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Post by Corvo on Mar 8, 2023 21:57:16 GMT
Uh, reseting the computer won't "unfold" the compressed dimention back into our usual dimention, with possibly catastrophic consequences?
Or is the compressed dimention controled/monitored by... Some other computer?
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Post by Runningflame on Mar 9, 2023 1:45:41 GMT
Of course, any technology mentioned in the comic, Kat will tap into/hack into/duplicate. I identify with this. Anytime I see something cool, one of my first thoughts is, "I want to make one!" |
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Post by drmemory on Mar 9, 2023 5:22:00 GMT
Huh? Am I misremembering or didn't she just learn about this technology a couple days ago? How much time has passed since then (in which Annie didn't try to set things straight with J&J)? I think she already knew about the technology but misunderstood facets of it. Didn't she say something like: it's at such a low level that my stuff can work on top of it?
Paraphrasing. Probably badly. Too tired to do my usual level of research, sorry.
Update: Ok, ok, I felt guilty about posting sloppy work. Here is the info. If I'm reading it right, she already knew about the court's compression technology, but the star ocean initially made her think it shouldn't work, but then she realized it was at such a low level that it still did. Top says it better, clearly. I think most got sidetracked by her Loup comment at the end of the page but I am more interested in the tech stuff, as in RL.  |
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Post by drmemory on Mar 9, 2023 5:25:50 GMT
BTW I still think that Kat's computer area is within the original court. Maybe under a building? Or within one, now that we know she's using the court's dimension compression technology.
Also, I'm worried that her stuff may not be as secret as she thinks. The aliens or scam artists or whatever they are clearly know more about said technology than Kat does, or at least more than she knew back when she hid her computer, which was a while back.
If they don't know about her stuff now, I bet they notice it when she reboots! Let's hope that operation doesn't lead to catastrophic expansion at least!
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Post by blahzor on Mar 9, 2023 6:40:30 GMT
i'll believe that. Rebooting it causes the Court to know someone else is using similar tech
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 9, 2023 8:08:13 GMT
If they don't know about her stuff now, I bet they notice it when she reboots! Let's hope that operation doesn't lead to catastrophic expansion at least! Why would they notice her doing something particular in there, but not the rest? Also, superfluous. We don’t know how Kat accessed it, but Annie and Paz are tracked, and now they were moved in. So it’s not really off the grid anymore. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Mar 9, 2023 9:50:05 GMT
This girl built Satisfactory IRL
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 9, 2023 15:05:29 GMT
The space-warping "guest user entrance portal" seems to have deposited Annie and Paz on the ground, in a large space full of fabrication machinery with conveyor belts and robot arms, dotted with what look like cell phone towers. Taller buildings exist farther away, and the ceiling appears to be either covered with light panels or composed of glass skylights. Kat says she's making use of the Court's dimension-compressing technology (responsible for making the Court much larger than the space it seems to take up in the outside world) to "keep everything totally safe." Annie and Paz are just looking around in amazement.
Now, "keep everything totally safe?" This makes me suspicious. What's "everything," and what precisely is it being kept safe from? What are the dangers that Kat is glossing over here? And how safe is "safe," anyway?
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 9, 2023 15:27:47 GMT
Huh? Am I misremembering or didn't she just learn about this technology a couple days ago? How much time has passed since then (in which Annie didn't try to set things straight with J&J)? That was chapter 86 if I recall. I think it's been more then a few days, but it's hard to say. Either way, Kat can just materialize things in a way that would make Star Fleet blush, so I imagine her production time is insanely short. The whole "where the heck did they get all that material and components" issue still exists, but to be fair sourcing, ordering, shipping and receiving materials is very hard to show in a comic. You're right, it was in chapter 86 that she learned about it, but in chapter 87, shortly before Annie met with Jack, Kat still had only a vague idea of how this technology worked. So she must have analyzed it, reverse-engineered it, and used it to hide her computer all within the timespan between that strange talk with Zimmy and now.
