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Post by madjack on Mar 22, 2023 7:18:32 GMT
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Post by silicondream on Mar 22, 2023 9:01:47 GMT
Annie's a good friend, and Paz is a good partner. I wonder how much Paz has been told about the New People at this point?
Als doesn't look like Kat overheard them, although even if she did she'd normally be too polite to mention it.
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Post by rafk on Mar 22, 2023 9:34:05 GMT
If the next question is a relentlessly cheery "So what did you guys talk about while you were on the way here?" we will know she heard.
And then if we're very very lucky she's going to go the full Mr Flibble on them.
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Post by blahzor on Mar 22, 2023 11:38:52 GMT
Man this all feels weird having no body. I just dreamt I heard the entire conversation y'all had
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Post by sosleepy on Mar 22, 2023 12:07:27 GMT
A perfect conclusion to a conversation everyone needed
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 22, 2023 12:18:27 GMT
Those robot arms in the background of panel #4 are not only big enough to pick up and reposition one of these production cells or intensive server farms but they could be used to assemble a reasonably big ship, ocean-going or space-faring.
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Post by storyteller on Mar 22, 2023 14:02:55 GMT
The funny thing with Annie's comment is how it highlights that I think that on this front, the audience does trust Zimmy more than Kat. Admittedly part of that is Zimmy consistently being close enough on the large details that her seeing trouble usually indeed means trouble.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 22, 2023 14:38:40 GMT
This place is so huge, how did the two of them even know where to go? Or is there an obvious straight path through it?
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Post by grahamf on Mar 22, 2023 14:51:03 GMT
"Ok now all you have to do is to write a function that causes the safeties to recognize each other properly so they stop feeding into each other. It'll be easy, it's only about 1,000 lines of code you have to write"
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 22, 2023 14:57:41 GMT
If she wasn't listening as they walked, I hope she has cameras in her farm, at least.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 22, 2023 15:13:52 GMT
This place is so huge, how did the two of them even know where to go? Or is there an obvious straight path through it? Since Kat apparently couldn't put them down exactly where they needed to be, I'm thinking she oriented them to the way they needed to go back in #2755. They weren't in a cul-de-sac when they arrived but Kat chose to put them somewhere where the correct way was the most visually appealing. The cells and farms have space between them that effectively forms an obvious path but they could have gone between them in other directions. Behind them was probably a big cell that would have forced them to go left or right, or at least that's the impression I get from the following pages. I think they've just been travelling in the same direction that they were facing when Kat transported them in and they've been walking forward in more or less a straight line. That again brings up the question "Why not just transport them directly to where they need to be?" and I guess the answer(s) could include 1) the energy involved might have a bad effect on the electronics and/or biologicals 2) Kat might have a security feature that prevents people from beaming directly to anything too sensitive and 3) the story requires time for Antimony and Paz to converse. |
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Post by maxptc on Mar 22, 2023 16:06:39 GMT
"Ok now all you have to do is to write a function that causes the safeties to recognize each other properly so they stop feeding into each other. It'll be easy, it's only about 1,000 lines of code you have to write" "Just code carefully or you could accidentally do something like project my mind into all the buried robots. But I rarely make coding mistakes, so you two should be fine." |
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Post by rabbit on Mar 22, 2023 16:08:30 GMT
The funny thing with Annie's comment is how it highlights that I think that on this front, the audience does trust Zimmy more than Kat. Admittedly part of that is Zimmy consistently being close enough on the large details that her seeing trouble usually indeed means trouble. is right, Zimmy is fairly accurate on large details. Speaking only for me, I can't say I trust her more than Kat, because Zimmy's outlook is colored by her distrust, paranoia and readiness to dole out vengeance. Zimmy thinks the worst of herself, and so often sees or expects the worst from the world. I can say, though, that I empathize more with her than Kat, because she is fundamentally broken young woman who keeps up a prickly, off-putting personality as her armor, but is a good person when it comes down to it (where "good person" = cares about others). |
