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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2023 7:07:48 GMT
I wanted to use "We knew you were going to do something sooner or later!" for the thread title but there were slightly too many characters. |
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Post by blahzor on May 17, 2023 7:17:01 GMT
Those bars have teeth
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Post by V on May 17, 2023 7:19:30 GMT
Annie: Trust me, I've already cut one neck earlier today.
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Post by arf on May 17, 2023 7:55:50 GMT
Are those bars... laughing?
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Post by arf on May 17, 2023 7:58:05 GMT
"Try something? Yeah. I'm trying to give myself up without being stabbed! Guess I'm halfway there..."
(I do get it these three aren't going to buy that line immediately.)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2023 8:14:50 GMT
[not really relevant] In that last panel is that a rogue apostrophe after the "you" in "I'll bet you won't"? I thought it was a bit of something stuck to my screen but it seems to stay there even if I scroll up/down a bit. [/not really relevant]
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Post by arf on May 17, 2023 9:03:27 GMT
Looks like a rogue apostrophe, left when 'you'll' was changed to 'you' perhaps? ...or maybe it's a plot point? |
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Post by bicarbonat on May 17, 2023 9:05:37 GMT
Abandon Operation Goose: Mission Of Mercy – repeat, the goose is cooked, abort, abort
Also, I'm sure Lana's going to be a real spanner in the works if things go critical. Worse still if the stress of de-goosing + "no [singular, only (1)] good deed goes unpunished" causes Lou-rrek to snap and belittle their fledgling relationship.
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Post by blahzor on May 17, 2023 10:43:21 GMT
[not really relevant] In that last panel is that a rogue apostrophe after the "you" in "I'll bet you won't"? I thought it was a bit of something stuck to my screen but it seems to stay there even if I scroll up/down a bit. [/not really relevant] I just read it as "you'll" and brain just ignored if it made sense |
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Post by Corvo on May 17, 2023 11:22:36 GMT
Is this the part where the villain explain how they trapped the hero instead of actually doing something about it?
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Post by pyradonis on May 17, 2023 12:16:58 GMT
Looks like a rogue apostrophe, left when 'you'll' was changed to 'you' perhaps? ...or maybe it's a plot point? Question to the native speakers: Is "you'll not be getting past these bars" correct and equivalent to "you won't be getting past these bars"?
Is this the part where the villain explain how they trapped the hero instead of actually doing something about it?Followed by Annie and Kat meticulously explaining how their slow-moving death machine works before running off and leaving Loup ample opportunity to escape? |
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Post by electricguitarsolo on May 17, 2023 12:28:18 GMT
Looks like a rogue apostrophe, left when 'you'll' was changed to 'you' perhaps? ...or maybe it's a plot point? Question to the native speakers: Is "you'll not be getting past these bars" correct and equivalent to "you won't be getting past these bars"? Yes, though it sounds even more over-the-top dramatic.
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Post by ctso74 on May 17, 2023 15:00:46 GMT
That bead of sweet as Jerroup looks at the bars' code: "COBOL? Who the hell uses COBOL? What is she a bank?"
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2023 15:33:31 GMT
Question to the native speakers: Is "you'll not be getting past these bars" correct and equivalent to "you won't be getting past these bars"? Yes, though it sounds even more over-the-top dramatic.
Dramatic yes but more specifically I think "you'll" or "you're" formulations would sound vindictive in these circumstances which would be out-of-character for even a recently-dumped Kat, in my opinion. Also "you're" would've been slightly too big for the current size of bubble whereas "you'll" would be about perfect, so yeah, it was probably "you'll" originally. |
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Post by Gemminie on May 17, 2023 17:03:00 GMT
After Annie arms herself with Coyote's tooth/dagger, Lana jumps in the way sort of between her and Jerrek's cage. Seen from above, the cage's corner appears to be a less than 90 degree angle, so perhaps it's actually a rhombus (or rhomboidal prism) rather than a rectangular prism in shape. Or perhaps its shape gradually shifts around. Annie is holding the dagger in both hands, facing Lana rather than Jerrek. While Lana tries to explain that Jerrek's here to do something non-bad, Jerrek just expresses confusion about what's going on.
Annie explains that she called Renard here on the way, and Renard explains that they knew Loup would try something eventually. And Kat explains that on the way over she set up this "restricting grid" (we now have a name for it) for Jerrek – and that it's a new improved version of the snare she used before. Close-up of Jerrek's eye, looking at one of these green bars with some kind of red pattern inside them; his green eyes also have a bit of red in them as a drop of sweat rolls down his face.
Tense moment. And Annie's shifted the dagger to her right hand, after having it in both hands. But everybody's talking for now, not attacking. Perhaps they'll let Jerrek say his peace.