Now, "keep everything totally safe?" This makes me suspicious. What's "everything," and what precisely is it being kept safe from? What are the dangers that Kat is glossing over here? And how safe is "safe," anyway? Yes, this part should make every engineer among the readers cringe. There is no perfect safety. Never. |
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Post by blahzor on Mar 9, 2023 21:08:24 GMT
That was chapter 86 if I recall. I think it's been more then a few days, but it's hard to say. Either way, Kat can just materialize things in a way that would make Star Fleet blush, so I imagine her production time is insanely short. The whole "where the heck did they get all that material and components" issue still exists, but to be fair sourcing, ordering, shipping and receiving materials is very hard to show in a comic. You're right, it was in chapter 86 that she learned about it, but in chapter 87, shortly before Annie met with Jack, Kat still had only a vague idea of how this technology worked. So she must have analyzed it, reverse-engineered it, and used it to hide her computer all within the timespan between that strange talk with Zimmy and now. Now, "keep everything totally safe?" This makes me suspicious. What's "everything," and what precisely is it being kept safe from? What are the dangers that Kat is glossing over here? And how safe is "safe," anyway? Yes, this part should make every engineer among the readers cringe. There is no perfect safety. Never. it might have been a mistake to let Kat know she can do something then crete her own physics on top of it. heh |
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Post by madjack on Mar 9, 2023 21:59:11 GMT
Now, "keep everything totally safe?" This makes me suspicious. What's "everything," and what precisely is it being kept safe from? What are the dangers that Kat is glossing over here? And how safe is "safe," anyway? Yes, this part should make every engineer among the readers cringe. There is no perfect safety. Never. She probably means safe from intrusion by others, not safe for others. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 9, 2023 23:26:03 GMT
It occurs to me that Kat is probably so good natured and impressed with her own ingenuity that she wouldn't intentionally put lethal security in her computer's storage area. That leaves nonlethal security measures such as barriers, mazes, confinement, unrequested relocation (potentially to comically inconvenient places), and possibly more. It also leaves situations Kat didn't think of. Plot armor will protect from the latter but not the former. Because they arrived here I guess Kat anticipated maybe having guests here to build things at some point but she probably didn't think she'd be incapacitated when people were using it. Gotta admit I expected a game area already because I figured that would be a function Kat would be more likely to share.
It also occurs to me that the computer has Diego's arrow as a component therefore Kat's TOS adhered to Antimony and Paz when they consented to guest access. That means data harvesting and etheric microtransactions are possible, though I'm pretty sure Kat wouldn't think in those directions. Probably. Even if it does they can argue before an arbiter that Kat transported them without their informed consent so they shouldn't have to watch hundreds of hours of ads when they enter the ether after they die in recompense for whatever they interacted with... though Alistair's case suggests uninformed consent is fine so maybe implied uninformed consent is also fine, and the arrow can break rules anyway...
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Post by arf on Mar 10, 2023 2:11:10 GMT
Wildspec: Kat being Omega has been suggested before. It's just occurred to me that that Omega/Kat went off the rails at about the time Annie fell into the Annan Waters. Coincidence?
I also wonder whether, having given her some breadcrumbs to follow, the Court is sitting back and letting her 'grow' their solution to the stars*. That would make Kat/Omega the Court's answer to the etheric Seed Bismuth, but this is wildspec, so why not be wild?
* Then again, where did Lindsey and Bud come from?
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Post by drmemory on Mar 10, 2023 2:18:37 GMT
If they don't know about her stuff now, I bet they notice it when she reboots! Let's hope that operation doesn't lead to catastrophic expansion at least! Why would they notice her doing something particular in there, but not the rest? Also, superfluous. We don’t know how Kat accessed it, but Annie and Paz are tracked, and now they were moved in. So it’s not really off the grid anymore. I'm thinking power surge. Even if she's using golem-esque power sources for the NP, as I suspect, the room they are in now looks like it contains a lot of more traditional equipment. If they shut it all down and then power it up again, that seems likely to be more noticeable than steady state operations. Also, it may cause a signature more noticeable to the star ocean scammers... |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 10, 2023 15:11:32 GMT
Yes, this part should make every engineer among the readers cringe. There is no perfect safety. Never.
She probably means safe from intrusion by others, not safe for others. My answer remains the same. Building a system perfectly safe from intrusion is equally impossible. |
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 19, 2023 9:44:05 GMT
Also, bonus cookies to madjack
 and whoever made this one:  |
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Post by madjack on Mar 20, 2023 1:06:50 GMT
Ehhhh... Kat hasn't caused anything like the resonance cascade. Yet. |
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