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Post by madjack on Feb 24, 2023 13:12:06 GMT
also Kat is basically Rey before the Loup body destruction. His body was perfectly find while he was elsewhere alive and well. Only because Coyote went out of his way to make sure of it, though. |
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Post by Corvo on Feb 24, 2023 13:42:45 GMT
Just realized, but Kat probably doesn't even know the activator exploded. I wonder how she'll react to that.
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Post by blahzor on Feb 24, 2023 14:15:25 GMT
also Kat is basically Rey before the Loup body destruction. His body was perfectly find while he was elsewhere alive and well. Only because Coyote went out of his way to make sure of it, though. and she did it on accidental not carrying the 1 she's just that powerful |
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Post by silicondream on Feb 24, 2023 14:59:27 GMT
Next step: Annie goes astral to find Kat within the machine, and then a bunch of House Foley kids show up, and there's a giant party in the ether while a grumbling Paz tends thirty comatose bodies. Hm... Was that boombox already there? Kat can now manifest speakers in the material world at will! That alone allows for all kinds of zany accidental murders. Teleporting a speaker fifty feet above Zimmy's head, dropping a high-voltage one into the water while she's taking her monthly bath... |
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 24, 2023 15:19:47 GMT
I guess confusion is an improvement over panic.
Now that they know they don’t know what to do about this, they may proceed to do what they know.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 24, 2023 15:21:57 GMT
Good subwoofers. Exciting pyrotechnics. Everyone definitely felt the beat drop. Could've really used some backups though.
4/5. Would recommend.
How much of what's happened is Kat aware of? Does she know her body is crumbled on the ground?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2023 16:12:03 GMT
Today's page looks like that was half-right, but Kat asking them not to touch her real body means it's probably an anchor to life for her and the connection to the computer system is just a projection. Dunno if "projection" is the word I'd choose but I agree with what you're saying. Maybe this was what was supposed to happen, maybe Kat put a consciousness transfer protocol in place in case of katastrophic injury, but it sure didn't seem like she was planning to leave her body behind permanently. Kat didn't really need help with this and I think it would be cruel to sucker Antimony and Paz into helping under false pretenses. And I still want to know if Kat's breathing. If no, her brain (potentially still a critical component in what's going on) should be running low on oxygen around now. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 24, 2023 16:35:07 GMT
Haha, am I the only one who got major flashbacks to online conferences? Maybe next page Kat even manages to turn the camera on! Well, "kinda worked" seems accurate. Kat was expecting to have direct mental access to her computer; she just didn't anticipate being unable to operate it and her own body simultaneously. Probably a bandwidth issue. These things happen during piecemeal upgrades, you know? I can see why she's not very worried, though; Kat's surrounded by people who treat their bodies as temporary vehicles. Never mind the New People, Annie astrally projects all the time. Rey hops into other bodies, and Coyote and Loup build new bodies to inhabit. House Foley have all switched bodies. Kat's the odd one out, really--although she already managed to project her consciousness inside Diego's arrow during the Jeanne fight. So the pilot study's already complete! Great thought! Though let's not forget that "the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body". It was shown again and again that is is at least partially true in the Gunnerverse (it also makes sense, honestly, of course a different body makes the way one experiences the world different as well). So I'm curious how this new, well, body, will influence Kat's mind. Today's page looks like that was half-right, but Kat asking them not to touch her real body means it's probably an anchor to life for her and the connection to the computer system is just a projection. Dunno if "projection" is the word I'd choose but I agree with what you're saying. Maybe this was what was supposed to happen, maybe Kat put a consciousness transfer protocol in place in case of katastrophic injury, but it sure didn't seem like she was planning to leave her body behind permanently. Kat didn't really need help with this and I think it would be cruel to sucker Antimony and Paz into helping under false pretenses. And I still want to know if Kat's breathing. If no, her brain (potentially still a critical component in what's going on) should be running low on oxygen around now. Agree. They should really check this. "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you..."For real now... What the hell IS she now? Did she turn her consciousness into program code? If so the Court can literally copy her and make the copy serve them with all it's knowledge. Or hijack her body via that implant. Both possibilities would kinda explain Kat killing Zimmy. I don't think her consciousness was changed or put into another place. She's just connected to all the machines in her vicinity now, possibly causing an overload, so her body went on standby. |
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Post by rabbit on Feb 24, 2023 16:36:43 GMT
So I guess now when Kat wants to communicate with her friends, she uses
...tweeter?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 24, 2023 17:27:56 GMT
Also: Is that dark line the scalpel on the floor between Antimony's left hand and the speaker?
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 24, 2023 17:38:45 GMT
Paz has shown so many varying facial expression in this chapter. She has looked surprised at the prospect of Kat killing Zimmy, she has been lovey-dovey with Kat, she has been chocked at the idea of Kat experimenting in cybernetics, she has given a... hard to decipher expression which I interpreted as unspoken hostility towards Annie, she has fell a tear when the operation was complete, she has been joyous at Annie's surgical work, she has been concerned/chocked at Kat being down for the counting and now she has also been angry. |
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Post by lonestarf1 on Feb 24, 2023 18:20:41 GMT
hey think of the upside. Kat materalized a speaker out of no where to talk to them Well her computer does do that. She showed it off before. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2143 |
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Post by maxptc on Feb 24, 2023 18:40:19 GMT
Paz has shown so many varying facial expression in this chapter. She has looked surprised at the prospect of Kat killing Zimmy, she has been lovey-dovey with Kat, she has been chocked at the idea of Kat experimenting in cybernetics, she has given a... hard to decipher expression which I interpreted as unspoken hostility towards Annie, she has fell a tear when the operation was complete, she has been joyous at Annie's surgical work, she has been concerned/chocked at Kat being down for the counting and now she has also been angry. And we all know teenage girls in a comic showing more then two emotions and shifting emotions rapidly can only mean one thing. Zimmyverse. |
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Post by drmemory on Feb 24, 2023 19:02:54 GMT
I bet Kat knew this was a possible way things could go, and that Paz will be quite pissed when this is revealed!