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Post by blazingstar on May 17, 2023 18:01:47 GMT
Question to the native speakers: Is "you'll not be getting past these bars" correct and equivalent to "you won't be getting past these bars"? Correct and equivalent? Technically, yes. But their tone is very different, and it probably depends on culture/location. "You'll not be getting past these bars": over-the-top, dramatic, exceedingly formal; if heard in America, would be mistaken for a British English speaker, or a movie/stage actor with an old Mid-Atlantic accent. There's absolutely no way to say this in a North American accent without sounding silly. "You won't be getting past these bars": more casual, direct, to-the-point, therefore implies speaker is more dangerous; someone who isn't worried about formalities and is done fooling around; would be the only normal way to say this line in American English. |
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Post by mturtle7 on May 17, 2023 18:41:47 GMT
Is this the part where the villain explain how they trapped the hero instead of actually doing something about it?"You sly dogwolf! You got me monologuing!" |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 17, 2023 18:45:41 GMT
Question to the native speakers: Is "you'll not be getting past these bars" correct and equivalent to "you won't be getting past these bars"? "You'll not be getting past these bars": over-the-top, dramatic, exceedingly formal; if heard in America, would be mistaken for a British English speaker, or a movie/stage actor with an old Mid-Atlantic accent. There's absolutely no way to say this in a North American accent without sounding silly. Respectfully disagree. Enunciate both and slow-roll the last syllable in "you'll" followed by big emphasis on "not" and you've got a dripping-with-malice proclamation for someone you've just locked up in a cage that could reasonably come from an American holding a grudge (particularly northern east coast but I could also see that spoken in a twang or drawl; not sure about left coast tho). |
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Post by blazingstar on May 17, 2023 19:53:38 GMT
"You'll not be getting past these bars": over-the-top, dramatic, exceedingly formal; if heard in America, would be mistaken for a British English speaker, or a movie/stage actor with an old Mid-Atlantic accent. There's absolutely no way to say this in a North American accent without sounding silly. Respectfully disagree. Enunciate both and slow-roll the last syllable in "you'll" followed by big emphasis on "not" and you've got a dripping-with-malice proclamation for someone you've just locked up in a cage that could reasonably come from an American holding a grudge (particularly northern east coast but I could also see that spoken in a twang or drawl; not sure about left coast tho). That's fair. My apologies to the entire southern United States and their respective accents. This definitely wouldn't be out of place spoken by a Texan gentleman or a Carolinian southern belle. But I still hold that it would sound really formal. (Although I acknowledge that "passive-aggressive formality" sums up most of Southern culture, especially language.) |
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Post by bedinsis on May 17, 2023 20:58:26 GMT
I wanted to use "We knew you were going to do something sooner or later!" for the thread title but there were slightly too many characters. Could've gone with "We knew you'd do something sooner or later!" |
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Post by silicondream on May 18, 2023 2:23:36 GMT
Respectfully disagree. Enunciate both and slow-roll the last syllable in "you'll" followed by big emphasis on "not" and you've got a dripping-with-malice proclamation for someone you've just locked up in a cage that could reasonably come from an American holding a grudge (particularly northern east coast but I could also see that spoken in a twang or drawl; not sure about left coast tho). That's fair. My apologies to the entire southern United States and their respective accents. This definitely wouldn't be out of place spoken by a Texan gentleman or a Carolinian southern belle. But I still hold that it would sound really formal. (Although I acknowledge that "passive-aggressive formality" sums up most of Southern culture, especially language.) Professor Google sez this grammatical feature is called "auxiliary contraction;" in British English it's mostly found in Scotland and Northern England, and in American English it's mostly found in areas historically settled by the Scotch-Irish. So it's particularly common in Appalachia. Any non-Appalachian Americans you hear using the phrase are clearly statistical outliers and can be mocked or ignored as you prefer. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 18, 2023 3:24:57 GMT
That's fair. My apologies to the entire southern United States and their respective accents. This definitely wouldn't be out of place spoken by a Texan gentleman or a Carolinian southern belle. But I still hold that it would sound really formal. (Although I acknowledge that "passive-aggressive formality" sums up most of Southern culture, especially language.) Professor Google sez this grammatical feature is called "auxiliary contraction;" in British English it's mostly found in Scotland and Northern England, and in American English it's mostly found in areas historically settled by the Scotch-Irish. So it's particularly common in Appalachia. Any non-Appalachian Americans you hear using the phrase are clearly statistical outliers and can be mocked or ignored as you prefer. I'd argue that subject auxiliary negation is somewhat common when people want to express sarcasm, aggro somebody, or ram home a contentious point. Think trash-talk in sports, unmoderated bbs, or third-person shooter chat. It's a way of playing with language to add emphasis. [edit] "You'll not be" google search yields more than 9.4 million results. [/edit] |
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Post by silicondream on May 18, 2023 6:43:17 GMT
Well fine, go ahead and argue with the professor. But remember, her office hours are not infinite in number. Just very very numerous.
*jogs back to the door next to the door of the ombudsman, slinks through the armadillo flap at its bottom*
Anyways, in competitive situations I think Americans typically either drop the copula entirely, e.g. "Not gonna happen!", or resort to contractions that only lemurs still recall, e.g. "imma punch yeh in yer gonads, yew barmy omnipotent dhole."
