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Post by Timberwere on Nov 23, 2022 8:09:20 GMT
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Post by noone3 on Nov 23, 2022 8:13:03 GMT
... the Michael Jackson knife.
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Post by Timberwere on Nov 23, 2022 8:16:44 GMT
Note how the tooth itself is cackling Coyote's 'hehehe'. He/it is tickled pink by Annie's "... No."
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Post by philman on Nov 23, 2022 8:20:27 GMT
Ah, che long talked about Chekov's sword reappears in the flesh (my headcanon is that the handle literally feels like Coyote's flesh too, which makes it even more icky)
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Post by arf on Nov 23, 2022 8:54:50 GMT
I'm not sure 'reason' is how Loup is feeling his way through this.
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Post by speedwell on Nov 23, 2022 9:38:24 GMT
"That's not a knife. THIS is a knife."
Man, that is one serious clip-point recurve blade, nearly going for a kukri look. And about six sizes too large for her in length and handle width - it's just too big to even be a knife, as such. And the guard is nearly useless; it is not meant for parrying as a blow would be largely deflected down toward the wielder. Of course it's really Etheric power taking a strongly suggestive form and not, strictly speaking, a blade at all except in the sense that it is supremely efficient at severing things.
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Post by ohthatone on Nov 23, 2022 12:11:31 GMT
Well! now that THAT option is out of the way...
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Post by arf on Nov 23, 2022 12:20:44 GMT
Annie: OK. If not Loup, can the knife be reasoned with?
Rey: ...
Knife: hehehe
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Post by todd on Nov 23, 2022 12:36:44 GMT
Another problem, besides Loup's irrational tone, is that from his perspective, he can't afford to call off his attack on the Court. The Court's goals are a threat to the etheric world; from Loup's perspective, destroying the Court is his only hope of survival (and that of the Forest, though he's probably done as much damage to it as the Court could have done). The real challenge is two massive entities utterly opposed to each other, each convinced that its well-being can only be achieved by destroying the other, neither willing to back down, and both ready to trample on everyone else to achieve their goals.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 23, 2022 13:51:26 GMT
I really, really hope Annie does not intend to go through with Coyote's plan and instead follows her own agency.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 23, 2022 14:10:58 GMT
— "Hello daughter, what is this sword-like contraption?"
— "DAD, N-"
— "Oh, it seems I have lost my hand. Again."
— horrified
— "Do not worry. This is not my (real) blood."
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 23, 2022 14:23:47 GMT
— "Hello daughter, what is this sword-like contraption?" — "DAD, N-" — "Oh, it seems I have lost my hand. Again." — horrified— "Do not worry. This is not my (real) blood." — "Well this has gotten out of hand." |
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Post by speedwell on Nov 23, 2022 14:28:23 GMT
I really, really hope Annie does not intend to go through with Coyote's plan and instead follows her own agency. I agreed with you initially and I still kind of hope she can stand up to him without severe consequences. I just don't think there's a snowball's chance that she will be in a position to defy or cross him, and less chance she will manage to avoid really bad stuff happening if she does. |
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 23, 2022 16:01:03 GMT
— "Hello daughter, what is this sword-like contraption?" — "DAD, N-" — "Oh, it seems I have lost my hand. Again." — horrified— "Do not worry. This is not my (real) blood." |
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 23, 2022 16:13:08 GMT
We leave Jerrek and Lana for now and go somewhere else, presumably the Carver home. Annie is holding Coyote's tooth/dagger.
Annie asks a question very similar to Lana's – could they reason with Loup? Renard is skeptical of this possibility considering Loup's actions, especially his most recent ones – as far as they know, the last thing Loup did was destroy Renard's body in a fit of pique. Annie reluctantly agrees. The blade continues to echo faintly with Coyote's laughter.
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 23, 2022 17:20:08 GMT
Wacky lack of communication goes on. She is supposed to be the Medium, however. I'm not sure 'reason' is how Loup is feeling his way through this. “Feeling his way through this” suggests deliberation and caution. What he does is more like blindly stumbling and flailing. |
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Post by drmemory on Nov 23, 2022 19:19:53 GMT
This page is a companion to the previous page. Both are considering talking, and dismissing it. Loup and Lana are thinking maybe it would be best to drop the plan and just live. Annie fears that things have gone too far, and is pondering the task Coyote left her. However, she knows nothing about the love connection - he might actually be willing to cut that shit out and apologize! Maybe. Annie is very kind and forgiving, and a medium as well. I bet if Jerrek talks to her and reveals himself they can work something out. Unfortunately, Coyote almost certainly knew about current events... and so they may well work out the rest of what Loup is meant to learn, and agree that he must die.