Also, no more smoochies for the girlfriend! At least until Kat inhabits a new android body or finds a way back into her own meatsack.
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Post by foxurus on Feb 24, 2023 20:15:40 GMT
I can't remember, was the appearance of the eldest Norn a representation of what Kat expected to look like when she was older, or what she would actually look like?
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 24, 2023 21:26:48 GMT
I love that as soon as Annie and Paz realize that Kat is (somehow) okay, they jump straight from scared to angry. Also: Is that dark line the scalpel on the floor between Antimony's left hand and the speaker? That's what I figured, and it's making me nervous. With how distracted everybody is right now, someone's bound to kneel on it by accident. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 24, 2023 23:42:08 GMT
I can't remember, was the appearance of the eldest Norn a representation of what Kat expected to look like when she was older, or what she would actually look like? Kat expressed the belief that the eldest Norn looked like her future self would look like, but the Norns neither confirmed nor denied this. |
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Post by basser on Feb 25, 2023 0:32:34 GMT
Well we know she's not stuck like this permanently cause the Norns said she was a little younger than usual, not a little more flesh than usual. |
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Post by maxptc on Feb 25, 2023 0:53:03 GMT
Well we know she's not stuck like this permanently cause the Norns said she was a little younger than usual, not a little more flesh than usual. Not true, maybe in most timelines she just doesn't typically get to this stage until later in life. |
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Post by blahzor on Feb 25, 2023 3:37:52 GMT
hey think of the upside. Kat materalized a speaker out of no where to talk to them Well her computer does do that. She showed it off before. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2143i know but she is the computer now. so she still has the function while not in her body |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 25, 2023 6:04:43 GMT
By The Way, there should be some pages coming up with Kat experiencing whatever state of existence she's currently in. I predict they will make excellent targets of opportunity for editing.
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Post by csj on Feb 25, 2023 6:38:30 GMT
I can't remember, was the appearance of the eldest Norn a representation of what Kat expected to look like when she was older, or what she would actually look like? Kat expressed the belief that the eldest Norn looked like her future self would look like, but the Norns neither confirmed nor denied this. They didn't say which future self >:3 |
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Post by silicondream on Feb 25, 2023 10:17:37 GMT
Well we know she's not stuck like this permanently cause the Norns said she was a little younger than usual, not a little more flesh than usual. Just because they said the one doesn't mean they weren't thinking the other. "Normally you're about four centuries older, embodied within a dented titanium warframe with "EXTERMINATRIX" scrawled across it in the blood of your victims, and cursing us for not warning you that rampancy was a real thing before you eradicated the biosphere. You look cute this way too though!" |
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Post by Gemminie on Feb 27, 2023 16:56:38 GMT
Annie's just grabbed a scalpel and is presumably going for Kat's neck to get that smoking chip out of there, but suddenly a voice comes from somewhere telling her and Paz to stop. They look around as the voice asks for a response, and Paz calls Kat's name. Kat says she can't see, and Annie asks where she is, but there's a click, and more talking. But no answers, which leads both Paz and Annie to frown in frustration. Kat says she needs to find a microphone, because she still can't hear them. There's a beep. Frustrated Annie and Paz both shout Kat's name, and Kat says she can hear them now. We, Paz, and Annie then all realize that Kat's voice is coming from a nearby speaker, while Kat's body lies on the floor, still at least unconscious; we don't know whether she's dead or alive there. Kat says that "it kinda worked."
From Kat's point of view, she's got no eyes or ears in the room where this all happened at first. I don't know why she tells Paz and Annie to stop and not do anything, unless she's either imagining what they would do next in this situation or unless she's got other forms of data input that suggest they're about to do something she doesn't want them to do. I'm guessing that the "click" is when she accesses some sort of camera so she can see, and the "beep" is when she gains access to some sort of microphone so she can hear.
What does Kat mean by "it kinda worked?" Clearly she's got access to at least some of the nearby technology. Is her consciousness still inside her brain, and is she running things from there via the chip? Or is her consciousness in her computer now? Is her body alive, brain-dead, or all-dead? It's possible that her brain's fully conscious, but her body's catatonic, because her brain's trying to deal with all the new input/output it's got. At the other extreme, it's also possible that her body is dead, and her consciousness is now housed in an electronic form somehow. Or maybe it's somewhere in between those extremes somehow. I guess we'll have to wait to find out ...
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Post by blahzor on Feb 27, 2023 20:56:34 GMT
the thing is Kat doesn't even need the mic, she propbably materalize b/c they heard her before she "found" one.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 28, 2023 12:34:36 GMT
the thing is Kat doesn't even need the mic, she propbably materalize b/c they heard her before she "found" one. Kat needed the microphone so she could hear the others. |
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Post by yellowb on Feb 28, 2023 13:30:10 GMT
the thing is Kat doesn't even need the mic, she propbably materalize b/c they heard her before she "found" one. Kat needed the microphone so she could hear the others. Wouldn't she then need headphones instead? |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 1, 2023 11:12:44 GMT
Kat needed the microphone so she could hear the others. Wouldn't she then need headphones instead? No, she's inside the machine(s), so she needs a device for sound input to hear what is spoken in the room. |
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