way of a warning reminder when he starts whatever he's going to do. (which may or may not involve robots)
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Post by murk on May 26, 2023 8:34:08 GMT
The numans behave the same as they did when they were robots. When they were robots it was kind-of cute, but now that they look like humans it's just creepy. What kind of -ist does that make me? A racist? A specieist? A biologist?
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Post by yhbc on May 26, 2023 10:30:52 GMT
...I can't believe they're letting him waltz around. ...Wait, on second thought, I think I kinda get it. Annie never wanted to commit murder in the first place. Loup is giving her a tiny, unlikely, unexpected way out. She hoped one would come up so she took it. That, or they have absolute faith on Kat's abilities. Walking around with him surprised me too, but then I remembered that they've known Jerrek is Loup for just as long as we have known that Robot knew that too, which is several weeks if not months of continuity time. They spent that entire time (well, except for the time Jerrek spent shacked up with Lana) letting him waltz around so why stop now I guess.
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Post by ctso74 on May 26, 2023 13:26:15 GMT
Huh. The way he just answered Rey, made me wonder if he stashed Rey's body in the ironwood ground, for safe keeping.
NP#1: "Drat! I used to have a compartment, where I stored flowers just for this kind of situation." NP#2: "We still have compartm-" NP#1: "Flowers do not come out... Why do roses have so many thorns?..."
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Post by electricguitarsolo on May 26, 2023 14:16:58 GMT
With the second mention of "sincerity" in two pages, I'm convinced that Annie's "Haha, there's no way we'd believe he was sincere! Not after what did to Renard." on 2672 has to have been foreshadowing for whatever Loup's about to do.
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Post by Gemminie on May 26, 2023 15:15:29 GMT
Establishing shot: the digsite where the New People continue to excavate buried robots using Kat's terrain manipulator tools. We see three New People present. Then, as one of them picks up one of the tools, another one looks back and notices something: the Angel approaching. Kat, Annie, Renard, Lana, and Jerrek are coming this way; apparently Kat chose to let Jerrek out of the cage, and Annie and Renard have stowed the tooth. They're giving him a chance to prove himself.
The New People are surprised by her visit and immediately want to get her some flowers, but she says it's okay and they're actually busy with something. Renard asks Jerrek what he's up to, but all he can say for now is that he hopes this will prove his sincerity, while Annie gives him a suspicious side-eye.
So ... Annie, Kat, and Renard let Jerrek out of the cage before he explained just what he would do to prove he was for real? How many chances are you gonna give this guy, Annie? He just burned up Renard's body. And if he hadn't attacked the Court in the first place, the robots wouldn't have been at the edge of it for him to bury by dumping the Forest on them. I've seen people speculating about Loup raising all the rest of the buried robots; maybe he thinks that will prove his sincerity? I don't really see how it would prove that, any more than conjuring milkshakes for everyone or giving all the New People the ability to fly would.
I still think that what would best prove his sincerity about not wanting the tooth is giving up large portions of his power. But wait – what if he does that, and then the robots emerge from the ground? What if he gives a bunch of power to Kat, and she's the one who raises the robots out of the soil? Suddenly she's really the Angel and has amazing powers. Or he gives it to Annie, and she does the same? I've thought for a long time that Coyote was testing Annie to see whether she was worthy of succeeding him in some way. But why would he bring them out to the digsite in order to do that? No, I'm afraid that he's just going to perform a large but useful trick and expect it to prove him sincere. Even if he also put this part of the Court back to rights, and reassembled the Forest, giving the tree people their homes back, how would that prove that he wasn't interested in following Coyote's plan anymore?
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 26, 2023 15:58:39 GMT
He's going to Lazarus the buried robots.
It's almost too obvious for him to be at the dig site, but I wouldn't be surprised if he does.
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Post by blahzor on May 26, 2023 18:34:23 GMT
Kat is probably offhandely thinking she should upgrade their tools now that she is a lv 90 wizard
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Post by blahzor on May 26, 2023 18:36:17 GMT
The numans behave the same as they did when they were robots. When they were robots it was kind-of cute, but now that they look like humans it's just creepy. What kind of -ist does that make me? A racist? A specieist? A biologist? tracksuit-ist
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 26, 2023 19:52:42 GMT
Kat is probably offhandely thinking she should upgrade their tools now that she is a lv 90 wizard Unless time-shenanigans are involved I don't think she's been single anywhere near long enough to be a level 90 wizard.
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Post by csj on May 27, 2023 1:19:39 GMT
he who giveth giant magical tree roots can also taketh away
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Post by silicondream on May 27, 2023 3:15:16 GMT
Kat is probably offhandely thinking she should upgrade their tools now that she is a lv 90 wizard Unless time-shenanigans are involved I don't think she's been single anywhere near long enough to be a level 90 wizard. She lost her girlfriend by making herself into a Bluetooth peripheral. That immediately contributes 800 years towards one's Forever Alone badge.
