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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 30, 2023 8:06:35 GMT
Kat is sure that she won't kill anyone even on accident. I mean, it's crazy and hateful to even think that no matter what powers you've got. There's absolutely no reason to take precautions. |
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Post by philman on Jan 30, 2023 8:28:08 GMT
Don't worry I won't kill anyone, I don't have any control over this robot cult at all, they all have free will and therefore I cannot be held responsible for their actions.
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Post by worldsong on Jan 30, 2023 8:34:49 GMT
Maybe she hates you because she knows you're going to kill her without even taking the possibility seriously until it's too late.
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Post by heranje on Jan 30, 2023 8:41:25 GMT
In which Katerina continues to exhibit her fatal flaw of not taking the possible repercussions of her activities seriously.
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 30, 2023 9:04:23 GMT
Or Annie was that incoherent. Or Kat tries to keep Paz out of the crazy mess (or at least the thickest part).
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Post by silicondream on Jan 30, 2023 9:07:11 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that she pulled Annie out of a coma or that visiting Zimmingham let the Seraphs give Kat critical inspiration for her biotech. It feels like Kat's resenting her for one or two nasty conversations in their tweens, and seems a bit out of character given how Kat's established a good relationship with lots of other people she used to dislike or distrust (Winsbury, Tony, Juliet and Shell, etc.)
I hope we get a clearer picture of what's causing her personality shift. With Jack and Jenny most of us put it down to Zimmingham's influence, but that wouldn't be affecting Kat at this distance...would it?
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jan 30, 2023 9:20:29 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that she pulled Annie out of a coma... Kat wouldn't remember that, she was made to think it was a dream. Kat's just another product of Zimmy's machinations. Can't have anyone out there thinking she's a nice person, y'know? |
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Post by silicondream on Jan 30, 2023 9:30:37 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that she pulled Annie out of a coma... Kat wouldn't remember that, she was made to think it was a dream. Oh, right. That's a bit more understandable, then. |
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Post by shadow3 on Jan 30, 2023 9:41:57 GMT
KAT: "Annie, I'm not going to kill anyone."
OMEGA: "Exterminate! Exterminate!"
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Post by blahzor on Jan 30, 2023 9:55:09 GMT
*Kat hours later* "... Yet"
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Post by blahzor on Jan 30, 2023 9:57:55 GMT
Kat: She really hates me. Almost like all this time she thought and knew I was going to kill her
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Post by rafk on Jan 30, 2023 11:11:17 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that she pulled Annie out of a coma... Kat wouldn't remember that, she was made to think it was a dream. Kat's just another product of Zimmy's machinations. Can't have anyone out there thinking she's a nice person, y'know? Yep. Self-fulfilling prophecy, full steam ahead! Even though there's no way Kat will CONSCIOUSLY kill Zimmy no matter how much she's been caused (by Zimmy) to disrespect Zimmy. The question is more whether this is a metaphorical death; a real accidental death (like the ending of the Red Dwarf episode Cassandra, where a character declares the prophecied death of Cassandra was a lie, they won't kill Cassandra, and walk out, accidentally setting off a freak chain reaction of events that does in fact kill Cassandra); a lie to cause something else to happen; the truth but justified (in self defence or defence of Annie or Paz); or death caused by her creations, the robot cult, despite her lack of knowledge of them. |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Jan 30, 2023 11:31:43 GMT
Ah yes, Chekov's Death.
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Post by Lightice on Jan 30, 2023 12:05:28 GMT
So, is Kat saying,
"I am not going to kill anyone", or
"I am not going to kill anyone"?
The emphasis is important.
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Post by arf on Jan 30, 2023 12:06:19 GMT
Paz: who is this girl?
Kat: ... remember from that boat trip?
Paz: Oh! The one who spiked the party drinks with something *really* trippy?
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Post by kefka on Jan 30, 2023 12:09:28 GMT
How could anyone hate Kat? Paz, on the other hand...
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 30, 2023 12:12:47 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that Kat tells this to Paz. While they… apparently are eating salad outdoors (or at least they were, before Annie barged in). Why would she digress into description of ill-understood incidents to answer a simple question? I hope we get a clearer picture of what's causing her personality shift. What personality shift? With Jack and Jenny most of us put it down to Zimmingham's influence, but that wouldn't be affecting Kat at this distance...would it? Well… if Annie is still in Zimmy’s daydream, Kat is likely to be but another figment of their collective imagination. |
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Post by storyteller on Jan 30, 2023 12:56:04 GMT
It feels like Kat's resenting her for one or two nasty conversations in their tweens, and seems a bit out of character given how Kat's established a good relationship with lots of other people she used to dislike or distrust (Winsbury, Tony, Juliet and Shell, etc.) I hope we get a clearer picture of what's causing her personality shift. With Jack and Jenny most of us put it down to Zimmingham's influence, but that wouldn't be affecting Kat at this distance...would it? Importantly, Zimmy never approached Kat herself about the whole eventually killing her thing. One part may just be her understanding of her own powers -seeing that future as unchangeable. Second part - not seeing Kat Belive or take her seriously. So it could be Zimmyham influence. Kat wouldn't remember that, she was made to think it was a dream. Oh, right. That's a bit more understandable, then. That said, Kat was present for Zimmy revealing Reynard. And I somewhat suspect that Annie would have told the ending of Jack Springheel part 2. Even with Kat not thinking of Divine, she's seen or has been on the sidelines to events where Zimmy was part of things enough to know it's not as simple as Zimmy being crazy. Important as well is that Zimmy was the one to step in and basically end the argument between Paz and the Annies. Which Kat did find out about as I recall Zimmy doesn't always show up but even when it's just Annie really interacting with her (which given what we now know wasn't an accident) Kat's in position to find out about the events second hand. |
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Post by storyteller on Jan 30, 2023 12:59:58 GMT
Bit disappointing that Kat IDs Zimmy as "that crazy girl," without mentioning that Kat tells this to Paz. Yeah I think this is Zimmyham - Paz very well knows who Zimmy is. Since Zimmy I think weaponized her reputation to get the Annies out of that argument with Paz. |
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Post by gpvos on Jan 30, 2023 13:45:25 GMT
Next page: Kat tweaks a dial of the Omega device just to try something out, which inadvertently kills Zimmy without Kat noticing.