I still don't know the rest of the plan, but I will point out that there are a couple of major plot points unresolved - Zimmy and what she feels like she needs to do, Robot and his ultimate goal, the court and their lust for a major source of ether power, Omega and his sketchy goals, and the whole "new planet" scam. 
Maybe Loup needs to entrap the court and die at the right time and in the right way to derail their plans. I think Annie will be a lot more likely to stab him if it's for a good cause and he asks her to do it!
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 23, 2022 22:53:14 GMT
Annie is very kind and forgiving, and a medium as well. I bet if Jerrek talks to her and reveals himself they can work something out. Unfortunately, Coyote almost certainly knew about current events... and so they may well work out the rest of what Loup is meant to learn, and agree that he must die. Annie: "Wow, Loup, it sounds as if you've really changed and found love. What if that was Coyote's plan for you all along? What an excellent plan!" Loup: "Yes, I agree, that's a most excellent – DAMMIT" |
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Post by bedinsis on Nov 23, 2022 23:00:28 GMT
This chapter is starting to remind me of the chapter "Behind it all". That was also a montage chapter with check-ins of the various characters at the start of a book.
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Post by Ophel on Nov 24, 2022 9:19:47 GMT
This page is a companion to the previous page. Both are considering talking, and dismissing it. Loup and Lana are thinking maybe it would be best to drop the plan and just live. Annie fears that things have gone too far, and is pondering the task Coyote left her. However, she knows nothing about the love connection - he might actually be willing to cut that shit out and apologize! Maybe. Annie is very kind and forgiving, and a medium as well. I bet if Jerrek talks to her and reveals himself they can work something out. Unfortunately, Coyote almost certainly knew about current events... and so they may well work out the rest of what Loup is meant to learn, and agree that he must die. I still don't know the rest of the plan, but I will point out that there are a couple of major plot points unresolved - Zimmy and what she feels like she needs to do, Robot and his ultimate goal, the court and their lust for a major source of ether power, Omega and his sketchy goals, and the whole "new planet" scam. Maybe Loup needs to entrap the court and die at the right time and in the right way to derail their plans. I think Annie will be a lot more likely to stab him if it's for a good cause and he asks her to do it!
This makes me think that Loup dying is important to stop what greater horrors Zimmy has in stored for action should the court get out Zimmy's line. Also, I don't think Annie knows that Loup is Jerrek. If Jerrek wants to te with Lana for all times, it would be possible to just drop off the radar, as long as events don't conspire to have Loup killed. Also, this definitely hints to a Loup redemption arc. Throup the POWER of LOVE! Like, sincerely loving Lana and not wanting whatever calamity to happen and hence, self-sacrifice. |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 24, 2022 12:00:13 GMT
Unfortunately, Coyote almost certainly knew about current events... and so they may well work out the rest of what Loup is meant to learn, and agree that he must die. Could he? NP did not exist when Coyote started it. A vaguely defined project was in motion, but even if Annie babbled about something so weird and irrelevant to him, that’s unlikely to be enough for a good prediction. Thus, Lana may make a great difference, if her being one of NP is major or possibly critical part of the current situation. She does not react on many things like any human who can feasibly be found in the Court would (or an elf, or one of the Foleys, or the old style robot). Loup also seems to recognize her as a sort of “kindred spirit”, or at very least was more fascinated with her than likely with creatures he knows at least superficially. Thus… That the overexcited moron-god will try to compensate for his failures with “more power” and go full “must collect them all”? Coyote predicted this. That he will try to spy on the Court while they run around doing their best impression of beheaded chicken? Coyote could predict this, too. Here the possibilities diverge. A. He at some point will end up infatuated with someone (other than Annie, that is)? Maybe, but this wasn’t how things went. Adding to this “…someone who would be actually cool with him as he is” is a stretch, though plausible if she falls for him head over heels. But Lana is more than even that, due to peculiar situation of NP. B. That he would not construct his false identity as unnoticeable as they get? Sure. And in all this excitement someone will fall head over heels for it? Maybe. But then, again, Lana’s nature most likely changed this situation, or at least broke the schedule thoroughly enough that it cannot develop as it would with any predictably present creature. What could veer into classic tragedy and/or belated regrets turned another way. |
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