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Post by arf on Feb 4, 2023 8:28:16 GMT
I think the general concensus is that this isn't going to end well. But how not well? |
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Post by blahzor on Feb 4, 2023 10:52:25 GMT
what if her robogoddess form is just a body she build she can work remotely that houses her computer. installing the chip makes them one and the same and she can be in 2 places at once expanding on this is Kat other body built is just liek the NP except instead of transfering her mind to it she's linking up to it with this chip instead and since it's a object she's getting ownership contract with it. |
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 4, 2023 15:18:13 GMT
Installing into yourself something untested and without big red “STOP” button. While being the only one who knows how it works at all.
By having two schoolgirls without actual hands-on surgeon experience perform neurosurgery on you.
Sounds like the standards of reliable and safe practice are upheld through the entire framework, all right.
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Post by laaaa on Feb 4, 2023 15:26:52 GMT
If Paz has been chipping lab animals then she probably knows what to do.
But, seriously, why would ANYONE EVER chip themselves is beyond me. That's like, the first step to a weird dystopian totalitarian steampunk society, I thought everyone knew that?!?!?!?!? Don't do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 4, 2023 17:37:57 GMT
If Paz has been chipping lab animals then she probably knows what to do. But, seriously, why would ANYONE EVER chip themselves is beyond me. That's like, the first step to a weird dystopian totalitarian steampunk society, I thought everyone knew that?!?!?!?!? Don't do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I mean, like...at this point, I can tell that's obviously where the comic's going, but there isn't REALLY a reason inserting a computer chip into the back of one's neck should be somehow Inherently Disastrous. It's just technology, and we use technology inside our bodies all the time. Sure, one could probably use it for nefarious reasons, but one could also use it for beneficial reasons, just like anything else. Brain-Computer Interfaces are already super important to disabled people, for rather obvious reasons! And able-bodied people still often crave the kind of convenient and immediate control over digital tech that a sci-fi-like implanted chip could give them, not to mention the potential usefulness of something that can't be easily stolen or lost. There's nothing about implanted chips that say they have to be used for totalitarian government surveillance. Like, if Kat just made this so she could connect to her Not-Magic Computer better, there's no damn reason it should be any more ominous than her previous upgrades to the Not-Magic Computer.
The fact that Kat is asking Annie and Paz to do this instead of Tony, though, is a pretty damn huge red flag no matter which way you look at it. Oh well.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Feb 4, 2023 17:50:50 GMT
I mean, like...at this point, I can tell that's obviously where the comic's going, but there isn't REALLY a reason inserting a computer chip into the back of one's neck should be somehow Inherently Disastrous. It's just technology, and we use technology inside our bodies all the time. I think the big red flag is that it's implied to be a new technology, and thus she is experimenting on herself. And, I suppose, that it's going to require a surgical scalpel to do it which makes it a procedure. This is clearly not something trivial, like a vet chipping a dog or cat. |
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Post by Angry Individual on Feb 4, 2023 19:28:44 GMT
You know the last time Kat asked Paz for help with a science thing, it didn't end well. Well, I'm sure this time there will be less problems since Annie is there! Probably. |
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Post by arf on Feb 5, 2023 3:09:22 GMT
No Kats were harmed in the production of this chapter.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 5, 2023 4:39:26 GMT
I'm looking forward to some hijinks with Kat learning to use a new interface. Gesticulate while telling intense story, accidentally eBay a vintage doorbell from Taipei. Roll eyes at Renard, suddenly the Donlan family is "all in" on Dogecoin. Wake up one morning, bedroom is full of waffle irons. Try to order take-out, get nasty email about not accepting Dogecoin.
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Post by drmemory on Feb 5, 2023 6:47:02 GMT
So instead of having one of the NP, or Robot, or one of the golems, or Albert, or Juliette, or even Tony, do this, she's asking two people that don't really get along with each other all that well to perform minor surgery on her. Maybe minor. This part doesn't seem like a Zimmy scenario, or at least not one we've seen before, but it surely feels off! I suppose it's possible that she thinks a human needs to do this, but it still seems weird. Maybe she thinks it'll force Paz and Annie to cooperate, and thinks that will force them to get along better? That's a pretty forest-esque plan! It seems more likely that Annie and Paz will disagree about things, and argue, and whoever ends up implanting the chip will end up getting the blame when things don't work out. One good thing - at least the chip isn't glowing green.  Still doesn't make it safe - this is obviously some kind of interface or communications device, and the arrow is connected to her computer...