For a medium, Annie really could work on her communication skills.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 30, 2023 13:52:01 GMT
Two thoughts: 1. Has Paz' chin become more pointed? 2. Paz has met Zimmy more than once. Also, given all the adventures Kat and Annie had that involved Zimmy, and Zimmy was the one who combined the two Annies into one, it is very weird that Paz has to ask who Zimmy is. Did Kat never tell her own girlfriend about all these things?
Yes, I'm also wondering if this is the first time a Zimmy illusion/influence has not been resolved before the end of a chapter.
EDIT: Hm, Annie's chin also looks more pointed on this page.
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Post by Gemminie on Jan 30, 2023 14:57:06 GMT
Continuing her "Zimmy said I'm gonna do WHAT?" from the previous page, Kat quite seriously says she's not planning to kill anybody, then Paz asks who Zimmy even is. Kat reminds her of the boat trip and says that Zimmy is crazy and hates her for some reason Kat doesn't understand. We see Annie looking on worriedly in the only frame in which she appears on this page. Paz's hair is a bit askew, suggesting a sudden head movement, as she asks how anyone could hate Kat, who then moves in close for a joyful moment as she agrees that no one could possibly have any reason to hate her.
Kat is not taking this seriously, and Annie sees that, but where is this going? Kat will supposedly Go Too Far at some point here.
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Post by maxptc on Jan 30, 2023 14:57:49 GMT
Ah yes, having to be reminded of someone you have met. That has never happened in the real world, super unrealistic. Must be a Zimmy illusion. That or conformation bias.
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 30, 2023 15:17:12 GMT
Yes, and Zimmy is… memorable — but she does not wear a name tag and Annie does not brandish her portrait. Also, ability to remember names may vary greatly and in strange ways. Also, given all the adventures Kat and Annie had that involved Zimmy, and Zimmy was the one who combined the two Annies into one, it is very weird that Paz has to ask who Zimmy is. Did Kat never tell her own girlfriend about all these things? It’s quite possible that not only they had other subjects to chat about, but Kat deliberately avoids any “adventures you missed” type recaps unless necessary. Zimmyngham is very much on the table, but there’s no evidence within snowball-throwing range of “conclusive”. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 30, 2023 15:52:12 GMT
They're laughing! Those diabolical maniacs!
It is strange Paz wouldn't know who Zimmy is, but she may merely not remember/know what her name was. "That kid from Chester" may be all she remembers Zimmy as.
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Post by mitten on Jan 30, 2023 16:31:54 GMT
This is not the reaction I was expecting. Now, of course Kat wouldn't deliberately try to kill Zimmy, but I did expect her to at least pause to consider the possibility that one of her experiments might in some way cause Zimmy accidental harm once Annie has pointed out there's a risk of that.
Not sure if I believe this is Zimmingham. It's possible, I suppose. Either way, from Annie's and the reader's pov the story is taking on that certain nightmarish quality with shades of Cassandra, where you're trying to prevent a bad thing from happening and people either misunderstand or don't take it seriously.
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Post by maxptc on Jan 30, 2023 16:55:59 GMT
Either way, from Annie's and the reader's pov the story is taking on that certain nightmarish quality with shades of Cassandra, where you're trying to prevent a bad thing from happening and people either misunderstand or don't take it seriously. Yeah im getting this vibe as well. I'm also operating under the assumption that by trying to warn people and prevent it, Annie is actually making the bad thing happen. |
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Post by mitten on Jan 30, 2023 17:13:24 GMT
Either way, from Annie's and the reader's pov the story is taking on that certain nightmarish quality with shades of Cassandra, where you're trying to prevent a bad thing from happening and people either misunderstand or don't take it seriously. Yeah im getting this vibe as well. I'm also operating under the assumption that by trying to warn people and prevent it, Annie is actually making the bad thing happen. Yes, I'd feel very sorry for Annie if this is the case, but it definitely seems like one possible way the story could go. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 31, 2023 2:58:27 GMT
Well, crud. Unless I missed it when reading this thread, none of us noticed that the word bubble colors for Kat and Paz were switched in panels 1-2. That incudes me, I had to read it in the comments on the page. Hat-tip to "petermobeter" for being first to notice, I guess.
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Post by blahzor on Jan 31, 2023 7:28:52 GMT
Yes, and Zimmy is… memorable — but she does not wear a name tag and Annie does not brandish her portrait. Also, ability to remember names may vary greatly and in strange ways. Also, given all the adventures Kat and Annie had that involved Zimmy, and Zimmy was the one who combined the two Annies into one, it is very weird that Paz has to ask who Zimmy is. Did Kat never tell her own girlfriend about all these things? It’s quite possible that not only they had other subjects to chat about, but Kat deliberately avoids any “adventures you missed” type recaps unless necessary. Zimmyngham is very much on the table, but there’s no evidence within snowball-throwing range of “conclusive”. Or shorten any story that involves Annie |
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