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Post by drmemory on May 27, 2023 6:00:57 GMT
What is Loup about to do? I see two possibilities: 1. Fix what he did to the forest. 2. Get Renard's body back (or make him a new one or shift one in or something along those lines). Fixing the forest seems a little more likely to me right now but it really depends on which thing Loup has done that he feels the worst about. I have a hunch that it will be that, because it affected so many others. Fixing Renard's body would only help Renard, and frankly, even though Loup is in love and wants to make amends, I have to think he probably still doesn't like Renard that much. Remember the trick Renard planed on Ysengrin in the Coyote side comic? Remember all the stories showing Ysengrin as the butt of jokes, and always showing Renard winning? I think it's gonna take a while for him to get over all of that, even to please Annie. That's the other thing- who does Loup really care about, other than Lana? Well both Coyote and Ysengrin love Annie, and Loup probably still does too, even though he's maturing a tiny bit and not thinking of his feelings for her the same way since he's gotten Lana. He seems pretty impressed with Kat now but I doubt he cares that much about impressing her. And as I say, he probably still doesn't really care for Renard all that much. Think of all we've seen him do, from the point of view of a newborn god, who poofed into existence with a lot of power and with memories of one of his parts and emotions of both but with no actual life experience. I think he started out loving Annie because both Coyote and Ysengrin did. I think he started out hating Renard because Ysengrin did - note that his prejudices and emotions almost entirely came from Ysengrin - I bet his memories did too! He started with Ysengrin's memories, including the ones Coyote had stolen. Coyote's do not seem to have been available to him. He still to this day doesn't know Coyote's plan! I'm sure he's missing quite a lot of important information due to Coyote hiding it from him.
So anyway, he tried to make Annie love him, tried to get more powerful on the theory that he was failing to control the forest because Coyote kept back some power, and always was ready to think the worst of Renard. Is it really any wonder he ended up punishing Renard? He probably thought of it as well-deserved revenge. So I don't really think he feels that bad about torching his body and will be surprised if fixing it is his plan. Maybe if Lana nags him about it? But I could see him feeling bad about destroying all the forest critter's homes and banishing the elves, so I could see him trying to fix that.
As for why he's walking around, not in a cage - that's pretty obvious. Kat can almost certainly just poit the cage around him when needed, and Annie is carrying the sword. I'm sure he's been given the chance to show he really has changed by Annie, but if he does something bad he'll be right back in a cage or killed by Coyote Tooth Sword. In love or not, Loup has never shown us any sneakiness or subtlety.
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Post by drmemory on May 27, 2023 6:06:39 GMT
Oh. Almost forgot. Jerrek/Loup's plan will probably backfire. Whether he tries to directly fix the forest or to fix part of it, like by reopening the canyon and putting the river back, he's shown no talent for complex planning. Whatever he's about to do will probably not have the effect he's hoping for. I hope it's not something REALLY stupid, like a mass time rollback... We can only hope that Coyote's plan is still on track. I say this because Coyote's plan probably doesn't include killing off any of our heroes. Probably.
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Post by maxptc on May 27, 2023 6:56:22 GMT
"Okay, but at this point isn't whatever you're planning to do unnecessary? I mean isn't you being out of our cage and not attacking or disappearing also an act proving your trustworthiness?"
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Post by blahzor on May 27, 2023 8:53:19 GMT
Kat is probably offhandely thinking she should upgrade their tools now that she is a lv 90 wizard Unless time-shenanigans are involved I don't think she's been single anywhere near long enough to be a level 90 wizard. she built hyperbolic time chamber. As shes' a woman of culture
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Post by blahzor on May 27, 2023 8:55:54 GMT
"Okay, but at this point isn't whatever you're planning to do unnecessary? I mean isn't you being out of our cage and not attacking or disappearing also an act proving your trustworthiness?" except he's bring them closer to the forest
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 27, 2023 12:45:52 GMT
Unless time-shenanigans are involved I don't think she's been single anywhere near long enough to be a level 90 wizard. She lost her girlfriend by making herself into a Bluetooth peripheral. That immediately contributes 800 years towards one's Forever Alone badge. That is an excellent point. Said ex-girlfriend fled not only the country but arguably the dimension, and that deserves a big multiplier. Come to think of it, she gets super-awesome grades and her parents are both teachers. Ironic call-back: " You're alone because YOU'RE INSANE!" A very long time ago I proposed that panel/logue should be made into a t-shirt/tagline and sold as merch. I still think it would be great.
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Post by pyradonis on May 29, 2023 19:51:16 GMT
What if he gives a bunch of power to Kat, and she's the one who raises the robots out of the soil? Suddenly she's really the Angel and has amazing powers. Or he gives it to Annie, and she does the same? I've thought for a long time that Coyote was testing Annie to see whether she was worthy of succeeding him in some way. Interesting idea. However I'd like to point out that whenever Coyote gave one of his powers away, it was corrupted in some unpleasant way.
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Post by blahzor on May 30, 2023 6:15:15 GMT
What if he gives a bunch of power to Kat, and she's the one who raises the robots out of the soil? Suddenly she's really the Angel and has amazing powers. Or he gives it to Annie, and she does the same? I've thought for a long time that Coyote was testing Annie to see whether she was worthy of succeeding him in some way. Interesting idea. However I'd like to point out that whenever Coyote gave one of his powers away, it was corrupted in some unpleasant way. At best if given to Kat she would filter it through the arrow and computer to avoid the corruption
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Post by silicondream on May 30, 2023 21:15:57 GMT
What if he gives a bunch of power to Kat, and she's the one who raises the robots out of the soil? Suddenly she's really the Angel and has amazing powers. Or he gives it to Annie, and she does the same? I've thought for a long time that Coyote was testing Annie to see whether she was worthy of succeeding him in some way. Interesting idea. However I'd like to point out that whenever Coyote gave one of his powers away, it was corrupted in some unpleasant way. A corrupted power may reflect the unworthiness of the recipient, or vice versa.
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