On the bright side, I think we're about to see what Tom thinks cyberspace looks like!
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Post by blahzor on Feb 5, 2023 8:40:24 GMT
So instead of having one of the NP, or Robot, or one of the golems, or Albert, or Juliette, or even Tony, do this, she's asking two people that don't really get along with each other all that well to perform minor surgery on her. Maybe minor. This part doesn't seem like a Zimmy scenario, or at least not one we've seen before, but it surely feels off! I suppose it's possible that she thinks a human needs to do this, but it still seems weird. Maybe she thinks it'll force Paz and Annie to cooperate, and thinks that will force them to get along better? That's a pretty forest-esque plan! It seems more likely that Annie and Paz will disagree about things, and argue, and whoever ends up implanting the chip will end up getting the blame when things don't work out. One good thing - at least the chip isn't glowing green. Still doesn't make it safe - this is obviously some kind of interface or communications device, and the arrow is connected to her computer... On the bright side, I think we're about to see what Tom thinks cyberspace looks like!
Did she ever analyze the lake water? It's giving me lake water vibes |
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Post by silicondream on Feb 5, 2023 20:25:41 GMT
But, seriously, why would ANYONE EVER chip themselves is beyond me. That's like, the first step to a weird dystopian totalitarian steampunk society, I mean, they're in a weird dystopian totalitarian society that laces food with surveillance devices already. Kat's already managed to cloak her lab, computer and illicit activities from the Court regardless, so chipping herself probably isn't going to make her more trackable. I think the big red flag is that it's implied to be a new technology, and thus she is experimenting on herself. It's not that new for Kat, though. She and her team designed and created Tony's prosthetic hand and Robot's CPU-driven bio-body, both of which would require neural interfaces of some sort. Well, a scalpel's just what you use when you need an incision slightly bigger than a lance or needle puncture. They're used for both major and minor procedures. If the chip has to be physically plugged into her spinal cord, then yeah, Kat'd be crazy to let Paz and Annie do it. But if it's just going in subcutaneously, and then connecting to her nervous system via short-distance transmissions like the Focuses from the Horizon series, that's a different story. More like a moderately difficult body piercing. Put it this way: in a world where gifted teenagers exorcise killer ghosts, bargain with capricious beast-gods and fight swarms of giant carnivorous insects with mind control powers, this is not medically very risky by comparison. Ominous foreshadowing and potential Omega contamination or Court brain-hacks are another matter, of course. |
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Post by drmemory on Feb 6, 2023 0:08:53 GMT
It makes me extra-nervous that she wants this in her neck. The only reason for that, as far as I can see, is so it can be attached to her spinal cord, so it can have a direct path to her brain. This really seems double plus ungood!
Aside from whoever ends up going along with this terrible plan getting the blame when it inevitably goes wrong, they will ALSO get a healthy helping of guilt.
At first I was thinking we weren't seeing what she was going to do to go "too far" yet, but now I'm not so sure...
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Post by Sky Schemer on Feb 7, 2023 4:48:41 GMT
I think the big red flag is that it's implied to be a new technology, and thus she is experimenting on herself. It's not that new for Kat, though. She and her team designed and created Tony's prosthetic hand and Robot's CPU-driven bio-body, both of which would require neural interfaces of some sort. Well, a scalpel's just what you use when you need an incision slightly bigger than a lance or needle puncture. They're used for both major and minor procedures. I am pretty sure the operative word (ha!) in both "major procedure" and "minor procedure" is "procedure". Anything involving a scalpel does not belong in "hey, gang, can you do this thing for me?" territory. If you can't see the difference between Kat soloing a new chip in her neck and a team that designed and created a robotic hand and bio-engineered bodies--with "team" implying there was input from multiple people on the development of the technology--then I have nothing else for you. |
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Still doesn't make it safe - this is obviously some kind of interface or communications device, and the arrow is connected to her computer...