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Post by storyteller on Mar 22, 2023 16:54:41 GMT
The funny thing with Annie's comment is how it highlights that I think that on this front, the audience does trust Zimmy more than Kat. Admittedly part of that is Zimmy consistently being close enough on the large details that her seeing trouble usually indeed means trouble. is right, Zimmy is fairly accurate on large details. Speaking only for me, I can't say I trust her more than Kat, because Zimmy's outlook is colored by her distrust, paranoia and readiness to dole out vengeance. Zimmy thinks the worst of herself, and so often sees or expects the worst from the world. I can say, though, that I empathize more with her than Kat, because she is fundamentally broken young woman who keeps up a prickly, off-putting personality as her armor, but is a good person when it comes down to it (where "good person" = cares about others). Yeah. Usually Kat is the more dependable individual because just not fighting essentially psychosis. It's just that in this case it's ... Well the one thing Zimmy is actually saying is the big detail. She's not ascribing Motive or cause to Kat. She just has the end effect of her dead. And she's been extremely consistent with her concern about Kat for years. Which I think is the piece going over Annie's head because the fact that Zimmy always disliked Kat because she believed Kat was going to kill isn't in the cause effect order for her. Annie appears to think Zimmy believes that because she dislikes Kay. And missing the fact that Zimmy has moderated her stance towards Kat overtime from activating believing her to be malicious (surprised at Kat getting blankets for Gamma) to wariness. Like when Zimmy chased Paz off she just warned Annie to keep an eye on Kat. Which is what leads to this feeling of impending doom because the one thing with Zimmy's visions is that they are unreliable. The audience simultaneously knows that Zimmy is accurate enough - basically all of Divine but it's tenuous enough that really it feels like all that Kat would need to do to stop it is actually look at her stuff and try and think of what is setting off Zimmy's power. Because Kat is indeed reliable and non malicious. Meanwhile her ignoring reasonable concerns... Well that's how you have someone like her accidentally kill someone. And also fitting into Zimmy's warning of her asking Annie to keep an eye on Kat. I do wonder just how concerned Kat and Annie would be if Anthony identified Zimmy as the individual who punched his face to save Annie. Because that's where a lot of Zimmy's credibility comes from. And also a showing of her being not malicious around Kat because typically Zimmy avoids her like the plague. |
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Post by drmemory on Mar 22, 2023 17:28:45 GMT
I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Dave.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 22, 2023 21:07:04 GMT
Thank you for reading this chapter about… teen girls chatting about their friend.  Those robot arms in the background of panel #4 are not only big enough to pick up and reposition one of these production cells or intensive server farms but they could be used to assemble a reasonably big ship, ocean-going or space-faring. Or, also for example, a networked manipulator capable of pushing buttons and typing. |
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Post by bedinsis on Mar 22, 2023 21:09:49 GMT
Both Annie and Paz looked hesitant about this operation at the start of this chapter, something Annie verbalized weakly and Paz remained quiet about. Now they say that they work together to keep her on the right path. I suspect we will soon see this tested, with Kat suggesting an operation that will cause Annie to cast a sideways glance at Paz before saying that it's a bad idea, something Paz agrees to. The title of this chapter was that Kat goes too far, and so far they don't seem to think that, they are still in essence saying "Kat knows what she's doing.".
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 22, 2023 21:17:24 GMT
After Paz wonders whether that ... thing inside Kat, whatever it is, is a good thing, Annie says that thought's occurred to her too, but she trusts Kat more than she trusts Zimmy, and she'd rather stay with Kat in case she needs to be pointed in the right direction.
Then there's what I see as a slightly ominous interaction. Annie says that she and Paz do a good job of keeping Kat on the right track, and Paz says she's always known that Annie will always be her anchor. Not that Annie and Paz will. There's at least an implication here that Paz doesn't see herself as being with Kat forever and may indeed be considering breaking up with her now. Or maybe not.
