Jones and Ankou

[drmemory]

Something struck me as I was re-reading some old GK.

Does anyone know why Jones could see Ankou here?  I could swear that Jones was completely unable to have anything to do with the ether!  Yet, she talks to Ankou, who already knows her, and on the next couple of pages the ROTD vampire as well!  It really seemed like Jones could see Ankou as soon as he showed up and stared talking to Morty.

It really seems like she is aware of the ether, psychopomps, what happens when people die (taken into the ether), as well as some of the more non-mainstream stuff like the ROTD.  How can this be?  This all happened before she moved to the court too, so we can't blame it on her picking up the info there really.  Or at least she knew about them but didn't state she was involved with them.  She knew Coyote too, and seems to know what he is/was.

Here is the quote I was looking for - "I have no connection with the ether whatsoever".  Yet she's talked to Coyote, and when she met Morty she clearly already knew about psychomps and the ether and the ROTD.  Maybe her knowing Coyote and chatting with him is the key to her knowledge of this stuff?  I'm not sure it explains why she can see it though.  Of course, we don't know when she met Coyote either.  Before or after he moved to the forest and got involved in the court/forest drama?

We do know psychopomps can let people see them if they have a reason, like when Annie asked the insect one to become visible to Kat.  I just would have thought that this stuff would generally be kept secret, absent a specific reason.  You can see Coyote walking around if he's there and not in disguise, like Renard and Ysengrin, but I've never seen a psychopomp just hanging out or walking down the streets of the court.

This is probably not that important, but I always wonder how things like this work in the GKiverse.  Or is it Annieverse? 

[blahzor]

i assumed Ankou choose to show himself to Jones. By acknowleding her presence. As someone who's been around since the beinging and end of time they would know her. And she would know them due to knowing every second of her existance and being around humanity and their stories.

[Polyhymnia]

I think it may have to do with manifestation vs true embodiment? Coyote can be seen by humans and presumably robots, but most don’t see his etheric form. So Jones can’t enter the ether herself, but she’s not blocked from dealing with Ankou’s manifestation.

[drmemory]

Mar 18, 2023 5:24:07 GMT Polyhymnia said:

I think it may have to do with manifestation vs true embodiment? Coyote can be seen by humans and presumably robots, but most don’t see his etheric form. So Jones can’t enter the ether herself, but she’s not blocked from dealing with Ankou’s manifestation.

Ya... That's pretty much what I'm trying to figure out.  Are psychopomps creatures of the ether, that can manifest physically, or are they physical creatures of the world that can be selectively invisible as desired?

I'm also questioning whether Jones is really being honest when she says she can't sense or interact with the ether.  If we assume that is true, then the questions are all on the psychopomp side.    Which is consistent with Kat's perception of them.  When Annie has asked psychopomps to make themselves visible to Kat, they just popped into our reality.  Also, they physically manifest - Kat punched one in the tummy!

So that's another, related thing - if the psychopomps are really physical creatures with some special powers, are they truly physical?  Like could you bump into one by accident?  Or are they intangible when invisible?  It's tempting to think they can phase in and out of reality, but that doesn't explain why one can be standing there talking to Annie yet invisible to Kat.