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 18, 2023 9:07:13 GMT
Anyways, in competitive situations I think Americans typically either drop the copula entirely, e.g. "Not gonna happen!", or resort to contractions that only lemurs still recall, e.g. "imma punch yeh in yer gonads, yew barmy omnipotent dhole." It's true that what makes the highlight reels, jebait compilations, and the portion of the video that goes viral is almost always truncated sentences and short words, sometimes completely unintelligible, or just screams and grunts... but that's what the recipient is doing at the end phase, the cherry on top of a successful trashtalk sundae, if you will. |
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Post by TBeholder on May 18, 2023 15:42:35 GMT
Previous page: akshun sequence happens. Current page: everyone is monologuing at each other. With exception of Loup who is too distracted by the weird trap. So… back to the business as usual.  That bead of sweet as Jerroup looks at the bars' code: "COBOL? Who the hell uses COBOL? What is she a bank?" Was learning COBOL. Pain. Torture. Horrible screaming. Sorenson asked for help. Many days and nights. Light arrived. Light offered help. Sorenson changed. Free person now. |
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Post by Isildur on May 18, 2023 16:15:32 GMT
That bead of sweet as Jerroup looks at the bars' code: "COBOL? Who the hell uses COBOL? What is she a bank?" Hah, one of my aunts still programmed in COBOL for banks, until retiring about a dozen years ago. |
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Post by Isildur on May 18, 2023 16:40:29 GMT
"You'll not be getting past these bars": over-the-top, dramatic, exceedingly formal; if heard in America, would be mistaken for a British English speaker, or a movie/stage actor with an old Mid-Atlantic accent. There's absolutely no way to say this in a North American accent without sounding silly. Respectfully disagree. Enunciate both and slow-roll the last syllable in "you'll" followed by big emphasis on "not" and you've got a dripping-with-malice proclamation for someone you've just locked up in a cage that could reasonably come from an American holding a grudge (particularly northern east coast but I could also see that spoken in a twang or drawl; not sure about left coast tho). Northeasterner here-- I have trouble imagining someone from nearby states saying it without either deliberate, consciously theatrical affectation or having at least previously developed some atypical verbal habits (like a college friend of mine who sounded vaguely British because she didn't flap her "t"s). "You'll" is standardly one syllable ("yūl"), at least as syllables are understood in English, so by "last syllable in 'you'll'" do you mean dragging it out into "yūwəl"? If someone was inclined to slow it down that much, I think they probably would just not contract it to begin with. |
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Post by Isildur on May 18, 2023 16:50:04 GMT
Well fine, go ahead and argue with the professor. But remember, her office hours are not infinite in number. Just very very numerous. *jogs back to the door next to the door of the ombudsman, slinks through the armadillo flap at its bottom* Anyways, in competitive situations I think Americans typically either drop the copula entirely, e.g. "Not gonna happen!", or resort to contractions that only lemurs still recall, e.g. "imma punch yeh in yer gonads, yew barmy omnipotent dhole." "Yeh" and "barmy" don't sound very American. (Or is that part of your joke?) "Ya" (pronounced "yÉ™") and "nutty" are more likely. Pronouncing "you" as "yew" (like the tree)... as opposed to what other pronunciation? |
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Post by Isildur on May 18, 2023 16:59:23 GMT
[not really relevant] In that last panel is that a rogue apostrophe after the "you" in "I'll bet you won't"? I thought it was a bit of something stuck to my screen but it seems to stay there even if I scroll up/down a bit. [/not really relevant] s been corrected (presumably either because of your noting it, or because of one or more people in the on-site, temporary comments doing so). |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 18, 2023 18:55:45 GMT
Respectfully disagree. Enunciate both and slow-roll the last syllable in "you'll" followed by big emphasis on "not" and you've got a dripping-with-malice proclamation for someone you've just locked up in a cage that could reasonably come from an American holding a grudge (particularly northern east coast but I could also see that spoken in a twang or drawl; not sure about left coast tho). Northeasterner here-- I have trouble imagining someone from nearby states saying it without either deliberate, consciously theatrical affectation or having at least previously developed some atypical verbal habits (like a college friend of mine who sounded vaguely British because she didn't flap her "t"s). "You'll" is standardly one syllable ("yūl"), at least as syllables are understood in English, so by "last syllable in 'you'll'" do you mean dragging it out into "yūwəl"? If someone was inclined to slow it down that much, I think they probably would just not contract it to begin with. I'm a recovering nor'easterner and I have heard "you'll" as "yūwəl" when people's blood gets fired up, though "yūl" is of course much more common. My mother used to say it that way when using my government name, for example, but I've had the mixed blessing of hearing it in other circumstances. As silicondream noted it is mostly Appalachian or Appalachian-adjacent but yep I have heard it elsewhere. If you want to say it's theatrical I won't say that's wrong, though I wouldn't call it an affectation. It seems to resurface naturally when strong emphasis is desired, say for persuasion or intimidation; although I can't cite a particular instance I'm pretty sure I've also heard it a few times in common parlance where it isn't supposed to be. As Aata said, make of that what you will. |
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