But of course then Kat interrupts, her voice coming from a rack-mounted console somewhere nearby. Looks like it's time to go press Ctrl+Alt+Delete.
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 22, 2023 21:22:40 GMT
Both Annie and Paz looked hesitant about this operation at the start of this chapter, something Annie verbalized weakly and Paz remained quiet about. Now they say that they work together to keep her on the right path. I suspect we will soon this tested, with Kat suggesting an operation that will cause Annie to cast a sideways glance at Paz before saying that it's a bad idea, something Paz agrees to. The title of this chapter was that Kat goes too far, and so far they don't seem to think that, they are still in essence saying "Kat knows what she's doing.". My prediction: They get Kat fixed and everything, and then Kat makes the worst pun in history. End of chapter. |
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Post by sosleepy on Mar 22, 2023 21:40:12 GMT
Both Annie and Paz looked hesitant about this operation at the start of this chapter, something Annie verbalized weakly and Paz remained quiet about. Now they say that they work together to keep her on the right path. I suspect we will soon this tested, with Kat suggesting an operation that will cause Annie to cast a sideways glance at Paz before saying that it's a bad idea, something Paz agrees to. The title of this chapter was that Kat goes too far, and so far they don't seem to think that, they are still in essence saying "Kat knows what she's doing.". My prediction: They get Kat fixed and everything, and then Kat makes the worst pun in history. End of chapter. What if she already did and the whole "unexpectedly locked out of body" thing was intended to achieve the classic "friendship bonding adventure". A pun that went too far! |
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 23, 2023 3:03:40 GMT
Both Annie and Paz looked hesitant about this operation at the start of this chapter, something Annie verbalized weakly and Paz remained quiet about. Now they say that they work together to keep her on the right path. I suspect we will soon this tested, with Kat suggesting an operation that will cause Annie to cast a sideways glance at Paz before saying that it's a bad idea, something Paz agrees to. The title of this chapter was that Kat goes too far, and so far they don't seem to think that, they are still in essence saying "Kat knows what she's doing.". Annie and Paz essentially have come to agreement that they both shall keep Kat on a somewhat more straight and narrow path, whether working together or in shifts. Also, Kat just made a potentially life-threatening mistake. Thus, they are likely to insist on much greater caution from this point on, and have an excellent argument for this. That’s probably why Annie does not care about Zimmy’s dark prophecy now: it became redundant. |
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Post by arf on Mar 23, 2023 3:59:13 GMT
Annie and Paz: (conspirational murmurs) Kat (from all around): Hey, I'm right here! Paz: But where is 'here'? Kat: ... OK, you got me there. Annie: Not yet, but we will. We will.* * after all, it's not her blood. |
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Post by Runningflame on Mar 23, 2023 5:13:11 GMT
"Ok now all you have to do is to write a function that causes the safeties to recognize each other properly so they stop feeding into each other. It'll be easy, it's only about 1,000 lines of code you have to write" "You can probably adapt my deadlock prevention code, I think it's somewhere in this file... Sorry, I should've written more comments, but I was too excited to go back and add that stuff... You know how I am with documentation, hehe" |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Mar 23, 2023 11:56:24 GMT
If the next question is a relentlessly cheery "So what did you guys talk about while you were on the way here?" we will know she heard. And then if we're very very lucky she's going to go the full Mr Flibble on them. Kat: You see guys, I was just doing a little test... a little test to see if you'd both gone crazy... AHWOOOOOOOOOO!!! ... Kat: If there's one thing I can't stand... . it's crazy people... |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 23, 2023 12:33:29 GMT
Thank you for reading this chapter about… teen girls chatting about their friend. Those robot arms in the background of panel #4 are not only big enough to pick up and reposition one of these production cells or intensive server farms but they could be used to assemble a reasonably big ship, ocean-going or space-faring. Or, also for example, a networked manipulator capable of pushing buttons and typing. OKAY THAT IS QUITE ENOUGH THANK YOU |
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Post by eyemyself on Mar 23, 2023 16:27:37 GMT
Thank you for reading this chapter about… teen girls chatting about their friend. (rofl) Those robot arms in the background of panel #4 are not only big enough to pick up and reposition one of these production cells or intensive server farms but they could be used to assemble a reasonably big ship, ocean-going or space-faring. Or, also for example, a networked manipulator capable of pushing buttons and typing. Well, she did just refer to her body as her "user account" a few pages ago. Now given that she's still clearly active in the system, despite being "locked out" of her "user account," it seems likely she's using her admin account. Which may explain her cavalier feelings about having her body out of commission. After all, a user account is kinda redundant if you also have god-like access through an admin account. Poor Zimmy. She always gets short shrift. This whole chapter is really reinforcing my suspicion that Kat is/will become Omega and that Kat as Omega is what Zims, Paz, and Annie have seen when they look at her in the ether. What we've seen of Kat's interactions with the ether and how her presence in the ether appears to those with etheric abilities supports this. Her etheric aspect appears as both incomprehensibly complex and threatening to those who can see her through the ether. Meanwhile, what etherically attuned beings perceive as complex mystical mumbo jumbo in etheric spaces looks straightforward and relatively easy to decipher to Kat. If Zimmy is an etheric generator, Kat could be considered an etheric dampener. She has an innate talent for cutting through the junk the court doesn't want complicating their new world. Which tracks with everything we know about their intended purpose for using Omega. |
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Post by storyteller on Mar 23, 2023 17:41:39 GMT
Poor Zimmy. She always gets short shrift. This whole chapter is really reinforcing my suspicion that Kat is/will become Omega and that Kat as Omega is what Zims, Paz, and Annie have seen when they look at her in the ether. I suspect that this is going to end up getting extremely closely to fairly bad stuff. That said, Kat sans Annie ending up on a dark path is something we've heard before, and we have seen. Also I think Kat only started talking to Paz post Divine - partly due to a don't run away from what scares you message she got during. So there is emergency brakes being fitted. But it's going to be a bumpy ride with the cast seeing how close it came as opposed to prevention measures with less drama. (The something is spooking Zimmy so let's just double check there's nothing that might possibly go horribly wrong that could set her unstable powers off. Just in case). But yeah. Zimmy is getting the short end of the stick here. Especially as the more I think about it the more this entire sequence of events reminds ne of how Zimmy and Gamma were met. Not the most pleasant of characters - but not responsible for the damage being done at the science fair - and Zimmy revealing Reynard. The characters have seen this song and dance before. Torn Sea - when Zimmy is saying something is dangerous it typically is. That first introduction - Zimmy does indeed know stuff. I'm presuming that the two still think Divine was merely dreams (because Annie has never gone at Zimmy for punching Anthony) because that would really drive the refusal to listen thing very far |
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Post by Per on Mar 23, 2023 18:23:50 GMT
Paz on 2252: "Everything you do makes it worse! You do not deserve to be her friend!"
Annie: :(
Paz on 2761: "That is something I always knew. That you would do what is best for her."
Annie: "Two-faced b[end-of-chapter symbol]" :)
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 23, 2023 19:20:36 GMT
That said, Kat sans Annie ending up on a dark path is something we've heard before, and we have seen. We have definitely heard it, but have we seen it? |
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Post by storyteller on Mar 23, 2023 20:11:42 GMT
That said, Kat sans Annie ending up on a dark path is something we've heard before, and we have seen. We have definitely heard it, but have we seen it? Seen it referenced multiple times. And the entire thing with the Norns was the question of what happened in the timeline Annie died. ... Which honestly probably needs an asterisk because the other big development that I recall that could have gone that way is Divine. Which again is very much interwoven with the Zimmy terrified of Kat storyline. It wasn't time travel shenanigans but it was Zimmy shenanigans and her and time have a weird dynamic |
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